gun

[dan83m]

what is it the best gun weapon?

[Iyasenu]

Isn't it a bit situational?
Like Handguns have an optimal range of 1, so they're best for melee encounters.
Assault rifles shoot 3 times by default, but don't get bonus Penetration by default and have an optimal range of 3.
Railguns have an optimal range of 5, which is the farthest, but it means they are worse the closer you are, plus they have lower ammo capacity, a longer reload time, and need Energy Cells instead of bullets.

But I guess one answer would just be, go get Mani of Machine's artifact gun from worshiping him..

[dan83m]

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

Isn't it a bit situational?
Like Handguns have an optimal range of 1, so they're best for melee encounters.
Assault rifles shoot 3 times by default, but don't get bonus Penetration by default and have an optimal range of 3.
Railguns have an optimal range of 5, which is the farthest, but it means they are worse the closer you are, plus they have lower ammo capacity, a longer reload time, and need Energy Cells instead of bullets.

But I guess one answer would just be, go get Mani of Machine's artifact gun from worshiping him..

im element believer can i get something from him?

[Iyasenu]

Originally posted by dan83m:

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

Isn't it a bit situational?
Like Handguns have an optimal range of 1, so they're best for melee encounters.
Assault rifles shoot 3 times by default, but don't get bonus Penetration by default and have an optimal range of 3.
Railguns have an optimal range of 5, which is the farthest, but it means they are worse the closer you are, plus they have lower ammo capacity, a longer reload time, and need Energy Cells instead of bullets.

But I guess one answer would just be, go get Mani of Machine's artifact gun from worshiping him..

im element believer can i get something from him?

Not a gun, no.
Itzpalt will eventually give you a staff that flings fire/ice/lightning bolts.
But that falls under the Magic Device skill, not Guns.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

Originally posted by dan83m:

im element believer can i get something from him?

Not a gun, no.
Itzpalt will eventually give you a staff that flings fire/ice/lightning bolts.
But that falls under the Magic Device skill, not Guns.

The staff doesn't fling bolts as far as I know. It does fire+ice+lightning damage on melee hits, as well as inflicting Elemental scar (weakness to those 3 elements). Even so, you probably aren't going to use it in melee, instead benefiting from the +40% mana and +25% spell effect just from having it equipped.

[Iyasenu]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

Not a gun, no.
Itzpalt will eventually give you a staff that flings fire/ice/lightning bolts.
But that falls under the Magic Device skill, not Guns.

The staff doesn't fling bolts as far as I know. It does fire+ice+lightning damage on melee hits, as well as inflicting Elemental scar (weakness to those 3 elements). Even so, you probably aren't going to use it in melee, instead benefiting from the +40% mana and +25% spell effect just from having it equipped.

Oh, right it's a Staff, not a Cane.
I didn't parse that correctly.

[Astasia]

Not counting god weapons... Probably assault rifle. I suspect high enough ammo conservation will allow you to use like admantite bullets effectively which is probably extremely effective. Pistols are kind of crap, one of the weakest weapons in the game AFAIK, very high damage variance, very low damage, their only strength is high accuracy. Assault rifles can do decent DPS because of their burst, but they are bullet hoses and without ammo conservation it's a struggle to keep ammo in stock. Railguns are expensive to use, I also don't know if you can get very good gems reliably, and I think getting the energy cell recipe is pure RNG. Assault rifles have the highest DPS potential, if you have enough accuracy and account for the 3 round burst. Not factoring in armor or penetration, which I'm not sure is all that important currently.

[AvG]

assault rifles and railguns have the highest dps variance but the module slots are rng too so you can get a really good one but lack the module slots for it.
in the very early game i saw a railgun with a 2d249 baseline roll stat but couldn't afford to buy it at a merchant.
Mani has the probably most powerful ranged dps weapon in the game unless you get really lucky and I mean really lucky, there is so many factors that determine weapon stats on merchants that thousands of rerolls I have seen were "ok" or average upgrades. When I make a more dedicated gunner I was planning on seducing the gun shop merchant in the tech city and invite him to my base so I can see what I can find at high investment.