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I cant stand these Blue Protocol people coming to Throne and Liberty discussions complaining and comparing.
Blue Protocol died on its own.
Not even their own japanese people care.
Its like that Elyon game that died super fast.
Meanwhile, Throne and Liberty is alive and kicking.
Its will have dynamic combat with movement while basic attacks and it will have faster early game progression for the Western audience. They said they cant reveal dates yet, as it is for Amazon to officially announce when the global beta test will be. (We know its within 52 days, untill end of September). THEN, they also said they will try to synchronize the global release of Throne and Liberty within this year. So high likelly of having November/December global worldwide release.
And then, in the discussion of those news, we got like 50% of the people crying and whinning over Blue Protocol. LOL, then I went to check and its garbage, thrash, stinking, rotten and they keep entitling themselves as if both games were comparable in any way.
You know who you people are. Your target audience is done for. God will not allow your sickness to become "culture".
edit: also why is twitch empty? well is normal, no western protocol and no western whale to invest, if there is no games amazon will have no one to give money to positively rate a censored game, people now day do anything for money even lie and say the game is cool when is not.
edit2: also, if western people stream BP on twitch a JP game and i say (JP) they are promoting that version of the game and not the woke amazon agenda version.
Look at TOTTO saying she/he is right, it's different a timezone in Japanese. At morning to afternoon this game will be active player more.
Then please go to Amazon and tell them to stop censoring the game, they themself said that the games release will take a lot of time, because of all the stuff they have to censore.
Aparently for the game to be approved in the west, even though it's just again to enforce their political agenda.
i can confirm this because in afternoon in my country all in JP are sleeping being that there is a difference of 7 hours from me and them, and the queues for dungeons are completely dead in that time.
but lucly there is always some neet who play hard 24/24
And yet we're living in the age of "Drag Queen Story Time", "AJ and The Queen" and "Netflix's Cuties" being forced into culture as "harmless" and "misunderstood", all of which involves REAL children, and yet you're more concerned about pixels on a screen.
Well you better subscribe to a new god soon, because the one you're subscribed to now isn't doing its job.
That being said: You are right that the game is apparently dying off quickly in Japan, which isn't a good sign. Basically, the devs said: "AGS can't ruin our game if we ruin it first."
"Meanwhile, Throne and Liberty is alive and kicking."
You mean the game that received so much negative press and commentary that the release date was yanked and now no one has any real idea when this game is supposed to release because the developers went into a panic at just how badly beta footage was received?
You are free to huff all the copium you want, T&L is probably DOA as far as global goes.
"A condition for success is to release simultaneously worldwide"
This is anecdotal nonsense you literally pulled from between your cheeks. Lost Ark did not have simultaneous global launch. A lot of games don't.
If you're this upset by a game you never had any intention of playing, I guess you'll be frothing at the mouth when it happens to T&L.
P.S. You know there is an edit button right? You didn't need to respond to your own thread twice before anyone else did.
For Japan standards of size per age, their smaller girls are normal for their smaller men. Its all good, no sickness. Its related to human body size standards, biology, psychology, etc.
Then, what is the problem?
The problem is that the starndards of size per age on the West are different. How so? You ask.
Well, it is a known fact (not an oppinion) that the average standards of size per age for men and women are higher. The people on the West are taller, bigger, fatter, etc for the same age.
Nothing wrong with that also.
The problem is when you transplant one standard that was small and that was ok in Japan to the West.
Then the average western people will look and say: "oh, this is subreptitious pedophilia disguised, because these girls portrayed in this video game (the ones censored by Amazon, WHICH IS CORRECT IN DOING SO), here in our land, according to our average height/weight per age, are equivalent to our 8-9 year old girls. (even if it was equivalent to 12, or 14 years old, it doesnt matter, because the laws on the West [and I am a lawyer in "real life"] forbid "these things" (borderline sexualization, themes, feel, circunstances, etc, depending on interpretation of each judge, all for the purpose of PROTECTING THE CHILDREN, these things are written on the Laws of the West for a reason) for these age groups, depending on country).
So when you take the imagery/concept/fantasy of small lollies from Japan and bring to the west, which has different demographic measurements it then becomes unacceptable socially, culturally, psychologically, etc. There is a clash. A conflict. There is strife. Its a problem. And then it stinks and people point the finger and the thing is taken down, censored, etc.
So I am only explaining this to you on the basis of human biology, in specific to the size, height, weight of humans of different places, from different races, not in accordance to the exceptions that may exist, but in accordance to the overallwhelming majority of the people's standards.
Your question was captious
"cap·tious
adjectiveFORMAL
(of a person) tending to find fault or raise petty objections."
But your question was proper/appropriate and suitable/profitable to be answered to my point of view thread, as its my understanding that people need to understand that the problem is on size per age being different from Japan and the West.
The offense, sickness, rebellion, is to try to spearhead a cultural breach in the West, by attempting to bypass the regulations (Laws that protect children) by stating that "the characters depicted in the game are actually not children", which is obvious to any observer in the West that they are children, and it doesnt need one to have an evil eye, to perceive that the marketting is sexualizing the children as part of the appeal to sell the product.
Really, its easy to justify the censorship and its easy to be a childrens rights advocate and prosecute Amazon if they were not to censorship this. So Amazon is actually smart and prudent in doing this, to protect themselves and look good to the public as a "shepperd" that protects the "children".
The only reason why we are discussing this, is because anonymous sick people feel free to backbite as wolves on the steam discussion forums, which are currently under the moderation of Amazon in this hub for this game. I supposed if the Japanese developers of this game were moderating these discussion hub, the flow of the discussion would have been different.
But as I said on the OPening message of this thread, its a non issue, because the popularity of the game, by the choice to release first on Japan, or by the actual game's own qualities and whatever is currently related to the equation of success and failure in this video game field: "what is in it for us if I play this game?" (can I make money out of it, do I get views, do I get popular, do I make content, do they pay me to play it, do I fulfill my desire of economic independence through this specific entertainment product/service, does it feed me in any way, etc?) [this is how you design a game to be a winner] and "what is the opportunity cost of playing and streaming and redditing and youtubing about it, etc?" (when there are other games that function as better plataforms, jobs, social clubs, whatever learning or entertainment purposes/opportunities). In other words, Im countering the dozens of people that are blind and dumb and wrong in discussing the case of censorship in this game (which I think its correct to do) and trying to criticize Amazon ( I stand by Amazon ) which has no fault at all in this and its actually, along Steam the best bridge between the West and the East in entertainment.
So dont be a terrorist and try to destroy our bridge, for by Steam and Amazon we shall eat good games comming from the East in the future. Thats why I intervene.
Who wants to duel me?
edit: also pro censorhip
edit2: i read your little poeme of nonsense, amazon protecting kids? yes go to say it to the Lost ark community. (pegi 18 censored for kids)
I am bored so why not.
While you mention biology, you have to also account for each persons genes.
My friend circle is made up primarly of women, most fall under the below average spectrum, one of them is even below 140, barely getting close to my chest, when she is on her toes.
This is a to complexe of a point.
Thats not a problem, unless you make it a problem.
As it was said countless times, small people exist.
Even if a lot of the woke crowd doesn't want them to exist.
Correct, that is on average the fact.
That is not a problem for anyone who wouldn't make it a problem.
So basically turning a personal opinion into a problem.
What the censorship in Blue Protocol is.
You know I wish myself the old times of the PAL versions back.
Because then you americans would get your censored version of the game, while we normal and sane people in the EU would get something close or identical to the JP Version.
Sadly these times are over.
I never in my entire life have seen someone look at small characters in any game and thought "damn children getting sexualised!"
On the contray, most localisation for anime and games here in germany are almost perfect to the JP originals.
How so? Because video games are art and art is to be treated with respect and to be taken care off.
We have here also our own rating system, the USK.
Senran Kaguran isn't censored here, it is just rated 18+.
The only thing that actively gets changed here is the swastika, as it is against the law to use it outside of art and historical purposes.
So how does it come that Germany a modern EU country is ok with this stuff, while the US of A isn't?
Simple, ever since the Cold War, the US has implemented heavy censoreship policies into their media. Everything gets reviewed and changes to fit american narratives.
This has been done since the 50s and has become increasingly aggresive over the past decades.
Anime has always been heavly censored in america, while in the EU it either got the censored versions from america, or by now, runs it's own localisations and stays faithful and true to the original.
Things get rated and then they either get televised at approriate times (like shows, Animes featuring nudity and sexual tones often get aired after 10pm here, while stuff like Naruto would run over the course of the day, on the other hand One Piece mostly airs between 5-9pm.), same with games. Things get rated and then are up.
Because this might now shock you!
It is the duty of parents to make sure that children don't see/play something inappropriate for their age!
If your own child plays GTA now and constantly acts like he shots people with a gun, then you as a parent are to blame, not the 18+ rated game!
But I go away from the original point.
Fact is, it is not up to companies to "protect children" it is up to parents.
Furthermore, since you are so pro censoreship, what make sense since you seem to come from a country that highly encourages censorehip, so probably america.
Let me tell you some other nations that were or are very pro censoreship!
The Third Reich, China, north Korea, the Soviet Union,modern day Russia, America of course.
Basically every country that is either a dictatorship or thinks it has always the moral high ground.
It's a problem if you make it one.
Blue Protocol was specifically aimed at anime fans.
People who do know the difference between a bunch of pixels and polygons and a real human being.
Something pro-censoreship people and Amazon apparently are not able to differenciate.
Getting outside and interacting with the world is helpful.
I might have to repeat that there are no problems with this, where I live.
We have uncensored Highschool DxD here to buy in store, free on display.
It is rated 18+, but it is there.
There is also more the opposite happening.
Normal and sane people are getting extremely tired of small vocal minorities trying to enforce their views and ideals on everyone and everything.
Censoreship and pro Woke Agendas are killing western media since a decade now, big franchsies like Star Wars are dead or dying. Disney produces one flop after the other.
Shows and Games completely fail, as they make their medias for people who did not care and never had interest in their products to begin with.
But as we know, western companies are more afraid that some freaks on Twitter get angry.
Imagine giving your fans what they want and make a good product again.
Instead you get a woke infested medium, that pisses your entire fanbase off and have everyone point their pitch forks and torches at you, while the handfull of people you wanted to catter the game towards to are nowhere to be seen.
Who are these people?
Where are their standards?
Do you have numbers that say how many people are pro censoreship?
Do you have scientifical profe that normal people see a bunch of polygons and pixels on a screen as sexualising children?
Do you have proof that small people do not exist outside of japan or that they do not want to represented in games?
Heck my GF was playing Tera precisely because she could play as a small woman with big breasts.
Where is your proof?
Where are your numbers?
Show them.
[/quote]Your question was captious
"cap·tious
adjectiveFORMAL
(of a person) tending to find fault or raise petty objections."[/quote]
It's pretty petty to pretend to have the moral high ground, while treating other peoples property like garbage.
Not paying attention to the fanbase that wants the product and instead try to enforce your twisted views on others by force.
Ha, just like the Third Reich did.
There is no problem.
Unless you make it up.
What wouldn't be a real problem.
I wish the West would by default only mean america, I am getting kinda sick to be associated with these sick individuals who act like brown shirts, while thinking they have the moral high ground.
As usual no one has paid attention in history class and is now repeating the pasts mistakes.
Japans cultural breach into the west has already happend.
look at it.
Americas comic industry is basically dead, overrun and burried under Mangas.
Americas Movie industry is basically dead, their shows are getting burried under Animes and good japanese and south korean films.
Heck EU Media is doing better than Americas, and they mostly just rehash the same 5 ideas. But it's ideas people like.
Now look at it, as you continue to kill your own industrys, while Eastern Media thrives and keeps beating you down with 0 effort.
One failed and dying franchise after the other, one failure after the other.
Ahem.
As previously said, a normal and rational thinking person.
Wouldn't see a child in a small character.
Neither are the actual children in Blue Protocol in any form sexualisied.
Oh no they wear skirts!
Thats what young girls tend to do, and teenager and adults.
And Men sometimes. I have a real scottish kilt myself.
As said previously, these things are made up, they only exist because some, not so sane people, see it in them.
What is ironic, because usual people with pedophile tendencies are the ones who will first try and claim that this is a problem.
Amazon is very smart.
Doing what every woke company does and setting themself up for another failure.
How many millions do they waste on something that will be burried on Steam, will fail in the west and will cost the company again millions in loses and loses on the stock market.
The censoreship is getting justified on superfisial reasons.
Problems that are made up and don't exist.
No sane childrens right activist will go after a bunch of pixels and polygons without getting laughed at in court.
There have been dozens of cases where it was attempted and the judges inside the court, slammed the protestants.
Funny enough someone tried this here in germany too, the judge laughed for 5 minutes, before he put all the costs for the case on her and asked her gently to never again waste his time.
If amazone misshandels moderation on the steam forums, they can be held accountable by steam if they get reported.
Every Moderator is to abide by Steams Moderation Rules.
If they overstep their boundarys or start to actively censore boards, they can be sue'd trial'd and the worst case the game can be taken from steam entirely.
There is a reason why Review Bombing and keeping these topics on Steam Forums active at all times is such a effective way to force changes or ruin the games reputation forever.
People have a right to have their voices be heard.
I know this is shocking to someone from America, but free Speach isn't a hatecrime in good old europe.
Furthermore, the only people backbiting here are people who were exited to play an anime MMORPG specificaly aimed at anime fans.
Because now they get a censored and woke-ised game from a company knowing to produce nothing but failures.
Lost Ark was the same. 18+ rated game, Amazone censured it heavly.
Because for some reason Americans are offended by good looking fictional women.
Only the women tho, the men still looked like Mr.Olympic with 10 packs on their bodys and arms as big as cars.
But thats just the usual double standard.
It is an issue.
if you do not understand let me tell you something.
The game isn't even out in the west and it's entire (or at least the vocal part) potential playerbase is already camping the release to review bomb the game on the day of release.
Amazon has done nothing if not set this game up to be another failure.
Next, all the potential content creators for this game, who might be interested will see the ♥♥♥♥ storm the release day will be and jump off a cliff.
And if not, then they already make content and play on JP.
Hell, Asmongold already asked who allows these morons at Amazon to make these decisions!
To quote him: "Do they not realise that they do nothing but set themselfs up for failure?"
Potential paid shills will be snuffed out and be ignored.
If you try to get popular trough this game, you already set yourself up to fail.
Lastly standing by Amazon has historically been, a bad idea.
Case in Point 1: New World
Case in Point 2: Lost Ark
By the way Amazons CEO has started investigations as of why it's Game Studio (and the other studios who made Rings of Power) have made nothing but failures and negative numbers for the company. As well as investigating where all the money goes.
Amazon doesn't want to build a bridge.
it wants to build a wall and a small entrace to dictate what will be let in and what not.
Steam is a plattform for people who enjoy games first and foremost, the CEO Lord Gaben, is an avid gamer.
He even plays a Japanese game with small player characters, called FF14.
There is something called respect, Amazon doesn't have it, Steam does.