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Tannco Nov 20, 2024 @ 6:37pm
Increase base tax by 500 annually is crazy
Making the game feel so stressful
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Iyasenu Nov 20, 2024 @ 6:42pm 
You'll be alright, you just need to get a source of income.
There's some recommendations around the board, and there should be one to fit your playstyle.
Getting a town kitted up for tourism value and some sort of production, like farming, is a good start.
Or, you could just go the active way and become a professional Nefia-diver and beat the bosses for treasures.

As the years pass by, it should only get easier.
But, as always, if taxes get too high, try selling your fame to informers.
1 fame = 2 oren bonus to taxes each month, so if you aren't doing the high level Nefias/quests that high fame allows, you might as well sell it for pocket change and lower bills.
Tannco Nov 20, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by Iyasenu:
You'll be alright, you just need to get a source of income.
There's some recommendations around the board, and there should be one to fit your playstyle.
Getting a town kitted up for tourism value and some sort of production, like farming, is a good start.
Or, you could just go the active way and become a professional Nefia-diver and beat the bosses for treasures.

As the years pass by, it should only get easier.
But, as always, if taxes get too high, try selling your fame to informers.
1 fame = 2 oren bonus to taxes each month, so if you aren't doing the high level Nefias/quests that high fame allows, you might as well sell it for pocket change and lower bills.
There's 2 parameter to determine the tax, 1.as you mentioned, the fame, 2$ for each fame. not big deal 2.how many year elapsed, 500 each year also accumulated, you can't do anything about it, it just keep increasing
H.Honor Nov 20, 2024 @ 6:56pm 
My base tax is 2500 with tax evasion but my fame tax is over 7-8k
it has been kinda crazy because i don't wanna sell my fame because it will lower the dungeons lvls kinda stuck in a grind loop :MoonlighterIrritated:
Iyasenu Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:08pm 
I haven't played that many years, but I thought the base (500 x year) part of the tax had a cap of 5 years, so 2500.
I'm barely at the end of year 2 in my game, so I can't be totally sure.
But, if I read right, it shouldn't infinitely scale. Later on the fame tax should be the bigger part.
Astasia Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:14pm 
My "meadow" with minimal effort put into it and only a rank 4 hearth, earns over 5k income per month in salary alone. Property wealth is only 9.7k, I have a barebones base and no land extensions.

I've heard the annual increase caps out at 5k (or 5 years?). That said in both my runs I'm over 500 days into the game, with over 50 hours played in each, and I haven't seen any sign of this annual tax increase.

You do get 500 increased taxes per plot you own, so well into year 2 I am paying 1k base tax, but that's because I own two plots.

Tax is not an issue in this game, you really don't need to worry about it.
Last edited by Astasia; Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:14pm
internetgrout Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:16pm 
As you level the hearthstone you can add the resident tax. Also rank up in the 4 guilds, they add to your salary based on rank
Bloodyboo12 Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:37pm 
You can make some crazy passive income and then only build on that by just playing. I am on year 3 sitting on 500K in the bank unsure what I want to do with it.
Iyasenu Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:
You can make some crazy passive income and then only build on that by just playing. I am on year 3 sitting on 500K in the bank unsure what I want to do with it.
Hmm...
You could pay even MORE taxes!

Pfft, but no really, you can just find a secretary in a town (or assign one of your citizens as your Maid) and request to pay additional taxes.
It's basically turning your spare Oren into extra gold bars.

Well, maybe you don't want to, but that's at least something to do with it, once you start running low on things Oren can buy.
Bloodyboo12 Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by Iyasenu:
Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:
You can make some crazy passive income and then only build on that by just playing. I am on year 3 sitting on 500K in the bank unsure what I want to do with it.
Hmm...
You could pay even MORE taxes!

Pfft, but no really, you can just find a secretary in a town (or assign one of your citizens as your Maid) and request to pay additional taxes.
It's basically turning your spare Oren into extra gold bars.

Well, maybe you don't want to, but that's at least something to do with it, once you start running low on things Oren can buy.

I would but it makes me furious that the gold bars you get from that dont stack with the normal ones, so I am choosing not to even though I really need gold bars since a maxed plot takes thousands.
Iyasenu Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:
Originally posted by Iyasenu:
Hmm...
You could pay even MORE taxes!

Pfft, but no really, you can just find a secretary in a town (or assign one of your citizens as your Maid) and request to pay additional taxes.
It's basically turning your spare Oren into extra gold bars.

Well, maybe you don't want to, but that's at least something to do with it, once you start running low on things Oren can buy.

I would but it makes me furious that the gold bars you get from that dont stack with the normal ones, so I am choosing not to even though I really need gold bars since a maxed plot takes thousands.
Good old "gold" bars of copper.
Valdig Nov 20, 2024 @ 8:37pm 
Originally posted by Iyasenu:
Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:

I would but it makes me furious that the gold bars you get from that dont stack with the normal ones, so I am choosing not to even though I really need gold bars since a maxed plot takes thousands.
Good old "gold" bars of copper.
100% the "worthless fake gold bars" so common in elona.
LuckyToShoot Nov 20, 2024 @ 9:10pm 
The 500 annually tax increase will cap out at like 2.5k~3k i dont remember, but after that it stops, so u can definitely keep up and will only get easier from there on out once u have the right infrastructures going.
Akameka Nov 21, 2024 @ 12:45am 
Increase base tax by 500 annually is crazy
Making the game feel so stressful

Ha ! Jokes on you, I am half a year in and already paying 6k per month (mostly because of fame)

That being said, Vernis mine pay more than double than that in only a few days, and will recharge about twice per month or so.

Gemstones from the mine ? 10-12k (worth 70+ each)
Minecarts from the first 3 levels ? 4-8k (worth 375+ each)
Even the bumpers at the end of the rails sell for 75 each and are easy to grab.

And if I need it, Acqui Teola is not even at 1 day of walk, there are always tons of adventurer there to spawn nefias of my level, and I can spam kill, exterminate and war/monster den quests there to rack tons of money

Tax isn't really a problem, you'll find plenty of ways to make lots of money as you keep playing. And you can ask on the forum if you don't =)
Last edited by Akameka; Nov 21, 2024 @ 12:49am
Arlian Nov 21, 2024 @ 4:38am 
If you're struggling with tax you can try focusing on passive income methods such as farming, mass production of goods, tourism and lodging revenue, salaries from guilds and settlement ranking income.

All of my passive income from the above combined provides me with roughly 70k every month and my tax is 5k (base + fame) and I would consider my character in the 'mid-game'. I've mainly focused on passive income production so a more combat focused character might be less, but it's still relatively easy to get enough passive going that you can cover the tax.
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