loosing items to fire or ice as a mechanic sucks major ass

[procdrone]

i said it. either stack crazy amount of blankets or loose all your inventory and tools.

[Suwako]

I think it's alright. Most items you can lose from Fire/Ice/Acid are common non named items, that are usually reasonably easy to replace, especially if you invested in a blacksmith or even spam lv2 dungeons.

It also creates a priority system that spices up combat. Going after your intended target might be swapped for killing a hellhound rushing your little girl who's wearing a paper helmet, grass long sword, and plastic shield. Heck, you might even try to step out of the way so you have more time to kill the hellhound while he melts her face and her garbage gear to save your own slightly-better-than-garbage wood helmet.

Later on you walk into a room, press auto combat, and your character decimates everything, move to the next room. Enjoy the struggle, early to mid game seething is the most fun.

[procdrone]

Originally posted by Suwako:

I think it's alright. Most items you can lose from Fire/Ice/Acid are common non named items, that are usually reasonably easy to replace, especially if you invested in a blacksmith or even spam lv2 dungeons.

It also creates a priority system that spices up combat. Going after your intended target might be swapped for killing a hellhound rushing your little girl who's wearing a paper helmet, grass long sword, and plastic shield. Heck, you might even try to step out of the way so you have more time to kill the hellhound while he melts her face and her garbage gear to save your own slightly-better-than-garbage wood helmet.

Later on you walk into a room, press auto combat, and your character decimates everything, move to the next room. Enjoy the struggle, early to mid game seething is the most fun.

I lost all my tools and 3/4 of my backpack to two apprentice mages and ragequit, its annoying. blankets are quite expensive to produce and have extremly limited charges. in combat where you keep missing ; these protections are very temporary.

[Suwako]

My current character has a tiny bit over 100 hours of play time. I can count on both hands how many tools and equipment i've lost to fire/ice and i've NEVER carried any towels on me.

You are very clearly doing something wrong, or not prioritizing enemies correctly.

If push comes to shove, you dont need to carry your pickaxe, watering can, and hoe with you. Leave them at your house when you go out and take them out when you're specifically going to use them.

alternatively, focus on what you're doing wrong. Enemies that can destroy my stuff usually dont even get an attack out, and at most one attack, MAYBE two if I mess up. Enemies that cause serious gear damage are usually fairly weak too- at least the ones you encounter frequently. Magic early game is super strong so using it to kill these dangerous enemies means that by mid to late game you'll be so proficient in using that one spell that you should always have a way to 1-2 shot these enemies.

[Explicitly Offensive Cuneiform]

Originally posted by procdrone:

i said it. either stack crazy amount of blankets or loose all your inventory and tools.

There are liquids you can coat an item with to make them immune to those effects.

It sucks, but this is a core aspect of elona.

[procdrone]

i know you can protect from acid with the acidproof potions, but fire? cold? never met other prevention methods than blankets.

[.//slayer]

Originally posted by procdrone:

I lost all my tools and 3/4 of my backpack to two apprentice mages and ragequit, its annoying. blankets are quite expensive to produce and have extremly limited charges. in combat where you keep missing ; these protections are very temporary.

It's not as big a deal as it seems. Your gear is usually fireproof by default, and whatever potions, scrolls and books you lose to the fire, you can easily recover in the very next random dungeon. Their supply is essentially unlimited, and you don't need every scroll in the game to progress.

Just roll with it.

[procdrone]

Originally posted by .//slayer:

Originally posted by procdrone:

I lost all my tools and 3/4 of my backpack to two apprentice mages and ragequit, its annoying. blankets are quite expensive to produce and have extremly limited charges. in combat where you keep missing ; these protections are very temporary.

It's not as big a deal as it seems. Your gear is usually fireproof by default, and whatever potions, scrolls and books you lose to the fire, you can easily recover in the very next random dungeon. Their supply is essentially unlimited, and you don't need every scroll in the game to progress.

Just roll with it.

thats not true, i had all obsidian tools and no way im replacing that easily.

[Drakaden]

Cold is the only real issue there because you absolutely need blankets to protect them.

Fireproof, you can craft items out of materials that are fireproof, example: Carbone wood, which is made from burning logs in the kiln.

Disassembling junk made of dragon scale (Use yer bronze coins in junk gacha), which in turn you can craft for fireproof and acidproof textiles, which you can give in turn to Kettle to duplicate them, which in turn you can make pouches that are fireproof and acidproof, hence your containers will never get burnt and in turn, you won't lose everything inside of them.

Stones? Most are fireproof, there might even be some that are acidproof in there.

Metal? Fireproof and sometimes acidproof as well.

Make your tools out of stuff that can't burn, and if you got acidproof potion, right click them and click BLEND, then acidpprof your gear to your heart content, lacking those potions? Go train yer pick pocketting in Derphy and gather a ton of good loot, including acidproof potions. Deep in negative karma and want back in the favors of the law? Go to the Derphy quest board, do musical performance, crop gathering and enemies killing quests, reset board with influence you get from them, rince and repeat until yer back at 0 karma, and during the trip there you'll have gathered a lot of board rewards, win-win.

So go ahead, plan yer stuff properly, and you'll only have to worry about cold element, it take a few hours for sure, but the effort is worth the result.

Oh and don't forget, you got a save and load feature, save before you try to RNG something like a gacha junk item for example, you'll save yourself a ton of troubles.

[Suwako]

Just dont bring high value things you aren't using with you unless you need them. Just like you wouldn't bring your grandmas expensive china plates to a monstertruck destruction derby, dont bring your Obsidian pickaxe to ⸤Cave of ice cold fiery Putit acid bath⸣ unless you're going to mine ore for crafting. Bring a crappy granite one to break blocked paths in dungeons instead.

[procdrone]

Originally posted by Suwako:

Just dont bring high value things you aren't using with you unless you need them. Just like you wouldn't bring your grandmas expensive china plates to a monstertruck destruction derby, dont bring your Obsidian pickaxe to ⸤Cave of ice cold fiery Putit acid bath⸣ unless you're going to mine ore for crafting. Bring a crappy granite one to break blocked paths in dungeons instead.

The thing is any dungeon can have the ores, and they can despawn before i can get back, but alas. i suppose the goal is to somehow get all my bags fireproof so my inventory doesnt explode any time i fight a fire enemy, and stack ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of cold blankets.

Wish it would be possible to upgrade the standard backpack though. juggling inventory is going to be insane. unless fireproofing a bag doesnt protect the items inside, i wouldnt put it past this game to do that, then its just crazy.

[Suwako]

Try this mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3358087279

It makes tools like blankets stackable so it only takes up one space.

The backpack is small, I believe you're ment to carry multiple packs. You can use the boxes you get shipments in to store items in as if it was a backpack. On your equipment bar, to the left there are empty slots. I use those to hold my extra bags.

Your ability to mine depends on your mining level and pick hardness. If you level up your mining you won't have to use your rare materials to make pickaxes to be able to mine good ores. Ultimately you'll be mining the casino for rubynus Which is also a fireproof material.

Like I said, I have a character with over 100 hours and this has never been such an abhorrent issue like you describe. I don't even carry blankets on me. These are the most viable and easy to use solutions I can think of.

If money for the blankets is an issue you can preform at the casino, this will increase your charisma, of which you'll want lv50 of so you can get all 5 pet slots anyways.

Good luck.

[procdrone]

my comment about the backpack was mostly about being able to upgrade it to be fire and acid proof. you cant do that sadly. i do carry bags to extend my inventory.

[Mia Ishata]

I just lost all my supplies to a singular red firemage and im positivly miffed about it. I have no way of getting any kind of protective bags right now so being faced with that at a level 11 danger dungeon is kinda ass.

[JustAPosition]

You don't really need to use the fire blankets. I use a backpack to hold my valuable burnable items with a fire blanket in but whenever I see an enemy I just toss my backpack on the ground and engage, making sure to keep the fire attacks away from my backpack on the ground. The fire blanket in the back is just a precaution in case the flames spread to the loose bag.

It is a bit tedious to always have to run back and pick up your bag but it is better than having everything turned to ash. However ever since doing this I've only lost 1 bags worth of stuff...so it works for me at least.

[AvG]

although rare you can watch for the god of earth's golden statue which rewards you with a random magic hammer tool. whatever type the tool is, if it is a naturally fire/acid immune type you can transform one piece of your gear to that material type. its usually in cave dungeons, but i think ive seen it elsewhere. i have to do this typically on the cape to protect it.