Lets talk about effective money farm in current build

[Grayrabbit]

So, far as I going trough walktrough, guide, and wiki in both EN and JP.
Everybody states that making booze out of fish/Tomato or line up NPC with "investing" traits like producers, bankers and mayors, or line up religious zealots and tax the ♥♥♥♥ out of them is currently most idea that is brought up.

But, I think Author already nerf the ♥♥♥♥ out of this already.
I made much more money selling junk I rack up from going through Nefia(Dungeon) instead of try to rich my self with moonshining booze or taxing base residents.

There's gotta be more effective way to make money in this game, seven league boots or other useful iconic item from Elona goes from 1mil oren tops and if playing normally you ain't making much money to even buy another property or pay off Royter's debt.

There have to be another way to farm money, any thoughts guys??

[Just Some Random Kid]

Tenoshii の投稿を引用：

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

You can do this for a tourist bed as well and the Kings bed is worth a TON for how "good" your town is, especially when combined with the storage upgrade. My one kings bed is worth 1.6 million town worth after upgrading it with the storage upgrades like 60 times which is a lot easier to do if you already do fishing or have passive forms of small medal farming.

Very good to know. Might go this route rather than trying to learn the blueprint and boost the stats of the wood used to make it via farming, especially given how much time I spend fishing these days.

Kings beds are relatively easy to make if you want to go through the effort of making them better then what you can get with tickets. You can steal a crown from Mysilia itself right next to the actual bed itself. There is probably easier ways of acquiring it but it's a respawnable crown source so yea.

[Iyasenu]

I'm working on my Carpentry skill to be able to make a "better than with Tickets" King's Bed.
So much Carpentry...

[Hod and vampire co]

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

Tenoshii の投稿を引用：

Very good to know. Might go this route rather than trying to learn the blueprint and boost the stats of the wood used to make it via farming, especially given how much time I spend fishing these days.

Kings beds are relatively easy to make if you want to go through the effort of making them better then what you can get with tickets. You can steal a crown from Mysilia itself right next to the actual bed itself. There is probably easier ways of acquiring it but it's a respawnable crown source so yea.

thieves guild also has respawnable pickpocket room in the back also has a couple gold stacks I used for sculpting

[Akameka]

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

Tenoshii の投稿を引用：

Very good to know. Might go this route rather than trying to learn the blueprint and boost the stats of the wood used to make it via farming, especially given how much time I spend fishing these days.

Kings beds are relatively easy to make if you want to go through the effort of making them better then what you can get with tickets. You can steal a crown from Mysilia itself right next to the actual bed itself. There is probably easier ways of acquiring it but it's a respawnable crown source so yea.

There are 3 crowns to pickpocket in the thieves guild treasure room

[Arlian]

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

Nefias can never out perform fishing and making wine out of it. Even when speedrunning Nefias and selling everything you find most even level 60+ Nefia generate maybe 10-15k for the effort while Fishing can do that in a fraction of the time while also getting you currencies like Small Medals.

Not true for higher level Nefias. I consistently make 20 to 30k on Level 200 nefias and it takes less than a day to run through it, kill all the mobs and boss (the more evolved enemies you find the more loot) and teleport back to base to sell the loot. It is absolutely impossible to make 30k from fishing in a day by turning fish into flakes and making wine. I know that because I've spent an entire year in-game following this fishing guide: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2135150/discussions/0/595134572710173741/ and the most I've ever obtained with fishing is 400k a month by optimizing it as much as I can.

Passive and semi-passive income such as beekeeping, fishing, furniture production are good early and mid-game methods of making money. Nefia outcompetes them in the end-game.

[Akameka]

I think it more or less depends on which scale you do things. The more you dedicate to it, the more money you get from it.

If you grind up your music stat you can makes tons of money from high difficulty party quest. at 5000 fame, a high level harvest quest will net you up to 4k in two hours or so if you bring more than asked for. A no farmer honey farm might net you 2k every 2-3 days, but a fully dedicated plot of land with tons of farmers will racks up way more passively.

And of course if you dedicate time to fighting, then Nefias and war quests will racks you tons of money too.

[raviolles]

level 200 nefias... how much fame do i need to gather?
for me at 5000+ fame with advance license the highest nefia i can find is level 65
i think i'll stay there for a while
i'm not ready to go to that level, let me be carefree
i can't imagine the tax

[Akameka]

i can't imagine the tax

5000 fame = lvl50 nefias,
so about 20000 fame for lvl 200 nefias I guess, for 40k oren as fame taxes per month.

I think at that point you just stop paying your taxes, murder any guards on sight and rather invest in incognito spells and scrolls if you ever need to go buy/sell in towns.

[Just Some Random Kid]

Arlian の投稿を引用：

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

Nefias can never out perform fishing and making wine out of it. Even when speedrunning Nefias and selling everything you find most even level 60+ Nefia generate maybe 10-15k for the effort while Fishing can do that in a fraction of the time while also getting you currencies like Small Medals.

Not true for higher level Nefias. I consistently make 20 to 30k on Level 200 nefias and it takes less than a day to run through it, kill all the mobs and boss (the more evolved enemies you find the more loot) and teleport back to base to sell the loot. It is absolutely impossible to make 30k from fishing in a day by turning fish into flakes and making wine. I know that because I've spent an entire year in-game following this fishing guide: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2135150/discussions/0/595134572710173741/ and the most I've ever obtained with fishing is 400k a month by optimizing it as much as I can.

Passive and semi-passive income such as beekeeping, fishing, furniture production are good early and mid-game methods of making money. Nefia outcompetes them in the end-game.

Oh well yea, considering that Nefia can theoretically scale infinitely when you uncap your fame there is a certain point where it just starts making absurd amounts of money. But I'd assume anyone who is that far in the game likely already knows most of the money making methods and can make their own informed decision on what's most valuable to them.

Also hey, that's my fishing guide lol <3

[Albreo]

Akameka の投稿を引用：

i can't imagine the tax

5000 fame = lvl50 nefias,
so about 20000 fame for lvl 200 nefias I guess, for 40k oren as fame taxes per month.

I think at that point you just stop paying your taxes, murder any guards on sight and rather invest in incognito spells and scrolls if you ever need to go buy/sell in towns.

Nah I'm at 24k fame and the tax I have to pay is 27k. The resident/faith tax can almost cover the cost. Then I pay them 20k extra for 20 more gold bars. That's just 2 nefias worth of money.

But I do nefia for the gear. It's pretty much my source of life skills level. For example I have +60 in farming skill from the gear, +150 pickpocket skill (can nap the snowman), +50-60 in most crafting skill, +80 memorization skill for a good sleep, etc.

[Tenoshii]

Albreo の投稿を引用：

But I do nefia for the gear. It's pretty much my source of life skills level. For example I have +60 in farming skill from the gear, +150 pickpocket skill (can nap the snowman), +50-60 in most crafting skill, +80 memorization skill for a good sleep, etc.

Wow... great to know I have nice stat scaling on gear to look forward to when I get back to doing Nefias more often.

[Malagan]

Akameka の投稿を引用：

i can't imagine the tax

5000 fame = lvl50 nefias,
so about 20000 fame for lvl 200 nefias I guess, for 40k oren as fame taxes per month.

I think at that point you just stop paying your taxes, murder any guards on sight and rather invest in incognito spells and scrolls if you ever need to go buy/sell in towns.

Is it a straight line equation?
Also, sending you a friend request would love to pick your brain about a few things on Elin, if you don't mind!

[Arlian]

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

Arlian の投稿を引用：

Not true for higher level Nefias. I consistently make 20 to 30k on Level 200 nefias and it takes less than a day to run through it, kill all the mobs and boss (the more evolved enemies you find the more loot) and teleport back to base to sell the loot. It is absolutely impossible to make 30k from fishing in a day by turning fish into flakes and making wine. I know that because I've spent an entire year in-game following this fishing guide: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2135150/discussions/0/595134572710173741/ and the most I've ever obtained with fishing is 400k a month by optimizing it as much as I can.

Passive and semi-passive income such as beekeeping, fishing, furniture production are good early and mid-game methods of making money. Nefia outcompetes them in the end-game.

Oh well yea, considering that Nefia can theoretically scale infinitely when you uncap your fame there is a certain point where it just starts making absurd amounts of money. But I'd assume anyone who is that far in the game likely already knows most of the money making methods and can make their own informed decision on what's most valuable to them.

Also hey, that's my fishing guide lol <3

Great guide, thanks for making it!

[Just Some Random Kid]

Arlian の投稿を引用：

Just Some Random Kid の投稿を引用：

Oh well yea, considering that Nefia can theoretically scale infinitely when you uncap your fame there is a certain point where it just starts making absurd amounts of money. But I'd assume anyone who is that far in the game likely already knows most of the money making methods and can make their own informed decision on what's most valuable to them.

Also hey, that's my fishing guide lol <3

Great guide, thanks for making it!

Thank you very much, felt like it'd be a waste to just do it myself and not catalog it somewhere.

[CornBreadtm]

I'm a high enough level that doing 1 nefia is equal to around 100 baits from fishing for income.

So yeah. I just do dungeons. Having 40 in fishing (the level you need for whales to start showing up) doesn't make up the difference in the slightest.

Most of my fishing is for bonito to get my ally's stats over 100 with my cooking skillz.

Also Nefia don't really scale indefinitely. After nefia 50 they circle back around. And you get putit bosses in nefia 60. The loot remains the same, just the dungeons get easier. So you don't scale up to rooms of Chaos Kings or anything.

The newly added enemies are actually low level. Around 20 or so, which means you can actually see the changes easily for mid game players. But high level content is basically benched. Technically, the highest level of content is wars since all enemies scale as the rounds go up.