Sonic Dying?!! :(

[Price of Amber]

I can't believe people are saying Sonic is dying... I enjoyed Rise of Lyric. He is still alive in my eyes. Sonic 06 was also good. I don't see why people think his games suck

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

My top 5 Sonic games:
Sonic Spinball
Sonic 2
Sonic Adventure DX
Sonic Triple Trouble
Sonic Generations

My 5 Disappointments:
Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic 06
Sonic Advance
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood

Still yet to really dig into Sonic Lost World and Sonic Colours. I actually really like the gameplay of Sonic Lost World so far, very reminiscent of the bonus stages of Sonic 1, 2 & 3.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

funewchie eredeti hozzászólása:

NW is coming 4 u eredeti hozzászólása:

As far as Sega going Nintendo, I think it would be a wise decision, and Sonic would have a great home under Nintendo's glory. But tbh Capcom or buying Rare from Microsoft is another good choice too

Wait, what? Capcom? Are you suggesting that Capcom should have Sonic?

I mean, look at how they treat their own mascot. Besides, the last thing we need is 47 remakes of Sonic 2.
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I can just see that now "Coming soon: Super Mega Hyper Awesome Gorgeous Metallic Omega Sonic the Hedgehog II. Featuring the exact same game from 25 years ago, but with the game speed sped up by 0.02%. Isn't it awesome and totally brand new and fresh?! It's out for a reasonable $60. Or you can pay $120 for a complete version of the game.")

Or us being stuck with a hundred 8-bit remakes of Sonic games, since NES-era games are a lot cheaper to produce.

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Compared to that, even EA would be a slightly better choice than Capcom (and that's saying something).

Please goddddd no...

Crapcom has fallen way down lately. Living off dlc and remasters, the only fan service they really care for is their RE fanbase. Every other game fanbase of theirs, they've either deserted to rot or angered in some way. Just look at Megaman, Street Fighter, Dead Rising... I could go on but don't think I have to at this point.

Sega is doing great with Sonic. If people think Sonic is dying now, I'd hate to see Sonic in the hands of Crapcom. EA is bad but at least they have great in-house development and top-quality game engines under their belt.

I used to be s big Crapcom fan back in the day... MvC, PowerStone, Dino Crisis, ect but that was the Capcom of years ago, that's not Capcom today.

Edit: Nintendo acquiring Sonic would be just as painful for everyone to watch...

[LimitCrown]

Sonic Advance 1 and Sonic Advance 3 were very fun. Sonic Advance 2 wasn't as good in comparison.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

LimitCrown eredeti hozzászólása:

Sonic Advance 1 and Sonic Advance 3 were very fun. Sonic Advance 2 wasn't as good in comparison.

They were okay for handheld/mobile games but very poor when compared to the Sonic games that were released on Game Gear in the 90's, I don't expect Nintendo lovers to agree with me though because DS/3DS owners most likely missed out on the generation of where I am speaking from.

The Advance Sonic games just don't feel like true Sonic games to me.


Here are the best mobile Sonic games ever released...

Sonic Triple Trouble:
https://youtu.be/drcKKfWnYF8

Tails' Adventure:
https://youtu.be/9NaG-qRG1so

Sonic Chaos:
https://youtu.be/_5-lLhmKqug

[LimitCrown]

Tails Adventure's gameplay isn't like a regular Sonic game, and I haven't played any of the Game Gear games enough in order to determine how good they are.

[Price of Amber]

YutakaKobayakawa eredeti hozzászólása:

Dolphin Emulator , you can play pretty much any gamecube/nintendo wii game . and It has more fps too

Well emulators are likely to fail and advocate piracy. They are a decent if you find a good one

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

LimitCrown eredeti hozzászólása:

Tails Adventure's gameplay isn't like a regular Sonic game, and I haven't played any of the Game Gear games enough in order to determine how good they are.

Yeah, sorry about that. I'm old & it's been awhile :(

[Cheese@Toasty]

Loving the people that think sonic labrynth was good unironically.

[Price of Amber]

Just Your Ordinary Toast eredeti hozzászólása:

Loving the people that think sonic labrynth was good unironically.

I myself haven't played it but I heard it is pretty awful. Suprised to hear people praising it

[Cheese@Toasty]

Noodle Warrior eredeti hozzászólása:

Just Your Ordinary Toast eredeti hozzászólása:

Loving the people that think sonic labrynth was good unironically.

I myself haven't played it but I heard it is pretty awful. Suprised to hear people praising it

It is terribly awful, I had it on the sonic mega collection on my PS2 and it was dreadful.

[Makamio]

I haven't played the Sonic Boom series, but they are getting loads of mess for it. Come to think of it, many Sonic snobs have been bugging Sega/Sonic Team about EVERY game since 1998. Some of them think that the classic games are perfect (Which they aren't, by a LONGGG shot), and that the 3D games are trash. Screw you annoying fanboys. My favorite game is Sonic Unleashed (No, I'm not kidding) and I also played (and really liked) Adventure 2, Colors, Generations and all the classic games. There are problems in EVERY video game. Nothing is perfect, and the fanbase should know that. I'm just a normal fan who likes all the games in a way. I'm even willing to play Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog, cause I'm not a hater to the series. Who else is with me?

[Makamio]

DontBlink +_- UrDead eredeti hozzászólása:

Bluetomahawk222 eredeti hozzászólása:

He might as well die if Sega doesn't actually create a formula and identity that work and stick with it. "Gotta go fast," "Way past cool," "The blue dude with attitude" are catchphrases. They don't create an identity, let alone carry a brand.

As long as these games survive the dying brand, I'm Ok with it. They seem to be the only ones worth defending:

SOnic 1
2
3 and knuckles
Cd
Adventure
Adventure 2
Heroes
Unleashed (More for just how friggin good the animation is)
Advance 1-3
Rush
Adventure
Riders
Colors
Generations
Lost World U

The Advance games are horrible....

Seriously? You include the Advance games but don't include Game Gear games????

I liked the Advance games, especially Advance 2. But Sonic didn't exactly make famously on the Game Gear/Master System 8-bit games.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

The Kid of Yolo. eredeti hozzászólása:

DontBlink +_- UrDead eredeti hozzászólása:

The Advance games are horrible....

Seriously? You include the Advance games but don't include Game Gear games????

I liked the Advance games, especially Advance 2. But Sonic didn't exactly make famously on the Game Gear/Master System 8-bit games.

Huh? The early 90's Sonic games had a far bigger following than it does now lol
Even McDonald's reached out to Sega and featured different Sonic toys in Happy Meals for a year in the early 90's, while I don't agree that Sonic is dying today, it was more alive back in the early 90's then it is now or when it was on the Gamecube and Dreamcast.

The Kid of Yolo. eredeti hozzászólása:

I haven't played the Sonic Boom series, but they are getting loads of mess for it. Come to think of it, many Sonic snobs have been bugging Sega/Sonic Team about EVERY game since 1998. Some of them think that the classic games are perfect (Which they aren't, by a LONGGG shot), and that the 3D games are trash. Screw you annoying fanboys. My favorite game is Sonic Unleashed (No, I'm not kidding) and I also played (and really liked) Adventure 2, Colors, Generations and all the classic games. There are problems in EVERY video game. Nothing is perfect, and the fanbase should know that. I'm just a normal fan who likes all the games in a way. I'm even willing to play Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog, cause I'm not a hater to the series. Who else is with me?

Yes and No.

I feel that I can only agree with you to an extent...

I agree with you that the newer 3D Sonic games aren't trash, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 are great and so is Generations is phenomnenal and Lost World is really good but kids these days just can't admit that the newer games aren't as nearly as great as the older ones.

I wish I could say that it was just my nostalgic googles and my childhood but being someone who bought when I bought my Dreamcast on 9/9/99, yes, Sonic Adventure was the truly perfection at the time, however, in retrospective, realizing that it just doesn't hold up against the original 2D Sonics.

I semi-agree with you that every game has it's problems. Master Drive/Game Gear or even PS1 games didn't really have problems back then, they weren't buggy messes like games today -of course it's because the mire data is packed into the game, the more likely it is to have bugs. There's no real defense for the game-breaking coding that we are seeing in today's games though (and the past 5 years).

I'm not sure why people hate the older Sonic games, they were and will always be the first Sonic games and without them there would be no newer ones. I think that had kids of today grew up with the older games, they'd see things differently, not because of nostalgic reasons but for the progression and succession of the series.

There are certain newer Sonic games that should have never been made and the android/iOS games are an embarrassment to the Sonic franchise. I'm all for 3D/Modern Sonic but I just want it done right. We can't continue to support half-@$$ed games just because they are Sonic games.

Also, I'd like to see more marriages between the old and newer Sonic's. Generations was great because of that and I think it's cool to have both working alongside each other because they are so same yet completely different characters.

[Cheese@Toasty]

The Kid of Yolo. eredeti hozzászólása:

I haven't played the Sonic Boom series, but they are getting loads of mess for it. Come to think of it, many Sonic snobs have been bugging Sega/Sonic Team about EVERY game since 1998. Some of them think that the classic games are perfect (Which they aren't, by a LONGGG shot), and that the 3D games are trash. Screw you annoying fanboys. My favorite game is Sonic Unleashed (No, I'm not kidding) and I also played (and really liked) Adventure 2, Colors, Generations and all the classic games. There are problems in EVERY video game. Nothing is perfect, and the fanbase should know that. I'm just a normal fan who likes all the games in a way. I'm even willing to play Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog, cause I'm not a hater to the series. Who else is with me?

I'm kind of with you but the whole "I'm not a hater to the series " thing kind of bugs me. Some people have genuine opinions about loving the classic games and hating the 3D games. Just because they have a different opinion than you doesn't mean they're a hater

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

I'm a bit over 3 hours into Sonic: Lost World now and I'm lovin it. While I'm sure alot of newer Sonic gamers wouldn't recognize this, about 80% of the enemies on Sonic: Lost World are actually 3D versions of the enemies on Sonic The Hedgehog 2. I love that about the game, it's like a love letter to older folks like myself - well.. first Sonic Generations and now Sonic Lost World. There's just so many things that excites me about this game. Even though the gameplay is totally different from classic Sonic games and Sonic Adventure games, it's nice to see the love and detail they've squeezed in. Tons of easter eggs spotted so far :)

And on the other hand, I've played nearly an hour of Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Ep. 1 and every time I play it I cringe. It's as if Sega tried to mainstream the 2D platforming experience. Let me explain...

My problems with Sonic 4 Ep. 1 as of an hour in:
*The camera should have been further out, Sonic looks to big
*He moves super slow
*Homing attack? Really? Why?
*The game is WAY TOO EASY!
*Levels and bosses we've all seen before..

I expect Sonic players of this generation will love Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Ep.1 but as a veteran, I look at it as a joke. Seems like a very poorly handled attempt for recreating Sonic The Hedgehog 2 but murdering everything we love it in the process.

There are 2 different games. So I mean, I love some of the newer Sonic games but... Some are just horrible lol As a Sonic fan for many years, I can't praise Sega for something that isn't good. I can only give credit where it is due.

Please understand, My vendetta isn't with 3D Modern Sonic games, more like poorly made Sonic games in general. It was very rare to get a bad Sonic game in the early/mid 90's. Even the spin-offs like Spinball and Dr. Robotnick's Mean Bean Machine were great but I suppose that was at a time where Sega was on fire. Now it seems, people are settling for what could be better just because it holds a franchise name. Same thing with Jrpg's on Steam though, a crappy port gets released and people will give it a good rating just so that Steam will get more Jrpg's - and they're right, it will... problem is they'll just continue to get crappy ports of Jrpg's. I think some people are having that same mentality here and I cannot be a person that cheerishes a game that doesn't deserve to be. As a fan, I think Sonic deserves better than that, heck we all deserve better.

I can't wait to see what Sega does next though, a 25th anniversary something is in store :)