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phoneticdecay Nov 4, 2024 @ 6:47pm
Super Noob - Help w/ Hunger
I am very new to this game and having a difficult time. This is shaping up to be very cool, It is absolutely one of those games that i see myself playing 1000 hours.

I prefer this style of graphics and map interface over the 3d open map. If i can only get over the initial hurdle of securing enough food.

I scavage around the various berries and tufts once the house is complete. This tides me over until i can craft a few key pieces of equipment and start searching the map around the initial basecamp.

The drop rate of meat and other usable food stuffs seams to be rather low. I search a nest or slay a fuzzy beast and have (1 in 5) chance of securing some foodstuffs.

It is puting a damper on my mood as it is beginning to feel like the focus on hunger is a bit extreme. Combine that with having to feed your companion and shoot... im about ready to let the little Girl repeatedly die from hunger and focus on myself for the early game.

Are there any super sound ways to begin generating a passive food supply early on? If not what are the most efficient ways to gather food early on? I tried fishing, but it also has an abysmal return rate early on. I feel like i am doing something wrong.
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Originally posted by Akameka:
you can forage for mushrooms/berries/crimberries in every world tile by pressing enter and exploring, so you shoudln't STARVE. You can also spend bronze coins from some quests to get a good meal in Inns.

That being said, Elona/Elin place a big emphasis on 'good' food as a way of character growth, so you won't be able to just stay like that. You'll need to learn how to cook, by exploring towns and finding the trainer who teach it, so you can turn the food you find in good ingredients that increase your stat growth.

For that, you'll need platinum coin, which you earn by doing quests in towns. best early bet is to go to Yowin (small farmin village near the start) and do the easiest harvest quests. Equip your axe and focus on big harvests and that should work, even without the harvest skill.
You can also do Kill quests at that point if you're a close quarter fighter, that shouldn't be too hard yet.

Once you get 5 platinum, buy the harvest perk in Yowin, cause farming will be tighly tied to your stat growth because it's a big food source. Now, harvest quests will be easier and will also train your stats. Might be usefull to equip a sickle to get seeds for your home.
Farm until you get 5 more platinum and head for Palma to get the cooking skill( I think it's there but I am not sure anymore ).

You can skip thoses parts if your character already have the relevant skills.

Basically, food increase stats by consuming your 'potential' (which recover from various rare ways but also slightly every time you sleep, preferentially in a good bed). Once your potential gets to 'hopeless', your stat growth will vastely diminish.

As a general rule :
> Vegetables = Survavibility
> Meat = Strenght
> Fruits = mind
So a mage focused will mostly eat fruits and vegtables, while a warrior will eat mostly meat and vegtables

A warrior will need to grab the 'Anatomy' skill to get more monster meat as loot, which once nicely cooked, is both profitable in stats and to sell

The result from cooking is random yet dependant on your cooking skill. It's also limited by the quality of the cooking device you use. Botched food is worse than raw one. But it will increase your cooking so that won't happen later. From lvl3-4 cooking results, food become exponentially more effective on stat boost and market value
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Zombie Teddy Bear Nov 5, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
once you get the scyth you can harvest seeds and sell them in bulk to buy food in most cities
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phoneticdecay Nov 5, 2024 @ 3:59pm 
So I am a few hours into the second attempt and it is going much easier.

The millstone, scythe and focus on generating money early on is serving me particularly well.

At day 10 so far around this time and feel like inam able to focus on exploration and development more than grabbing ever piece of food.

The primary issue, I think, messing with my first attempt was my lack of understanding on hunger as a condition...

I cannot say how many times I kept looking for a bar... and thay filled is also a condition. I understand there is a checksum slnewhere.. but I thought I was just overlooking it in a tiny icon.

Things are proceeding swell now and inam grateful for the assist in getting a foothold toward enjoying this more fully.

Great gMe.
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Morkath Nov 6, 2024 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by Akameka:
never eat ration if you can eat something else ( without spending too much of your money of course ). Even raw is still better than nothing.
Ration do not contribute to stat growth, so best usage is literal emergencies and fast travel.

travel rations can also be used for fast travel, so it's best to keep them as an emergency food supply, yeah.

Also in addition to that others persons note about bringing a campfire with you everywhere. Bring whatever that first grass starter bed with you as well. It's almost weightless and better than just falling asleep on the ground mid-dungeon.
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Akameka Nov 6, 2024 @ 4:29am 
yeah, makeshift bed or sleeping bag might be usefull in a pinch. At some point, you'll either get strong enough to carry around a good bed/food processing machine around, or you'll use the dimentional storage spell to sleep & cook with your best item whereever you need it.

Dimentional storage spell is just awesome. Every character should get it. Altough it's kinda mid/late game stuff. Vacuum any item that isn't nailed to the ground without penality, and recover them whenever you need them. Also place food in stasis, so you can collect thoses giant 50stones meats and cook them later.
Last edited by Akameka; Nov 6, 2024 @ 4:32am
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phoneticdecay Nov 6, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Akameka:
yeah, makeshift bed or sleeping bag might be usefull in a pinch. At some point, you'll either get strong enough to carry around a good bed/food processing machine around, or you'll use the dimentional storage spell to sleep & cook with your best item whereever you need it.

Dimentional storage spell is just awesome. Every character should get it. Altough it's kinda mid/late game stuff. Vacuum any item that isn't nailed to the ground without penality, and recover them whenever you need them. Also place food in stasis, so you can collect thoses giant 50stones meats and cook them later.


I have wondered about something... there are waystones and shrines that can be "grabbed" but are so heavy you cannot walk. I assumed there might be carts or something later in the game, but like the sound of dimensional storage.. Bag of Holding FTW.
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Shard Nov 6, 2024 @ 3:17pm 
There are wagons you can buy with gold bars at tinkers camp, but they are basically just super-heavy chests, they have no weight reduction that I can see, and have a large weight of their own. Not at all worth the price.
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Akameka Nov 6, 2024 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by phoneticdecay:
Originally posted by Akameka:
yeah, makeshift bed or sleeping bag might be usefull in a pinch. At some point, you'll either get strong enough to carry around a good bed/food processing machine around, or you'll use the dimentional storage spell to sleep & cook with your best item whereever you need it.

Dimentional storage spell is just awesome. Every character should get it. Altough it's kinda mid/late game stuff. Vacuum any item that isn't nailed to the ground without penality, and recover them whenever you need them. Also place food in stasis, so you can collect thoses giant 50stones meats and cook them later.


I have wondered about something... there are waystones and shrines that can be "grabbed" but are so heavy you cannot walk. I assumed there might be carts or something later in the game, but like the sound of dimensional storage.. Bag of Holding FTW.

Dimentional storage spell technically can allow you to carry around those ultra heavy items like altars, although You'll have to get tooooons of level in the spell before being allowed to do so (each level both increase number of item that you can carry inside and maximum weight of individual items that can be placed inside. It already take quite a decent training to be able to place 50 stones items inside, so 500 stones altars seems quite afar lol)
Last edited by Akameka; Nov 6, 2024 @ 3:32pm
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Typical_Name Nov 6, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
Noob question as someone who has yet to buy the game - is there a way of preserving food, ie, turning meat to jerky, pickling fish, canning food, etc?
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Shard Nov 6, 2024 @ 4:26pm 
Corpse or fish plus bark at the grindstone results in unspoiling food with the stats of the corpse or fish that was put into it.
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Akameka Nov 7, 2024 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by Typical_Name:
Noob question as someone who has yet to buy the game - is there a way of preserving food, ie, turning meat to jerky, pickling fish, canning food, etc?

Yep.
> buy or find a fridge, place food inside and it won't spoil ( might need electricity in this game)
> an early quest give you a mini fridge that you can carry around, you can stock 9 type of food item inside and they won't spoil
> You can turn some food into jerky or kible with the according work stations. Thoses takes a long time to spoil.
> You can use the dimentional storage spell to freeze food spoilage state while they are inside.
Last edited by Akameka; Nov 7, 2024 @ 12:45am
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Noteworthy Nov 9, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by Akameka:
Originally posted by Typical_Name:
Noob question as someone who has yet to buy the game - is there a way of preserving food, ie, turning meat to jerky, pickling fish, canning food, etc?

Yep.
> buy or find a fridge, place food inside and it won't spoil ( might need electricity in this game)
> an early quest give you a mini fridge that you can carry around, you can stock 9 type of food item inside and they won't spoil
> You can turn some food into jerky or kible with the according work stations. Thoses takes a long time to spoil.
> You can use the dimentional storage spell to freeze food spoilage state while they are inside.

Man the game sounds like my favorite kind of anime, but it's difficult at least for me. I might be getting too old for this lol
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phoneticdecay Nov 9, 2024 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Noteworthy:
Originally posted by Akameka:

Yep.
> buy or find a fridge, place food inside and it won't spoil ( might need electricity in this game)
> an early quest give you a mini fridge that you can carry around, you can stock 9 type of food item inside and they won't spoil
> You can turn some food into jerky or kible with the according work stations. Thoses takes a long time to spoil.
> You can use the dimentional storage spell to freeze food spoilage state while they are inside.

Man the game sounds like my favorite kind of anime, but it's difficult at least for me. I might be getting too old for this lol


Yea. I have a little time in and am finding it a bit of a grind. There's elements I really love, but it's got some slog amd wearing me down in little ways.
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