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Jyggalag Jul 14, 2023 @ 4:19am

Why do you call it a "CastleSim" ?

I mean, I understand that's a marketing ploy to try to get dumb enough customers to believe you. But after more than 20 years of lying, that's enough, isn't it ?

I mean, your series of (bad) Age of Empire clones is not a CastleSim series.

It's just a series of STR on tiny maps without workers with automatic construction with production lines similar to ANNO. That's just it ! (By the way, mercenaries are more interesting to do than normal soldiers).
That's all. Nothing more. If simpletons think that the "satisfaction" of the population explains the "CastleSim" label, no, it's just another resource to manage by spamming buildings.

So I don't mind you selling it as a normal STR, but talking about it as a CastleSim ... OH ... you've improved the AI ?

Also, you really should make a modern UI rather than keeping the original. it was painful at the time to navigate in it, so in 2023...

Last edited by Jyggalag; Jul 14, 2023 @ 4:25am

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BroBert Jul 14, 2023 @ 4:28am

How dare the developers not ask you about what you mind and dont mind before releasing the game.

The_Pastmaster Jul 14, 2023 @ 4:28am

You play as a lord building a castle and it simulates castle life. So yes, it's a castle sim. What more would you like in it to make it, I guess, more of a castle sim? o_O?

I feel like comparing Stronghold to Age of Empire is a bit unfair though. Stronghold is about individual castles. Age of Empires is about conquering nations.

Himitsu

Jul 14, 2023 @ 4:33am

Non, non non... mon dieu!

Julius

Jul 14, 2023 @ 6:07am

I think you misunderstood the game

Maximus

Jul 14, 2023 @ 6:09am

The game is 20 years old. That’s how the game was advertised back then and rightly so. You obviously can make the case that gaming has progressed and that it is not appropriate anymore to do so but who honestly cares? So Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader are bad AOE clones and their UI is bad? Please refrain from making laughable and embarrassing comments in the future. Thank you.

Last edited by Maximus; Jul 14, 2023 @ 6:12am

Tadek_Imperator has Stronghold: Definitive Edition

Jul 14, 2023 @ 6:09am

Just troll probably

Jyggalag Jul 14, 2023 @ 6:30am

Originally posted by The_Pastmaster:
You play as a lord building a castle and it simulates castle life. So yes, it's a castle sim. What more would you like in it to make it, I guess, more of a castle sim? o_O?

I feel like comparing Stronghold to Age of Empire is a bit unfair though. Stronghold is about individual castles. Age of Empires is about conquering nations.

Thank you decerebrate Femboys for your answers.

To which I will quickly reply:

- "Sim" implies, as the name suggests, simulation and therefore management. There's no management in this game other than basic resource management for any RTS. Castle simulation implies that the game is a seigniory simulator with all that this implies...territory management, family management, nobles management and estate construction ETC...here it's just an RTS focused on the castle more than on the map...but that doesn't change the fact that it's still an RTS man. Rimworld , Dwarf Fortress ETC... are more CastleSim than your RTS dude.
The comparison with Age of Empire is obvious, as it's the same approach and, above all, the same kind of game: medieval RTS, accumulating the same resources in the same way, except that the builders are automated.
Don't pretend you don't understand that.

Originally posted by Julius:
I think you misunderstood the game

I think you're not admitting reality, he's just an STR guy, plain and simple.
It doesn't change the fact that you can love him, but he's just an ordinary str.

Originally posted by Arminius:
The game is 20 years old. That’s how the game was advertised back then and rightly so. You obviously can make the case that gaming has progressed and that it is not appropriate anymore to do so but who honestly cares? So Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader are bad AOE clones and their UI is bad? Please refrain from making laughable and embarrassing comments in the future. Thank you.

And as I said in my post so read again before blaming me for your ... argument...
It would be good if a deffinitive edition that improves the graphics also improves the interface to make it more accessible to new players. That's the point of a "definitive" edition, isn't it?

But no problem, I just posted this for the LULZ (troll as femboy says above), it will prevent you from STILL being fooled.
After all, they need money to live.