Quartz and Arts?

[HolyThursdayBot]

So it seems like the xiphas things (basically master quartz?) and plugins determine what arts I can use. The elemental quartz I equip don't seem to add arts. Even though the game does list them as having an elemental value that increases with more powerful quartz (for instance, cast 2 adds more of some kind of time value than cast 1), I can't figure out what exactly that does.

And speaking of arts, are they kinda weak in this game? It seems like it. I only have Van and Agnes right now, but even Agnes's relatively high EP arts like the space art that attacks in a line only does a some hundreds of damage to space weak enemies. But I know it's early. FYI I'm only playing on normal right now (please don't mock me for being soft) so maybe arts are more useful on higher difficulties.

[Ogami]

Yes, arts are pretty weak in Daybreak. Apart from healing and aoe buffs i rarely used them.
Craft and S-Craft are king in combat. Especially since refilling CP is trivial with combat, accesories or food.

As for the Quartz, its split into the master quartz which just give you stuff like +30 attack, + 15% dodge and so on when leveling up.
The "arts driver" you put into the Xipha determines a set couple of arts that come with it.
Plus you can unlock up to 4 slots in each arts driver to put arts into you bought in stores.

[Silence]

Arts seem pretty good to me, doing a Nightmare run as my first playthrough and I feel they have been useful from the start of the game.. so I don't really know what's going on your end, probably make sure to upgrade your weapon and equip stuff with ATS, both quartz and accesories probably.

I do remember that even on Nightmare, early on my Agnes was just destroying stuff that was weak to the Arts I had on her (which was Water at the time).

[ZekeBel]

I disagree, Arts are better than Crafts for the most part (there are elements that get the short end of the stick). Although that's not to say Crafts are unuseable or anything.

Maybe that isn't the case during earlygame because you don't have many options to boost your ATS or lower casting speed or your EP pool is limited, but it picks up very fast. Not to mention Arts are the best way to increase your hit count (Aerial Dust, Cataract Wave, Obsidian Ray...) and between Arc Feather users and Obsidian Ray you can prevent enemies from even getting a turn.

[BeerGrills]

Ogami a écrit :

Yes, arts are pretty weak in Daybreak. Apart from healing and aoe buffs i rarely used them.
Craft and S-Craft are king in combat. Especially since refilling CP is trivial with combat, accesories or food.

As for the Quartz, its split into the master quartz which just give you stuff like +30 attack, + 15% dodge and so on when leveling up.
The "arts driver" you put into the Xipha determines a set couple of arts that come with it.
Plus you can unlock up to 4 slots in each arts driver to put arts into you bought in stores.

Bruh, Agnes destoys everything with arts on highest difficulty.

[MeldinX2]

Arts are very good in the game. If you use them properly. And i like the new system they made to the Quartz.

[小龙马]

In OP defense, in my run(just reach the first dungeon where only Van and Agnes team up together ), from what i see is that art indeed deal much less damage compared to Vans craft.

P/S : I am not saying art is weak though, is just that at my current progress, it seems weak to me.

[MeldinX2]

小龙马 a écrit :

In OP defense, in my run(just reach the first dungeon where only Van and Agnes team up together ), from what i see is that art indeed deal much less damage compared to Vans craft.

P/S : I am not saying art is weak though, is just that at my current progress, it seems weak to me.

Crafts espacially with characters like Van will usually do more damage than most arts. But CP is more limited. Arts will do high damage that is usually AOE and many of them can inflict status effects. And characters like Agnes with boost on can spam them again and again and again.