METAL GEAR & METAL GEAR 2: Solid Snake

METAL GEAR & METAL GEAR 2: Solid Snake

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Sascha Sep 24, 2023 @ 2:32am 
Keyboard support was confirmed at tokyo game show 2023:

https://twitter.com/MGSMGN/status/1705863752753787361
Last edited by Sascha; Sep 24, 2023 @ 2:33am
Sean8102 Oct 7, 2023 @ 4:08pm 
To each their own of course. And the more options the better. But I just can't imagine playing metal gear solid games on mouse and keyboard. I know it's awful with the old MGS 2 PC port. Thankfully a fan patch adds x-input support. But we'll see.
Last edited by Sean8102; Oct 7, 2023 @ 4:08pm
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 8:34am 
if keyboard/mouse support isnt for all the games in the bundle (roms or ports), then they shouldnt be on pc, this is a pc platform, its expected that keyboard/mouse is default supported input.
Afevis Solmunko Oct 15, 2023 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
if keyboard/mouse support isnt for all the games in the bundle (roms or ports), then they shouldnt be on pc, this is a pc platform, its expected that keyboard/mouse is default supported input.
Did you not read the thread bro? It was already added and folks confirmed it at tgs
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Oct 15, 2023 @ 8:59am
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:03am 
did you read it? some with full or partial keyboard/mouse support, others with no keyboard/mouse support.

all of them should have keyboard/mouse support, this is a pc platform....

the first 2 games are likely roms and emulated, did they make the emulator? cause i havent seen an emulator without keyboard/mouse support (well all the common ones).

as for ports, there is no reason why a company cant port a console game to pc... on a pc platform, without making the effort to add keyboard/mouse support.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:11am
Afevis Solmunko Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
did you read it? some with full or partial keyboard/mouse support, others with no keyboard/mouse support.

all of them should have keyboard/mouse support this is a pc platform....
All of them have keyboard support at a minimum, how the ♥♥♥♥ do you want them to implement mice with NES games? Think about what you just said for a second lol
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:12am
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
did you read it? some with full or partial keyboard/mouse support, others with no keyboard/mouse support.

all of them should have keyboard/mouse support, this is a pc platform....
All of them have keyboard support, how the ♥♥♥♥ do you want them to implement mice with NES games? Think about what you just said for a second lol

its a rom on an emulator, do you think they remade the game.... emulators have been giving old nes/ect.. games keyboard and mouse support for decades.

:steamfacepalm:
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:13am
Afevis Solmunko Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
All of them have keyboard support, how the ♥♥♥♥ do you want them to implement mice with NES games? Think about what you just said for a second lol

its a rom on an emulator, do you think they remade the game.... emulators have been giving old nes/ect.. games keyboard and mouse support for decades.
What the hell are you on about? How do you play a NES game with a mouse????? Please explain.

Keyboard support IS already added for them
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:15am
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

its a rom on an emulator, do you think they remade the game.... emulators have been giving old nes/ect.. games keyboard and mouse support for decades.
What the hell are you on about? How do you use a NES game with a mouse????? Please explain.

Keyboard support IS already added for them

easily, go try it....

anywho, as i said, emulation has been giving old console games keyboard and mouse support for decades.

edit: it said some with full or partial support, others with none.

edit: adding to this, look at other game bundles they have released for older console games, they were all emulated, so unless they made their own without keyboard/mouse support, either/or for some awful reason disabled that support, then there is zero reason to not have said keyboard/mouse support.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:24am
Afevis Solmunko Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
What the hell are you on about? How do you use a NES game with a mouse????? Please explain.

Keyboard support IS already added for them

easily, go try it....

anywho, as i said, emulation has been giving old console games keyboard and mouse support for decades.

edit: it said some with full or partial support, others with none.
How do you want them to implement mouse support for a NES gamepad? That literally makes no sense, there IS keyboard support

Here's the literal quote from the article.

"Metal Gear Solid, as well as the MSX and NES games, will only receive keyboard support, as these are either 2D games or barely use a first-person mode. Metal Gear Solid 2 will primarily get keyboard controls but with some mouse support. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the only game in the collection that will have keyboard and mouse support. "

All of them have keyboard support.

MGS1 has no first person aiming, so it's keyboard only. That makes sense.

MGS2 has LIMITED support, ie it DOES have mouse support while doing first person aiming, but the camera is normally in a fixed position, so you can use the mouse to aim but that's it.

MGS3 has FULL support, in that it has a fully moveable camera, because it's the subsistence version. In other words, you can use the mouse to both control aiming, as well as move the camera.
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:23am
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

easily, go try it....

anywho, as i said, emulation has been giving old console games keyboard and mouse support for decades.

edit: it said some with full or partial support, others with none.
How do you want them to implement mouse support for a NES gamepad? That literally makes no sense, there IS keyboard support

Here's the literal quote from the article.

"Metal Gear Solid, as well as the MSX and NES games, will only receive keyboard support, as these are either 2D games or barely use a first-person mode. Metal Gear Solid 2 will primarily get keyboard controls but with some mouse support. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the only game in the collection that will have keyboard and mouse support. "

All of them have keyboard support.

MGS1 has no first person aiming, so it's keyboard only. That makes sense.

MGS2 has LIMITED support, ie it DOES have mouse support while doing first person aiming, but the camera is normally in a fixed position, so you can use the mouse to aim but that's it.

MGS3 has FULL support, in that it has a fully moveable camera, because it's the subsistence version. In other words, you can use the mouse to both control aiming, as well as move the camera.

tf does a game pad have to do with a keyboard and mouse, you make zero sense....

emulators, which these games will likely use, all have keyboard and mouse support, thus said inputs can be mapped and used in game(s), not including this is a pc platform for pc games, keyboard and mouse support is expected.

so im assuming and by your link/copy pasta you are saying all of these below have "full" keyboard and mouse support? i dont see all of them listed or mentioned in either the link or your copy/pasta.

vol 1

Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
Metal Gear Solid (Including VR Missions/Special Missions)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (HD Collection version)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (HD Collection version)
Metal Gear (NES/FC version)
Snake's Revenge

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answer is, they dont and should have full keyboard and mouse support.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:34am
Afevis Solmunko Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
How do you want them to implement mouse support for a NES gamepad? That literally makes no sense, there IS keyboard support

Here's the literal quote from the article.

"Metal Gear Solid, as well as the MSX and NES games, will only receive keyboard support, as these are either 2D games or barely use a first-person mode. Metal Gear Solid 2 will primarily get keyboard controls but with some mouse support. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the only game in the collection that will have keyboard and mouse support. "

All of them have keyboard support.

MGS1 has no first person aiming, so it's keyboard only. That makes sense.

MGS2 has LIMITED support, ie it DOES have mouse support while doing first person aiming, but the camera is normally in a fixed position, so you can use the mouse to aim but that's it.

MGS3 has FULL support, in that it has a fully moveable camera, because it's the subsistence version. In other words, you can use the mouse to both control aiming, as well as move the camera.

tf does a game pad have to do with a keyboard and mouse, you make zero sense....

emulators, which these games will likely use, all have keyboard and mouse support, thus said inputs can be mapped and used in game(s), not including this is a pc platform for pc games, keyboard and mouse support is expected.

so im assuming and by your link/copy pasta you are saying all of these below have "full" keyboard and mouse support? i dont see all of them listed or mentioned in either the link or your copy/pasta.

vol 1

Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
Metal Gear Solid (Including VR Missions/Special Missions)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (HD Collection version)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (HD Collection version)
Metal Gear (NES/FC version)
Snake's Revenge

-----------------

answer is, they dont and should have full keyboard and mouse support.
Read the article.

"Metal Gear Solid, as well as the MSX and NES games, will only receive keyboard support, as these are either 2D games or barely use a first-person mode. Metal Gear Solid 2 will primarily get keyboard controls but with some mouse support. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the only game in the collection that will have keyboard and mouse support. "

Metal Gear - MSX game - article says MSX games, keyboard support
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - MSX game, article says MSX games, keyboard support
Metal Gear Solid (Including VR Missions/Special Missions) - Article says keyboard support, as it has no first person aiming
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (HD Collection version) - Article says limited support, in that the mouse is used for first person aiming, the game has a fixed camera so there's really no other sections to implement the mouse for
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (HD Collection version) - full support, it has a 3d camera and you can move it around - it's a third person shooter more or less.
Metal Gear (NES/FC version) - NES game, article says keyboard support
Snake's Revenge - NES game, article says keyboard support
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:37am
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

tf does a game pad have to do with a keyboard and mouse, you make zero sense....

emulators, which these games will likely use, all have keyboard and mouse support, thus said inputs can be mapped and used in game(s), not including this is a pc platform for pc games, keyboard and mouse support is expected.

so im assuming and by your link/copy pasta you are saying all of these below have "full" keyboard and mouse support? i dont see all of them listed or mentioned in either the link or your copy/pasta.

vol 1

Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
Metal Gear Solid (Including VR Missions/Special Missions)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (HD Collection version)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (HD Collection version)
Metal Gear (NES/FC version)
Snake's Revenge

-----------------

answer is, they dont and should have full keyboard and mouse support.
Read the article.

"Metal Gear Solid, as well as the MSX and NES games, will only receive keyboard support, as these are either 2D games or barely use a first-person mode. Metal Gear Solid 2 will primarily get keyboard controls but with some mouse support. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the only game in the collection that will have keyboard and mouse support. "

Metal Gear - MSX game - article says MSX games, keyboard support
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - MSX game, article says MSX games, keyboard support
Metal Gear Solid (Including VR Missions/Special Missions) - Article says keyboard support, as it has no first person aiming
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (HD Collection version) - Article says limited support, in that the mouse is used for first person aiming, the game has a fixed camera so there's really no other sections to implement the mouse for
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (HD Collection version) - full support, it has a 3d camera and you can move it around - it's a third person shooter more or less.
Metal Gear (NES/FC version) - NES game, article says keyboard support
Snake's Revenge - NES game, article says keyboard support

as i said, they all dont have "full" keyboard/mouse support, something that is expected on a pc, in a pc platform.

let alone any of them that are emulated... as i said, all emulators have keyboard/mouse support, for all the games on each of them, no reason why any of these cant have both.

i have played tons of controller games, on emulation.... and all of them can have controls mapped to w/e input device you want, be it joysticks, controllers, keyboards, mice, w/e...

so, they are likely, purposely disabling support for either/or, on specific games, for no reason.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:48am
Afevis Solmunko Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:47am 
You have yet to answer my question, how do you play a NES game with a mouse? Like what do you actually do with it lol
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:47am
MonkehMaster Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
You have yet to answer my question, how do you play a NES game with a mouse? Like what do you actually do with it lol

how about trying it yourself, or googling a video of it, or... im not here to explain everything for you.

i mean, is the concept of mapping keys to other buttons foreign to you lol?

anywho, they need to have full support for both, end of story.
Last edited by MonkehMaster; Oct 15, 2023 @ 9:51am
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