Elin
Super Noob - Help w/ Hunger
I am very new to this game and having a difficult time. This is shaping up to be very cool, It is absolutely one of those games that i see myself playing 1000 hours.

I prefer this style of graphics and map interface over the 3d open map. If i can only get over the initial hurdle of securing enough food.

I scavage around the various berries and tufts once the house is complete. This tides me over until i can craft a few key pieces of equipment and start searching the map around the initial basecamp.

The drop rate of meat and other usable food stuffs seams to be rather low. I search a nest or slay a fuzzy beast and have (1 in 5) chance of securing some foodstuffs.

It is puting a damper on my mood as it is beginning to feel like the focus on hunger is a bit extreme. Combine that with having to feed your companion and shoot... im about ready to let the little Girl repeatedly die from hunger and focus on myself for the early game.

Are there any super sound ways to begin generating a passive food supply early on? If not what are the most efficient ways to gather food early on? I tried fishing, but it also has an abysmal return rate early on. I feel like i am doing something wrong.
Écrit par Akameka:
you can forage for mushrooms/berries/crimberries in every world tile by pressing enter and exploring, so you shoudln't STARVE. You can also spend bronze coins from some quests to get a good meal in Inns.

That being said, Elona/Elin place a big emphasis on 'good' food as a way of character growth, so you won't be able to just stay like that. You'll need to learn how to cook, by exploring towns and finding the trainer who teach it, so you can turn the food you find in good ingredients that increase your stat growth.

For that, you'll need platinum coin, which you earn by doing quests in towns. best early bet is to go to Yowin (small farmin village near the start) and do the easiest harvest quests. Equip your axe and focus on big harvests and that should work, even without the harvest skill.
You can also do Kill quests at that point if you're a close quarter fighter, that shouldn't be too hard yet.

Once you get 5 platinum, buy the harvest perk in Yowin, cause farming will be tighly tied to your stat growth because it's a big food source. Now, harvest quests will be easier and will also train your stats. Might be usefull to equip a sickle to get seeds for your home.
Farm until you get 5 more platinum and head for Palma to get the cooking skill( I think it's there but I am not sure anymore ).

You can skip thoses parts if your character already have the relevant skills.

Basically, food increase stats by consuming your 'potential' (which recover from various rare ways but also slightly every time you sleep, preferentially in a good bed). Once your potential gets to 'hopeless', your stat growth will vastely diminish.

As a general rule :
> Vegetables = Survavibility
> Meat = Strenght
> Fruits = mind
So a mage focused will mostly eat fruits and vegtables, while a warrior will eat mostly meat and vegtables

A warrior will need to grab the 'Anatomy' skill to get more monster meat as loot, which once nicely cooked, is both profitable in stats and to sell

The result from cooking is random yet dependant on your cooking skill. It's also limited by the quality of the cooking device you use. Botched food is worse than raw one. But it will increase your cooking so that won't happen later. From lvl3-4 cooking results, food become exponentially more effective on stat boost and market value
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Here's some options to consider.
1. Some races eat less than others.
2. The Farmer class starts with skills for farming and cooking, as well as a perk to reduce stamina loss.
3. The poison mushrooms look bad, but the poison is rather weak, and shouldn't be a threat while outside of battle.
4. (small spoiler). completing the quest to find the puppy gives a cooling box which keeps food fresh longer.
5. as a last resort, you could buy and eat travel rations, but they don't give any stat growth.
I am going to try again and focus less on getting equipment together and just forge out.
I appreciate the advice and think i may try a farmer / start a new character.

Ive been sticking close to the starting location and working on quest completion and sick eating weed soup
Also, make sure to make a sickle in order to harvest seeds.
If you just start and have lack of skill to produce enough food (from harvest, dropping meat, etc). Then go castle/town to buy some food that have long shelf life (like as bread, etc), or the cheapest, travel rations.

Also, if you know what material to cooking, you could use cooking tool in castle/town to make cookies, bread, or others.

Once you got cooling box, then accept some harvesting quest could also collect some food during quest.
You can also make long lasting kibble by combining a corpse or a fish with bark in a millstone!
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you can forage for mushrooms/berries/crimberries in every world tile by pressing enter and exploring, so you shoudln't STARVE. You can also spend bronze coins from some quests to get a good meal in Inns.

That being said, Elona/Elin place a big emphasis on 'good' food as a way of character growth, so you won't be able to just stay like that. You'll need to learn how to cook, by exploring towns and finding the trainer who teach it, so you can turn the food you find in good ingredients that increase your stat growth.

For that, you'll need platinum coin, which you earn by doing quests in towns. best early bet is to go to Yowin (small farmin village near the start) and do the easiest harvest quests. Equip your axe and focus on big harvests and that should work, even without the harvest skill.
You can also do Kill quests at that point if you're a close quarter fighter, that shouldn't be too hard yet.

Once you get 5 platinum, buy the harvest perk in Yowin, cause farming will be tighly tied to your stat growth because it's a big food source. Now, harvest quests will be easier and will also train your stats. Might be usefull to equip a sickle to get seeds for your home.
Farm until you get 5 more platinum and head for Palma to get the cooking skill( I think it's there but I am not sure anymore ).

You can skip thoses parts if your character already have the relevant skills.

Basically, food increase stats by consuming your 'potential' (which recover from various rare ways but also slightly every time you sleep, preferentially in a good bed). Once your potential gets to 'hopeless', your stat growth will vastely diminish.

As a general rule :
> Vegetables = Survavibility
> Meat = Strenght
> Fruits = mind
So a mage focused will mostly eat fruits and vegtables, while a warrior will eat mostly meat and vegtables

A warrior will need to grab the 'Anatomy' skill to get more monster meat as loot, which once nicely cooked, is both profitable in stats and to sell

The result from cooking is random yet dependant on your cooking skill. It's also limited by the quality of the cooking device you use. Botched food is worse than raw one. But it will increase your cooking so that won't happen later. From lvl3-4 cooking results, food become exponentially more effective on stat boost and market value
Dernière modification de Akameka; 5 nov. 2024 à 1h43
If you pick up the anatomy skill from the tinkers camp I think? You will get more meat drops from animals which helps.
the little girl is actually fairly easy to keep fed. it seems like any food that you gift or trade to her will never spoil. anytime you find yourself with more food than you can eat before it spoils, you can give her the rest. looks like if you trade her the food you can trade back for it later and use her like a walking fridge

keeping yourself fed is a lot easier once you can afford to start carrying travel rations (14 oren apiece) and buying edible corpses from butchers (usually 18-20 oren).
1. Get Crafting Table
2. Harvest 5 pieces of granite
3. Build Sawmill
4. Make Carpenter's Table
5. Make a Chair and a Desk (you dont really have to meet the crafting skill requirement)
6. Make Tinker's Table
7. Make Hoe and Sickle (optionally shovel)
8. Sickle about 5 mushrooms around your base or in wilderness
9. Use hoe on dirt patches found around your base (optionally make ur own dirt patch by digging up grass tiles with shovel)
10. plant the mushroom spores you've got
11. wait 1 day
12. ??? profit

Mushrooms have growth time of 1 day, if you need more mushroom spores to plant, just sickle the ones u grown, and it should keep you fed really easily and fairly quick to set up too. Easiest reliable starter food supply really., and then from there you can branch out to other foods you want.

This also make it pretty sustainable for you to just stay in base and train on a training dummy and never leave your home base. until you have to pay taxes that is, but by then you can just spend some furniture tickets to get a tax box at your home doorstep and then you can go back to being a hikikomori again.
Dernière modification de LuckyToShoot; 5 nov. 2024 à 5h14
LuckyToShoot a écrit :
1. Get Crafting Table
2. Harvest 5 pieces of granite
3. Build Sawmill
4. Make Carpenter's Table
5. Make a Chair and a Desk (you dont really have to meet the crafting skill requirement)
6. Make Tinker's Table
7. Make Hoe and Sickle (optionally shovel)
8. Sickle about 5 mushrooms around your base or in wilderness
9. Use hoe on dirt patches found around your base (optionally make ur own dirt patch by digging up grass tiles with shovel)
10. plant the mushroom spores you've got
11. wait 1 day
12. ??? profit

Mushrooms have growth time of 1 day, if you need more mushroom spores to plant, just sickle the ones u grown, and it should keep you fed really easily and fairly quick to set up too. Easiest reliable starter food supply really., and then from there you can branch out to other foods you want.

This also make it pretty sustainable for you to just stay in base and train on a training dummy and never leave your home base. until you have to pay taxes that is, but by then you can just spend some furniture tickets to get a tax box at your home doorstep and then you can go back to being a hikikomori again.


This was something I realized a bit late on my first play through.. attempt.

I am going to give it another go his evening with a little more preparation toward food from the begining. I was on day 8 before I crafted the tinkers table.

Do the drop rates for animal reagents increase with skill level?

Greatly appreciate all the advice and will try to make use of as much as I can on my jounrey into Elin . . round 2

Wish I would have known about Elon really like the vide a ton
carry around a Campfire in your back pack help's a lot fore fast access to preparation of food, as well as letting your food ration's last longer, since cooked food last longer then raw food.

also you can wait to cook the food until it is Stale, but not rotten, and it will be considered Fresh again.

also remember cooked food give more nourishment then the raw equality usually so always cook your food if possible.

to pick up your Campfire, you need to NOT carry any tool's or other stuff in your Hand's, that will enable you to "Grab" the Campfire and placing it in the inventory whit the fuel intact from when you grabbed it.

doing this and sometimes just entering random Zones in the wilderness on purpos to gadder Berries helps a lot when it comes to keeping yourself fed, through scavenging a Forest usually yield more food then scavenging a plain or a road map.

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Edit:
only anoyence whit a Campfire is that you can't seem to be able to place them inside town's...

but you can usually find a fireplace in a building that work's as a camp fire, just chop down a random tree in town and add it as fuel to the fireplace.
Dernière modification de Revi-Dragon; 5 nov. 2024 à 9h48
anatomy skill should increase the animal reagent drop rate, and i believe everyone in party anatomy skill contribute to it. tho the rate still wont be too high or reliable. that said going thru one dungeon usually yield about 5 pieces of meat for me.
never eat ration if you can eat something else ( without spending too much of your money of course ). Even raw is still better than nothing.
Ration do not contribute to stat growth, so best usage is literal emergencies and fast travel.
Travel rations basically removed the daily food hassle I had to deal with. When I went to pay taxes in Mysilia, there's a tavern where travel rations are sold. So far it is the cheapest food with most nutrition I could find. For 19 orens you get 51 nutrition, it doesn't go bad weeks later as it is preserved food.
I recommend against rations. It is easy enough to do a quick run through the squares around your base and pick up berries and nuts. The earthquakes reset those tiles you've visited often enough that you don't need to worry about running out. Granted, this doesn't do much for strength and endurance, but stats are stats. Travel rations should only be last-resort. If you want long-term food, I recommend fishing, then combining the fish with bark at the grindstone to make non-spoiling food that stacks and has stats.
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