Mission 15 is stupit

[surreptitious]

You start with less army than the enemy
have no way to create more
The enemy is behind a moat , with high ground and walls.

The whole mission is to what highlight that the game is bug ridden or broken ?
look you can break the AI ?

it is so jarringly bad it turned me off the whole game .
Im not going to stop playing very hard because the missions are broken ..
Delete it , better to lose content than to highlight the game is broken.,

[Sunday Driver]

It's doable but it is brutal. I'd certainly suggest playing it on easy if you're having trouble and then you can blunder through it without knowing the best cheese tactics to do it. It probably needs some work tbh but not sure if that's in the scope, but maybe they'll consider.

[Sunday Driver]

There are written and video guides on it that help A LOT i'd suggest you read or watch. YT and stronghold fan sites are the places to go as well as looking through the forum here.

[本]

Dude i did it on very hard mode, when i was a child... So this is doable for everyone !

Tips :
-right side = weakiest
-Archers and crossbow man can shoot further than usual ;)

[Sunday Driver]

I managed it when it came out originally too but even after beating it again I've got to admit it's a spike in the learning curve difficulty.

But OP it is 100% possible for you to beat this map on some difficulty for sure. Just look at guides and ask for advice here and you'll get it. You've got some good tips there just above too.

[本]

Its one of the hardest one, with the last ;)

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git gud, one can win

[Rumcajs]

check YT channel Lutel, he did whole campaign on very hard. He also did whole campaign with archers only (on very hard) and this was the only mission he was not able to do with archers only due to time limit. You can also check Speedrun strategy for this mission for hints and guide. And this is hardest mission in Stronghold1.

[mou]

Originally posted by 本:

Dude i did it on very hard mode, when i was a child... So this is doable for everyone !

Tips :
-Archers and crossbow man can shoot further than usual ;)

Without this glitch/bug this mission is impossible to pass, the same goes for mission 18. It should be balanced on a very hard, it's so annoying that we still have the exact same mission from the previous version.

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by mou:

Originally posted by 本:

Dude i did it on very hard mode, when i was a child... So this is doable for everyone !

Tips :
-Archers and crossbow man can shoot further than usual ;)

Without this glitch/bug this mission is impossible to pass, the same goes for mission 18. It should be balanced on a very hard, it's so annoying that we still have the exact same mission from the previous version.

I did manage this mission without that glitch on easy! I wish also I could remember how exactly I did it back in the day on disc. I suspect that I bum rushed it several times and somehow did it.

[mou]

I managed to pass this mission without bugs on normal.

[jeegurda]

Yeah mission 15 is kinda infamous for its bs, glad to see they actually preserved it (not).
Its doable either with cheesing or save scumming, there's absolutely no chance you gonna first try it the "normal" way.

The game is full of broken or at the very least unbalanced stuff, so there're always a lot of mechanics that you can exploit, so i guess it's kinda intended.

[Zizo]

Originally posted by jeegurda:

Yeah mission 15 is kinda infamous for its bs, glad to see they actually preserved it (not).
Its doable either with cheesing or save scumming, there's absolutely no chance you gonna first try it the "normal" way.

The game is full of broken or at the very least unbalanced stuff, so there're always a lot of mechanics that you can exploit, so i guess it's kinda intended.

"The game is full of broken or at the very least unbalanced stuff" well this is game which is 22 years old:)
In that time, almost no one cares about something like balanced/unbalanced stuff:)
And this is still the same game from 2001 with mechanics from that year. It only changed by graphics and some details:) They did not change anything in this way, because it is not remake, but remaster. :)

[jeegurda]

Yeah i'm not saying that's bad, i love the game - just trying to justify that good old 2000-ish ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
I think balancing stronghold and fixing all the exploits would take an unreasonable time for a small studio, but THAT mission could be an exception, because it notably sucks ass

[mou]

I don't recommend debating with Zizo. He will defend every aspect of the game and say that it has always been a Stronghold and nothing should change.

[Judeo-communism]

Originally posted by Zizo:

Originally posted by jeegurda:

Yeah mission 15 is kinda infamous for its bs, glad to see they actually preserved it (not).
Its doable either with cheesing or save scumming, there's absolutely no chance you gonna first try it the "normal" way.

The game is full of broken or at the very least unbalanced stuff, so there're always a lot of mechanics that you can exploit, so i guess it's kinda intended.

"The game is full of broken or at the very least unbalanced stuff" well this is game which is 22 years old:)
In that time, almost no one cares about something like balanced/unbalanced stuff:)
And this is still the same game from 2001 with mechanics from that year. It only changed by graphics and some details:) They did not change anything in this way, because it is not remake, but remaster. :)

^ This

Though now I hope Firefly shareholders have learned we're willing to spend money on remakes of older games that fixes these problems, not just reskins with the exact same problems as the original