How to make the game more competitive

[PaaJee]

Just wanted to drop some quick feedback. The game could be super competitive, super addictive, and honestly, I’m already missing it like crazy! Playing the beta was amazing, can’t wait to get back in.

1.Tactical pause in ranked matches
Would be awesome to have a tactical pause option. Either when someone disconnects or when the team votes for a quick break, something like 40 seconds would be perfect to sort things out.

2.Stamina drain on skill moves
Moves like rainbow flicks and sombreros, if you pull off 3 in a row, should burn 100% of your stamina.
Control moves like la croqueta and the 360 spin forward could drain all stamina after 4 in a row. Would make dribbling feel way more balanced and strategic.

3.Sliding tackle distance
Feels like sliding tackles could use a tweak, normal running tackles could be a bit shorter, and tackles with boost could go a bit further. Would make tackles feel more skill-based and fair.

4.Pass power accuracy
The pass power could definitely be a bit more accurate. Sometimes passes feel way too strong or too weak compared to how long you actually hold the button. Making it a bit tighter would help a lot with the flow of the game.

5.Fake shot (RT + A on Xbox controller)
Would be great to see a proper fake shot mechanic using RT(shot) + A(push the ball) on Xbox. Could be a solid way to add mind games and make attacking feel more dynamic. drain stamina of course

6.Lower the price
Please consider making the game more affordable, especially for players in regions like South America. A slightly lower price could help bring a much bigger player base and keep the community active and growing from the start.

7.Points system
increase the points rewarded for passes and assists, and maybe even add a small penalty when a player loses the ball. That would really encourage more team play and discourage players from overdribbling or trying to go solo every time. It’d help create a better flow and reward smarter decisions on the field.

8.Pick the position
It would be great to have a nametag or role select system before matches, where players can pick the position they want to play, like striker, defender, midfielder, etc. Even if it’s just symbolic, it helps the team organize and reduces chaos during kickoff. It’s a simple feature that can really improve the experience, especially in solo queue.

Devs, for real, I’m missing the game a lot already! Fingers crossed for May 1st hope it gets that beta approval key. If not, I’m gonna lose my mind waiting!
Big thanks for all the hard work. The game’s looking awesome!

[oldagetron]

Alot of your issue's mate are new player issue's. Most of your points are you not knowing the game mechanics properly. Jump over to the web site and read the game mechanics it will help you out alot.

[PaaJee]

Originally posted by oldagetron:

Alot of your issue's mate are new player issue's. Most of your points are you not knowing the game mechanics properly. Jump over to the web site and read the game mechanics it will help you out alot.

"new player issues" like... asking for a tactical pause that literally doesn’t exist in ranked matches? Wild of me to expect a basic QoL feature that’s standard in most competitive games, right?
And yeah, players spamming five skill moves in a row with zero stamina penalty — definitely just me not “understanding the mechanics properly.” Must’ve missed the part on the website where it says “go ahead and break the game balance, no downside!”
Also love how “new players” from Europe are out here complaining about the price too. Who knew the answer to all feedback was just "read the site, bro."

[Velvet]

Sliding tackle need a HEAVY NERF

[oldagetron]

Originally posted by PaaJee_PaPaI NoWeLL:

Originally posted by oldagetron:

Alot of your issue's mate are new player issue's. Most of your points are you not knowing the game mechanics properly. Jump over to the web site and read the game mechanics it will help you out alot.

"new player issues" like... asking for a tactical pause that literally doesn’t exist in ranked matches? Wild of me to expect a basic QoL feature that’s standard in most competitive games, right?
And yeah, players spamming five skill moves in a row with zero stamina penalty — definitely just me not “understanding the mechanics properly.” Must’ve missed the part on the website where it says “go ahead and break the game balance, no downside!”
Also love how “new players” from Europe are out here complaining about the price too. Who knew the answer to all feedback was just "read the site, bro." [/quote

Originally posted by PaaJee_PaPaI NoWeLL:

Originally posted by oldagetron:

Alot of your issue's mate are new player issue's. Most of your points are you not knowing the game mechanics properly. Jump over to the web site and read the game mechanics it will help you out alot.

"new player issues" like... asking for a tactical pause that literally doesn’t exist in ranked matches? Wild of me to expect a basic QoL feature that’s standard in most competitive games, right?
And yeah, players spamming five skill moves in a row with zero stamina penalty — definitely just me not “understanding the mechanics properly.” Must’ve missed the part on the website where it says “go ahead and break the game balance, no downside!”
Also love how “new players” from Europe are out here complaining about the price too. Who knew the answer to all feedback was just "read the site, bro."

It actually is the answer.

[PaaJee]

Originally posted by oldagetron:

Originally posted by PaaJee_PaPaI NoWeLL:

It actually is the answer.

ok king Pele of Rematch, now sit over there in the corner

[Octopuses]

Originally posted by Velvet:

Sliding tackle need a HEAVY NERF

No, it's way too easy to avoid. Skill issue in your case, I'm sorry.

[Synepho]

I love how instead of having a civilized conversation about the author's point of view, you attack each other over who is the best player in the game. You only played for a couple of days, chill! As far as the suggestions go,
-I think they already meantioned a sliding tackle nerf.
-pause in game i don't really like. I get its usefulness but honestly, waiting 40 seconds because a troll team refuses to lose is more frustating than playing with a man down. If the servers are good I don't mind losing 1 game every month because someone dc'ed.
-I thought about shot faints as well, I like the idea but I feel they are going to be a little too over powered, you already have tools to play mindgames with the defenders, maybe it will be a bit too much?? Don't really know
-prince is different for everyone, i don't know your economic situation, but personally i would rather pay 30-40 bucks to support a developer which deservers it than paying EA 70 for a broken football game. I could see free to play with supporter packs(cosmetic only) working, but i'd rather pay something upfront.

[PaaJee]

Originally posted by Synepho:

Thanks for the comment! I agree with most of what you said. But I do think a tactical pause could be a great addition down the line, especially for competitive modes. Just a short pause for the team to quickly adjust strategy could add depth without slowing things down too much.
About the price, I’m 100% with you. I’ve played FIFA for years, and I’m honestly done paying insane prices every year for what feels like the same game. I’ve seen a lot of other threads with people saying they simply won’t be able to buy this, and that could really hurt the player base, especially in regions where games are already super expensive.
That said, I also don’t think going f2p is the answer. There’s always the risk of monetization getting out of hand, like pay-to-win stuff or special characters with boosted abilities, and I’d hate to see the game head in that direction.

[Rolled]

nah a pause feature would ruin the game. Many trolls out there would pause for 40 sec as u suggest to waste time. Also it will kill the flow of the match. In rocket league you dont get to pause so why should you here.

[Selvis]

2 and 3 are great ideas. 2 would encourage more teamplay and 3 reduce the slide tackle spam which made the game feel like a circus instead of a competitive skill based game.

[PaaJee]

Originally posted by Rolled:

nah a pause feature would ruin the game. Many trolls out there would pause for 40 sec as u suggest to waste time. Also it will kill the flow of the match. In rocket league you dont get to pause so why should you here.

The idea is the pause would only happen if the whole team votes yes so no solo troll pauses. Just one short break if everyone on the team agrees. Keeps it fair and avoids abuse.

[Neonbu]

The only thing rainbow flick needs in terms of nerf is not being able to slide tackle instantly if an opponent takes the ball mid air with a good distance defense or the defense being invulnerable to sliding tackles when receiving the air ball. Idk if it was just me playing on 80 - 120 ping but way too many times I was able to take control of the ball mid air when defending a rainbow flick just to be slide tacked instantly and loose the ball + being stunned.

[Bula_Ldz]

The authors of the project must answer the question. Do they want to create an arcade game or more of a football simulation?

I definitely support the second option. If so, what should they do:

1. Limit/shorten the number of animations to give players as much control as possible at every moment of the game on the pitch. This is the key issue.

2. Definitely WEAKEN dribbling. This is not what matches are about, dribbling is rare.

3. Work on passing, especially on its accuracy.

4. Limit graphic details to keep the ping for players as low as possible.

5. Introduce teams and implement a team game ranking. Teams must have their own chat so that the team integrates. The stronger the opponent you play with, the more points you can earn. The weaker the opponent, the more you have to lose in case of defeat. 6. Do something with the camera! I dream of an isometric view with a locked camera, because right now it moves so sideways that you can get lost.

As for the author's post. Tactical pause - no. People want to play, not wait. Believe me, I played an almost perfect MMO soccer game and those pauses were the biggest problem.

Depleting stamina while dribbling - great idea.

Slide modifications - it will be even harder to intercept the ball, and this is already too difficult. If dribbling is more balanced, then ok.
As for passing - I agree.
Fake shot - makes it harder for defenders to play, and due to broken dribbling, the changes should go the other way.
Points - ok, but points should be awarded for wins and losses, not for successful reception, pass or dribbling. Because the style of play is not important. What matters is winning the match... This should be rewarded.
Position selection - the basic thing, I'm for it.