marksman skill aquistion

[Killermajaro]

is getting it at the thieves guild the easiest way..? the requirements dont seem too enjoyable.

[Iyasenu]

It's not as bad as it sounds.
You don't need to reach -100 Karma, you just need to lose a total of 100 Karma after accepting the quest.
So you can lose 5 Karma, then go do some quests and regain 5 Karma, then lose more, etc. etc. until you've lost a total of 100.

But outside of classes (Archer, Gunner, Inquisitor) and race (Yerles) that start with the Marksman skill, just joining the Thieves Guild and learning it is the most direct and RNG-less way to get it done.

[Astasia]

The easiest for sure, not the only. Rarely you can get skill books from shrines, which can be any skill in the game. Chances are very low, but you could eventually get it that way.

The thief guild requires are a lot easier than they sound, you just need to lose 100 karma total, not drop to -100. You can do very basic stuff like harvest berries or crops in towns, or kick sleeping NPCs to wake them up, to drop 1 karma at a time, then turn in quests to bring it back up. You can join the thief guild without ever dropping below 99 karma if you want, and without ever angering a guard.

[Killermajaro]

ah ok that's not too bad, i will just go ahead and do that thanks!

Another question, is there any downsides to being in guilds? can i be in all of them? or just one?

[Astasia]

There's no downside for joining any guild, you can and should join all of them. You get a salary from each one for ranking up, and you rank up in most of them by doing actions you would be doing anyway.

[Killermajaro]

thank you for the quick and helpful answers <3 :>

[evilserran]

you can actually destroy a wall to get into the stairs in the town. Go down to their treasure room and jack a lot of gold early, to both make money and lose your karma. Its pretty effective.

[Killermajaro]

Originally posted by evilserran:

you can actually destroy a wall to get into the stairs in the town. Go down to their treasure room and jack a lot of gold early, to both make money and lose your karma. Its pretty effective.

sweet thanks!

[Killermajaro]

im having trouble stealing in towns though... i cant open chests or interact with them

[Iyasenu]

Originally posted by Killermajaro:

im having trouble stealing in towns though... i cant open chests or interact with them

You need the Sleight of Hand ability to steal items, which you get from learning the Pickpocket skill... which you learn from the Thieves Guild trainer.

For now, stick to either breaking walls, or kicking people (middle-click, Kick).

You should think about going to Derphy, going to the fancy mansion in the lower part of town, and entering the stairs in the bath water. There should be a golden statue of Lulwy near it, and some corpses.
... at least, I think that was the right staircase.
There's another staircase in town that just leads to some underground brothel.

That should lead to the Thieves Guild treasure vault.
There you can mine the walls for gold stone blocks, which you can use a Sculpting Table to turn into statues, which sell for a decent chunk of change.

[Killermajaro]

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

Originally posted by Killermajaro:

im having trouble stealing in towns though... i cant open chests or interact with them

You need the Sleight of Hand ability to steal items, which you get from learning the Pickpocket skill... which you learn from the Thieves Guild trainer.

For now, stick to either breaking walls, or kicking people (middle-click, Kick).

You should think about going to Derphy, going to the fancy mansion in the lower part of town, and entering the stairs in the bath water. There should be a golden statue of Lulwy near it, and some corpses.
... at least, I think that was the right staircase.
There's another staircase in town that just leads to some underground brothel.

That should lead to the Thieves Guild treasure vault.
There you can mine the walls for gold stone blocks, which you can use a Sculpting Table to turn into statues, which sell for a decent chunk of change.

thank you! is there a point in where i should stop trying to accumulate karma and try to earn it back before getting more?

[Iyasenu]

Originally posted by Killermajaro:

Originally posted by Iyasenu:

You need the Sleight of Hand ability to steal items, which you get from learning the Pickpocket skill... which you learn from the Thieves Guild trainer.

For now, stick to either breaking walls, or kicking people (middle-click, Kick).

You should think about going to Derphy, going to the fancy mansion in the lower part of town, and entering the stairs in the bath water. There should be a golden statue of Lulwy near it, and some corpses.
... at least, I think that was the right staircase.
There's another staircase in town that just leads to some underground brothel.

That should lead to the Thieves Guild treasure vault.
There you can mine the walls for gold stone blocks, which you can use a Sculpting Table to turn into statues, which sell for a decent chunk of change.

thank you! is there a point in where i should stop trying to accumulate karma and try to earn it back before getting more?

I'd avoid going into negative, even -1.
Now, I haven't actually done it, but I hear being negative karma causes guards to attack you on sight.

There are ways to gain karma without going to a town that has guards, of course.
And Derphy actually doesn't have guards, so it's safe no matter how deep your karma goes into the negatives.
But, it's probably better to just not hit negative karma.