final chase - best level in ALL sonic franchise

[olc]

why this level was never remastered and reused? some similarities you can find on sonic and all stars racing transformed on the egg space station track (apparently eggman took his grandfather plans and did a death star???) and there are some similarities, then again is not the ARK. and in shadow the hedgehog, the ARK levels are just platforms with bad .jpegs of the backround of SA2 original level...

[olc]

Originally posted by Dark Redshift:

I think it's the constant, irritating magnetic cylinders as opposed to Final Rush's fun grind rail marathon. I'm not saying the level is bad though as I enjoy it and the magnet drums aren't a problem after finding ways to speedrun. They can even help with that.

Also, by Sonic the Hedgehog, don't you mean Generations? Sonic 1 and New Sonic don't have levels in space, let alone on the ARK, unless you count the singularity in New Sonic's last story. You probably mean either the Shadow boss in Generations HD or the Bio Lizard boss in the 3DS version.

Personally my favourite ARK levels are Crazy Gadget (with time and patience to grow used to it thanks to the Tetris block room at the end), Cosmic Wall, Meteor Herd, Final Rush, Cannon's Core, The Doom, Lost Impact, Space Gadget and Cosmic Fall. The closest they get to a remastering is Final Rush appearing destroyed after the events of SA2's Last Story as The ARK level in Shadow (also a good level), Cosmic Fall's theme in All Stars Racing for Death Egg Hanger (Xbox/console DLC only) and Space Gadget's gravity mechanic in the first Genocide City level in Forces.

just corrected it. i was refering to shadow the hedgehog. final rush is good as well, yet final chase has an extra realistic size of different levels. with shadow you go up down left right and every where. in rush you mostly are going downwards in the rails to the cannon's core. shadow is just going trough all the levels on the outside of the ARK (inside the atmospheric shield of course he would die in outer space without his super form)

[olc]

Originally posted by Dark Redshift:

Originally posted by olc:

just corrected it. i was refering to shadow the hedgehog. final rush is good as well, yet final chase has an extra realistic size of different levels. with shadow you go up down left right and every where. in rush you mostly are going downwards in the rails to the cannon's core. shadow is just going trough all the levels on the outside of the ARK (inside the atmospheric shield of course he would die in outer space without his super form)

Pity that the ARK level was Final Rush/Final Chase but largely only played on Black Volts (the golden black hawk aliens that spit worms) though there are two brief indoors bits: the conduit that replaces the three chutes and the giant battery where the second set of chutes and the flaming debris chase was. (where the final defence unit is found)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1415022831

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1415024676

It would have been nice to see Final Rush with a bit of Black Volt flying but with most of the rails still intact if you wanted to find secret keys or strictly take the neutral mission. Maybe the conduit in the first image could be longer and in the soaping rails route, it could function like a similar one that was cut from Halo 2, now restored as a mod for PC:

It's at 1:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMahag8wEtc&t=12s

They also need to improve the grinding as I always thought Shadow's grinding was far too slow compared to SA2 and Heroes, being a downgrade from both.

shadow was never really meant to grind. i think in some alpha level the space between the heel and the rest of the shoes of shadow would mean he had some tech in the shoes to place over the rail the shoe, and the shoe would hover a few milimitters over the rails, not grinding but sliding. the grinding effect was added cause it was cool as sonic grinds the rails would be a downgrade for shadow.