Bathroom Stall Hourglass

[OhRoBro]

I know the hourglasses replace the Hourglass Dogs, and I assume there's no real point to tapping them... but it's genuinely driving me nuts that I can't reach the Hourglass in the bathroom stall. I got the one that's hiding in the dark area just fine, but the one in the stall, for the Dog that you have to crouch on the chair for, I can't reach no matter what the Hourglass Dog guides say.

Is the stall door just not programmed to open if you aren't on the Supporter Edition? Does tapping each hourglass even accomplish anything? Even if it doesn't, I feel I'm being robbed of the satisfaction of succeeding at all the hourglass dog secrets. Plus, I actually did the secret for the cloud dog, and it worked despite not being on Supporter Edition, it's just that the cloud is empty. so I assume this stall door dog secret should work without the dog too right? what am I messing up?

most guides say to "sit" on the chair, or crouch on it, and stay there for a few minutes. am i not allowed to move my mouse? do i gotta stay perfectly still and not shift around? do i gotta be perfectly centered on the chair? the Russian/English guide says its a 5 minute wait, is it really 5 minutes, or is that just a guess? please send help, i wanna poke the hour glass so baaaaad

[Boromir, Son of Faramir]

Tapping the hourglasses doesn't do anything, I know because I've had to re-visit secret areas to collect the dogs after upgrading to the Supporter edition.

Also, one of the hourglasses, the one up on the boat, isn't even in the place where you pick up the dog; when you get the Supporter edition, there's nothing there and you have to climb higher up to the top of the ship to get the dog. So it wouldn't surprise me if no hourglass appears if you sit on the chair, since the hourglasses and dogs are not hard-linked.
EDIT: Though it is surprising that the Stall Door secret wouldn't work at all without the Supporter Edition.

[OhRoBro]

Originally posted by Boromir, Son of Faramir:

Tapping the hourglasses doesn't do anything, I know because I've had to re-visit secret areas to collect the dogs after upgrading to the Supporter edition.

Also, one of the hourglasses, the one up on the boat, isn't even in the place where you pick up the dog; when you get the Supporter edition, there's nothing there and you have to climb higher up to the top of the ship to get the dog. So it wouldn't surprise me if no hourglass appears if you sit on the chair, since the hourglasses and dogs are not hard-linked.
EDIT: Though it is surprising that the Stall Door secret wouldn't work at all without the Supporter Edition.

the hour glass can be seen through the little window in the wall between stalls, which makes it even more agonizing that the door won't open :'(

[Boromir, Son of Faramir]

what the hell that's evil lmao

[Boromir, Son of Faramir]

I got the stall dog recently, can't help you figure out if you need to sit perfectly centered unfortunately, but I basically did that + hold crouch on the chair for what felt like 5 mins, left the stall and the dog stall opened. Since I was holding crouch the whole time I really doubt you need to do it for more than 5ish minutes, otherwise my hand would've been quite sore.

[OhRoBro]

Originally posted by Boromir, Son of Faramir:

I got the stall dog recently, can't help you figure out if you need to sit perfectly centered unfortunately, but I basically did that + hold crouch on the chair for what felt like 5 mins, left the stall and the dog stall opened. Since I was holding crouch the whole time I really doubt you need to do it for more than 5ish minutes, otherwise my hand would've been quite sore.

did the dog's door only open when you left the stall? im guessing you didnt specifically time it, but if i need to like, walk out within thirty seconds of hitting the five minute mark, then that'd be evil, but doable. if all that matters is staying crouched on it for more than 5 minutes though, then i already did that. regardless, thanks for the sharing.

also i have more questions, did you do it as drunk ena or regular ena? (you can walk away from the well after the theodora cutscene, which means ena would have recovered and returned to normal by that point. even lets you knock and interact with stuff, though it doesnt accomplish anything i think other than there being a section of lockers with interesting text tied to it in case you didnt know...)

did you move your mouse at all during the five minutes? scooch around in the chair even?

[Boromir, Son of Faramir]

Unless my eyes played tricks on me, I was pretty sure I saw a door to the right open as I left the stall, because otherwise I had just given up, since I was expecting the door of the stall on the opposite side of the room to have opened (the one you face by staring straight ahead by sitting on the chair). I distinctly remember thanking myself for not having waited any longer because of that.
Is there seriously no video footage of this being done yet, though?

I didn't move the mouse or scooch in the chair until I started feeling antsy about having waited for what felt like a couple minutes, and I left the stall less than a minute after.

I definitely did it as drunk ena, but wow I didn't think to go back and interact after the cutscene, I'll need to do that sometime, thanks.

[OhRoBro]

Originally posted by Boromir, Son of Faramir:

Unless my eyes played tricks on me, I was pretty sure I saw a door to the right open as I left the stall, because otherwise I had just given up, since I was expecting the door of the stall on the opposite side of the room to have opened (the one you face by staring straight ahead by sitting on the chair). I distinctly remember thanking myself for not having waited any longer because of that.
Is there seriously no video footage of this being done yet, though?

Every video i saw either skipped or fast forwarded, saying to just wait a couple minutes, so yeah, no idea what the precise amount of time is or the door is even capable of opening without supporter edition. thanks for all the information though, i'll probably give it another shot eventually! and thanks for sharing your experience, much appreciated