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same. Did the 0-100 karma quest farm 2 or 3 times and the skill was just lvl10 or so...It gets old really fast. it's not viable at all unless you decide to go full negative karma. You need to steal hundreds and hundreds of things for the skill to become remotely useful beyond stealing very light unatended things. IDK, -1 karma per item no matter what despite not even being able to select what you want to steal just feels like too much.