Was Shadow a good character after all?

[Ikagura]

Just make a retrospective about him in the entire serie.

Maybe in a way he should've looked closer to Sonic (as seen in his drafts) and there should've been a real reason why he would ever help Robotnik.

And maybe he should've been a one-time character (aside from spin-offs)

[Sixtyfivekills]

Yes he was, next question.

[supermichael]

Actually the game explains why he "helped" Dr Eggman, he was basically using Dr Eggman.

Shadow the Hedgehog was and still is a good character and it is good that he appeared in new games.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by supermichael7:

Actually the game explains why he "helped" Dr Eggman, he was basically using Dr Eggman.

It's not really explicitely stated in the game...

[supermichael]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by supermichael7:

Actually the game explains why he "helped" Dr Eggman, he was basically using Dr Eggman.

It's not really explicitely stated in the game...

Does the game need to specifically state it? Shadow helped Dr Eggman to collect the Chaos Emerald while tricking him into thinking that that all the 7 Chaos Emerald was to power up the cannon. While in reality getting all the 7 Chaos Emerald was to destroy the earth.

Therefore Shadow used Eggman and tricked him.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by supermichael7:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

It's not really explicitely stated in the game...

Does the game need to specifically state it? Shadow helped Dr Eggman to collect the Chaos Emerald while tricking him into thinking that that all the 7 Chaos Emerald was to power up the cannon. While in reality getting all the 7 Chaos Emerald was to destroy the earth.

Therefore Shadow used Eggman and tricked him.

Technically it still does power up the canon.

But Shadow told him that he could grant him one wish to thank him to wake him up.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.


On the main subject, Shadow was mostly brought back because of fan demand but he has no real reasons to in Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog was a mess story-wise and got somewhat retconned.

He got flanderized (maybe even more than Tails and Knuckles) to a point where he has two moods: cares about nothing or be an evil edgelord.

At least Boom tried to give him more personality than in the canon games since 2006.


Finally, he still got handled better by Sega than Metal Sonic.

[Cuminhotep the Sexth]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by supermichael7:

Does the game need to specifically state it? Shadow helped Dr Eggman to collect the Chaos Emerald while tricking him into thinking that that all the 7 Chaos Emerald was to power up the cannon. While in reality getting all the 7 Chaos Emerald was to destroy the earth.

Therefore Shadow used Eggman and tricked him.

Technically it still does power up the canon.

But Shadow told him that he could grant him one wish to thank him to wake him up.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.


On the main subject, Shadow was mostly brought back because of fan demand but he has no real reasons to in Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog was a mess story-wise and got somewhat retconned.

He got flanderized (maybe even more than Tails and Knuckles) to a point where he has two moods: cares about nothing or be an evil edgelord.

At least Boom tried to give him more personality than in the canon games since 2006.


Finally, he still got handled better by Sega than Metal Sonic.

Yes but he wasn't really an edgelord in Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes... This bs started when Jason Griffith started to voice him. David Humphrey was perfect but somehow they managed to do such a thing like this. Do you remember when Shadow was an emotional character the way he is supposed to be like. Yeah those were the good times, we owe so much to David Humphrey for being the only voice actor who didn't ruin Shadow's personality.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Spinony:

Yes but he wasn't really an edgelord in Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes... This bs started when Jason Griffith started to voice him. David Humphrey was perfect but somehow they managed to do such a thing like this. Do you remember when Shadow was an emotional character the way he is supposed to be like. Yeah those were the good times, we owe so much to David Humphrey for being the only voice actor who didn't ruin Shadow's personality.

It wasn't just the voice actor, but also the script writers. Even with the best voice actor, I doubt they could give Shadow a personality or emotions if the script was as bad as it was in the Shadow game.

[Cuminhotep the Sexth]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by Spinony:

Yes but he wasn't really an edgelord in Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes... This bs started when Jason Griffith started to voice him. David Humphrey was perfect but somehow they managed to do such a thing like this. Do you remember when Shadow was an emotional character the way he is supposed to be like. Yeah those were the good times, we owe so much to David Humphrey for being the only voice actor who didn't ruin Shadow's personality.

It wasn't just the voice actor, but also the script writers. Even with the best voice actor, I doubt they could give Shadow a personality or emotions if the script was as bad as it was in the Shadow game.

Yes.

[Ikagura]

I forgot who Jason was.

Didn't he make Shadow sounds more like Solid Snake?

Anyway he was written better in Sonic Battle (out of all places).