Mining

[Jen]

I have an iron pickaxe, mining level nearly 15, but i am unable to mine gemstones or even iron ore in walls. does it simply need to be stronger or is it mainly mining level?

[I'm with STUPID👉]

It also matters what your pickaxe is made of. Make one with the hardest ores you have.

[Iyasenu]

Mining level is a great determiner of what you can mine.
Also, wall nodes are more difficult to mine than things such as big rocks.
So, increase your Mining Level, and maybe look into getting a material harder than iron, somehow.

Maybe from Iron you can step up to Obsidian, or Steel.
Try checking out mountain tiles on the world map and looking for big rocks to mine.

According to the wiki, the formula for mining ability is:

mining skill x 1.5 + pickaxe hardness + pickaxe enchantment level + pickaxe blessing bonus

So mining skill can make up the difference quite well.
Mining out a dungeon's ordinary walls can be good training.

[Jen]

having a lot of trouble finding higher and also it seems strange that even with iron, copper is ranked hard to mine and even lesser gems are impossible.

[Tenoshii]

Two other things worth taking into consideration:

• Worshiping Opatos as a God will boost your Mining skill
  
• Dual wielding 1h blunt weapons that have +Mining skill bonus will provide a boost too

[tatterdemalian]

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

According to the wiki, the formula for mining ability is:

mining skill x 1.5 + pickaxe hardness + pickaxe enchantment level + pickaxe blessing bonus

Wiki formulas are outdated, tested them using a new character that shouldn't have been able to mine iron big rocks at Mining:6 but could.

[Iyasenu]

Originally posted by tatterdemalian:

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

According to the wiki, the formula for mining ability is:

mining skill x 1.5 + pickaxe hardness + pickaxe enchantment level + pickaxe blessing bonus

Wiki formulas are outdated, tested them using a new character that shouldn't have been able to mine iron big rocks at Mining:6 but could.

That's a shame, but at least the basic advice is still relevant.
Improving your Mining Skill (or equipping things that boost your skill), improving the material of your pickaxe, and big rocks being easier to mine than wall-ore.

There's also the option of using Flam explosives to mine, but I never tried that outside of the rock-clearing part of the Vernis quest, haha.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by tatterdemalian:

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

According to the wiki, the formula for mining ability is:

mining skill x 1.5 + pickaxe hardness + pickaxe enchantment level + pickaxe blessing bonus

Wiki formulas are outdated, tested them using a new character that shouldn't have been able to mine iron big rocks at Mining:6 but could.

Shouldn't have been able to using what pick? A Basalt Pick with 6 Mining can mine an Iron Big Rock according to the formulae involved.

[tatterdemalian]

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

There's also the option of using Flam explosives to mine, but I never tried that outside of the rock-clearing part of the Vernis quest, haha.

I saved all my flam for mining lapis and iron ore in the Vernis mines before my basalt pickaxe could dig it out. Took like half a day to chop up every big rock by hand, but getting an iron pickaxe on the second level was worth it.

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by tatterdemalian:

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

There's also the option of using Flam explosives to mine, but I never tried that outside of the rock-clearing part of the Vernis quest, haha.

I saved all my flam for mining lapis and iron ore in the Vernis mines before my basalt pickaxe could dig it out. Took like half a day to chop up every big rock by hand, but getting an iron pickaxe on the second level was worth it.

If you want an Iron Pickaxe it's much easier to use a high-hardness Hammer to break stuff in cities for Iron Ore/Ingots. Generators will give it to you, so will decorative armor and safes (except the golden ones in Thieves Guild, ofc). A really convenient spot if you have Pickpocketing is to break into the building in the southwest of Palmia, which has several Generators and Safes (which often have gold bars and platinum coins). Or you could go shut yourself in the vault in the bank in Derphy and rob them of their stuff and smash the safes.

[tatterdemalian]

Originally posted by gimmethegepgun:

If you want an Iron Pickaxe it's much easier to use a high-hardness Hammer to break stuff in cities for Iron Ore/Ingots. Generators will give it to you, so will decorative armor and safes (except the golden ones in Thieves Guild, ofc). A really convenient spot if you have Pickpocketing is to break into the building in the southwest of Palmia, which has several Generators and Safes (which often have gold bars and platinum coins). Or you could go shut yourself in the vault in the bank in Derphy and rob them of their stuff and smash the safes.

Yeah, my Golem Farmer started with a lot of neat base building skills, but not Pickpocketing, and I didn't get enough bad karma to join the Thieves' Guild until nearly a year in (because I didn't get any good karma either).

[gimmethegepgun]

Well, you can still go smash Generators and Servers (Aquili Teola) and other things that look like they might be made out of iron.

[Grayfeatherz]

You can auto mine with right click held down and mine the first floor of the puppy dungeon out and get some gold bars out of it to to leveling up mining.

[Faerador]

Or use those "strange copper coins" you sometimes get as quest rewards in the Junk Gacha machines (there's one in Derphy and another in Mysilia, and I vaguely remember seeing another in a third town but can't remember which one it was), looking for items made out of the high-end materials. You're really looking for stuff made of adamantite, IMO, but you can find lots of decent, rare materials through the Gacha. I was able to leapfrog from a Steel Pickaxe and Hammer to Adamantite with a few dozen copper coins and some save scumming.

Use your Hammer to dissassemble them into stones or ores (depending on the base item you're dismantling), which you can then use for your pickaxe. Some items will dismantle into scrap and fabric, too, but there's not a way I know to transmute the fabric into a stone or ore, and it takes a lot more scrap to convert it into an ore.

[The Red Comet]

Originally posted by Faerador:

Or use those "strange copper coins" you sometimes get as quest rewards in the Junk Gacha machines (there's one in Derphy and another in Mysilia, and I vaguely remember seeing another in a third town but can't remember which one it was), looking for items made out of the high-end materials. You're really looking for stuff made of adamantite, IMO, but you can find lots of decent, rare materials through the Gacha. I was able to leapfrog from a Steel Pickaxe and Hammer to Adamantite with a few dozen copper coins and some save scumming.

Use your Hammer to dissassemble them into stones or ores (depending on the base item you're dismantling), which you can then use for your pickaxe. Some items will dismantle into scrap and fabric, too, but there's not a way I know to transmute the fabric into a stone or ore, and it takes a lot more scrap to convert it into an ore.

Dont you need a hammer made of stronger stuff then adamantite to break those down?

[gimmethegepgun]

Originally posted by The Red Comet:

Dont you need a hammer made of stronger stuff then adamantite to break those down?

Your effective hardness for dismantling is increased by your Crafting skill. I don't know if it's 1.5 per level like Mining is, but I would venture a guess that it is.