Lets talk about effective money farm in current build

[Grayrabbit]

So, far as I going trough walktrough, guide, and wiki in both EN and JP.
Everybody states that making booze out of fish/Tomato or line up NPC with "investing" traits like producers, bankers and mayors, or line up religious zealots and tax the ♥♥♥♥ out of them is currently most idea that is brought up.

But, I think Author already nerf the ♥♥♥♥ out of this already.
I made much more money selling junk I rack up from going through Nefia(Dungeon) instead of try to rich my self with moonshining booze or taxing base residents.

There's gotta be more effective way to make money in this game, seven league boots or other useful iconic item from Elona goes from 1mil oren tops and if playing normally you ain't making much money to even buy another property or pay off Royter's debt.

There have to be another way to farm money, any thoughts guys??

[internetgrout]

Wow, how did you make more money from nefias than from bonito wine? I think flake and honey wine is pretty much my best moneymaker and I spend most of my time destroying nefias

[Grayrabbit]

Originally posted by mrmeagle:

Wow, how did you make more money from nefias than from bonito wine? I think flake and honey wine is pretty much my best moneymaker and I spend most of my time destroying nefias

You just cram every loot to shipping box son.
I notice some magic scrolls and books sell quite well but not magic wands or potions.
Also enemy genes and some high quality weapons and armors sells quite well too.

I'm going through Nefia that is LV 15 to 30ish and there's lot of save/load involve too.

Also, where that heck I could find queen bee!?
I wasn't able to use bee farming to good use all this time...

[internetgrout]

Queen bee is just random, I had one game go for 40 hours without seeing one. And sometimes they'll show up.. make sure to slaughter every innocent bee you see in town

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by Grayrabbit:

So, far as I going trough walktrough, guide, and wiki in both EN and JP.
Everybody states that making booze out of fish/Tomato or line up NPC with "investing" traits like producers, bankers and mayors, or line up religious zealots and tax the ♥♥♥♥ out of them is currently most idea that is brought up.

But, I think Author already nerf the ♥♥♥♥ out of this already.
I made much more money selling junk I rack up from going through Nefia(Dungeon) instead of try to rich my self with moonshining booze or taxing base residents.

There's gotta be more effective way to make money in this game, seven league boots or other useful iconic item from Elona goes from 1mil oren tops and if playing normally you ain't making much money to even buy another property or pay off Royter's debt.

There have to be another way to farm money, any thoughts guys??

Nefias are very profitable yes. Fishing is a more you do it the better it gets type of activity, you fish faster, catch higher quality of fish, reduce junk with levels. It takes a fair amount of fishing to really get going.

If you want a really gross way of making money there are always moon gates and visiting other players bases and stripping them of anything value then leaving and revisiting. Other players bases can be full of stuff unattainable to you and the rarest materials in the game.

[Just Some Random Kid]

Originally posted by Grayrabbit:

Originally posted by mrmeagle:

Wow, how did you make more money from nefias than from bonito wine? I think flake and honey wine is pretty much my best moneymaker and I spend most of my time destroying nefias

You just cram every loot to shipping box son.
I notice some magic scrolls and books sell quite well but not magic wands or potions.
Also enemy genes and some high quality weapons and armors sells quite well too.

I'm going through Nefia that is LV 15 to 30ish and there's lot of save/load involve too.

Also, where that heck I could find queen bee!?
I wasn't able to use bee farming to good use all this time...

Nefias can never out perform fishing and making wine out of it. Even when speedrunning Nefias and selling everything you find most even level 60+ Nefia generate maybe 10-15k for the effort while Fishing can do that in a fraction of the time while also getting you currencies like Small Medals.
Edit: You can also pickpocket them, they really aren't that heavy so you don't need a very high pickpocket/strength level.

If you're looking for "afk" money making getting beehives is a good one. You can furniture ticket them from Mysilia and if you have your own secretary your secretary defaults to sell Mysilia furniture tickets making it easy to get a lot of them.

Besides that getting good taxes (I make around 19k a month which pays for my taxes with 5k additional headroom).

Getting a really good bed combined with production citizens is also probably pretty good.

I had an idea to make a town which has like 2 booksellers+explorers for the rest and just shoving a ton of maps into a shared container and letting them passively collect them. Most chest average like 3-4k raw orens plus the equipment and other currencies they generate. They can easily net like anywhere from like 6-15k orens for a chest. Haven't been able to set it up yet cause there is just so much to do.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by Grayrabbit:

I made much more money selling junk I rack up from going through Nefia(Dungeon) instead of try to rich my self with moonshining booze or taxing base residents.

That's not relevant, and also only happening at small scale. Taxing residents and selling produce/wine are passive income and can be expanded more or less infinitely. Make more towns, recruit more residents, expand fertility, grow more/better stuff, tax more/better stuff, it just keeps ramping up until you are earning like hundreds of thousands per month while doing nothing. And you can be running dungeons or fishing at the same time.

[Tenoshii]

Originally posted by Grayrabbit:

Also, where that heck I could find queen bee!?
I wasn't able to use bee farming to good use all this time...

I just save-scum killing the 6 bees in Mystila(sp) whenever I'm there and I see they respawned.

Originally posted by Just Some Random Kid:

Getting a really good bed combined with production citizens is also probably pretty good.

Is there a way in game to see which beds are "better" for this than others or is it one of those things to be looked up on a wiki?

[Hod and vampire co]

Originally posted by Just Some Random Kid:

Getting a really good bed combined with production citizens is also probably pretty good.

Is there a way in game to see which beds are "better" for this than others or is it one of those things to be looked up on a wiki? [/quote]

usually its just maxing out a wood type that provides healing I think was the best via getting something like willow seeds and maxing out its stats via farming

then combing it with high end silk or maybe cotton

just keep adding higher and higher + numbers

[roy2x]

Comparing fishing and nefia diving is probably not that simple timewise? Fishing takes time and not just for fishing itself but the gathering and crafting of bait, converting the fish to flakes and then into wine. Nefia diving you just go in an slaughter an easy nefia and dump everything into the box. One constraint for nefia diving is probably finding merchants to buy your loot if you fill all your shipping slots up. There is also the issue of running out of close by nefias so traveling now becomes a factor. You can buy maps and get info from adventurers/informers to get close spawning nefia, but those will run out as well.

The real reason fishing is so good is because its less involved than fighting. You craft whatever you need, sleep for stamina. Take enough bait for your stamina bar and fish, sleep for stamina. You can go fishing for a long time without worrying about the fish rotting in the ground because rotting fish makes no difference once turned to wine.

I just make sugar wine now for money. Its feels less than what I can make fishing(for now) but its even easier because all you have to do once the flowers and beehives are set up is just to collect honey, make sugar, turn to wine, profit. It frees me up to do other things. You can also scale up honey because the only limit to it is fertility.

[Just Some Random Kid]

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

Originally posted by Grayrabbit:

Also, where that heck I could find queen bee!?
I wasn't able to use bee farming to good use all this time...

I just save-scum killing the 6 bees in Mystila(sp) whenever I'm there and I see they respawned.

Originally posted by Just Some Random Kid:

Getting a really good bed combined with production citizens is also probably pretty good.

Is there a way in game to see which beds are "better" for this than others or is it one of those things to be looked up on a wiki?

King bed. You can get one from Mysilia for 104 tickets. Then use the bed storage upgrade from Miral's workshop to make it so all of your people can sleep in it at the same time.

Until you get the recipe yourself and the crafting level to make better ones this if your best bet.

I believe body pillows can make it better as well which you can get easily from Little Garden.

Edit: Another few things to note.

You can do this for a tourist bed as well and the Kings bed is worth a TON for how "good" your town is, especially when combined with the storage upgrade. My one kings bed is worth 1.6 million town worth after upgrading it with the storage upgrades like 60 times which is a lot easier to do if you already do fishing or have passive forms of small medal farming.

[Grayrabbit]

Hmmm, thanks for the all the reply with advice guys.

Well, currently my fishing skills are lv16 with average income of 2000 Oren each try so what I should looking in to is try level up my fishing skills I guess....

As for tax it goes, I only have first place you get from begging of the game and Vernis so out of 2 I only taxing grassland one.

It would be heart wrenching to tax Vernis with all the friends in it... but will see.
Definitely I should looking to buy more land certificate to open up another base though.

Then, save scumming for bees, noted.
Well, I'll get back to work using all of advice you guys give me, wish me luck!

[Tenoshii]

Originally posted by Just Some Random Kid:

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

I just save-scum killing the 6 bees in Mystila(sp) whenever I'm there and I see they respawned.


Is there a way in game to see which beds are "better" for this than others or is it one of those things to be looked up on a wiki?

King bed. You can get one from Mysilia for 104 tickets. Then use the bed storage upgrade from Miral's workshop to make it so all of your people can sleep in it at the same time.

Until you get the recipe yourself and the crafting level to make better ones this if your best bet.

I believe body pillows can make it better as well which you can get easily from Little Garden.

Ahhh, ok. When I was buying my first Storage Chest and the corresponding cooler upgrade I saw that bed expansion thing wondering why I would want that. Now I know, thanks

Originally posted by Hod and vampire co:

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

Originally posted by Just Some Random Kid:

Getting a really good bed combined with production citizens is also probably pretty good.

Is there a way in game to see which beds are "better" for this than others or is it one of those things to be looked up on a wiki?

usually its just maxing out a wood type that provides healing I think was the best via getting something like willow seeds and maxing out its stats via farming

then combing it with high end silk or maybe cotton

just keep adding higher and higher + numbers

Gotcha, hadn't thought of trying to boost non-fruit tree stats with farming.

[Dracon]

What I don't get when trying to make money is how my farmers manage to turn + 14 wheat into + 2 wheat when harvesting it...

[Just Some Random Kid]

Originally posted by Dracon:

What I don't get when trying to make money is how my farmers manage to turn + 14 wheat into + 2 wheat when harvesting it...

the +14 is the tier of the seed not the produce. Even if you manually collect it you'll get the exact same +2 wheat.

[Tenoshii]

Originally posted by Just Some Random Kid:

You can do this for a tourist bed as well and the Kings bed is worth a TON for how "good" your town is, especially when combined with the storage upgrade. My one kings bed is worth 1.6 million town worth after upgrading it with the storage upgrades like 60 times which is a lot easier to do if you already do fishing or have passive forms of small medal farming.

Very good to know. Might go this route rather than trying to learn the blueprint and boost the stats of the wood used to make it via farming, especially given how much time I spend fishing these days.