METAL GEAR SOLID 3: Snake Eater - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID 3: Snake Eater - Master Collection Version

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Nico Nico Knee Nov 12, 2023 @ 12:13am
Controls did not age well
Was so excited to stream this, hyped it up for weeks then try to play it for an hour and have to refund it because i am ass at it, i just cant play it
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🖤Lyra🖤 Nov 12, 2023 @ 2:08am 
I agree even though i got used to the controls and it comes down to a couple of reasons as to why the controls have aged poorly in the modern day.

Firstly The PlayStation controllers of the time had a limited number of buttons, making it challenging to map all actions intuitively. This led to situations where players had to perform intricate tasks using a combination of buttons, sometimes leading to confusion and awkwardness.

Also, Metal Gear Solid games often employed a context-sensitive control scheme, where the same button would perform different actions based on the situation. While this approach added depth to the gameplay, it also contributed to a steep learning curve and occasional confusion, as players had to adapt to various scenarios with limited visual cues.

Lastly, The control schemes in MGS1, MGS2, and MGS3 were designed during a period when gaming standards and expectations were still evolving. As the industry progressed, player expectations for more intuitive controls increased. The control schemes in these earlier Metal Gear Solid games may feel awkward when compared to contemporary standards.

I would recommend that you take your time to learn the controls and endure the learning process as these older metal gear titles offer an amazing story and worlds for you to enjoy it has a somewhat steep learning curve but it's not impossible to quickly pick up on what each button does on your controller. Furthermore you can watch guides on youtube to teach you how to play these older titles with providing tips and tricks.
Last edited by 🖤Lyra🖤; Nov 12, 2023 @ 2:13am
LJ Nov 12, 2023 @ 3:40am 
It was a time before controls became more homogenized and games had their own "feel" to them. If you have patience and take the time to learn them they will be like 2nd nature.
Winnie Nov 12, 2023 @ 5:18am 
it doesnt but the game still balance around it, its not broken by any means. Quite the contrary, if you try to mod the game into a modern type controller scheme, I can assure you the entire game will be a cake walk

Try read up a guide on how to control better.
Kyo Tanaka Nov 12, 2023 @ 5:26am 
When you play again, play on easy. The game is at least balanced around it's aged control scheme, you just need to get comfortable in playing the game. It's going to take a moment to get used to since it is a far cry of how modern games are controlled

I shared your frustration but give it time, it at least makes sense even if it's dated compared to 4 and beyond. I mean if you're on a controller that is, ♥♥♥♥ how they made the keyboard controls
Last edited by Kyo Tanaka; Nov 12, 2023 @ 6:21am
Deathraven13 Nov 12, 2023 @ 7:20am 
IIt's an old video game so you just need time to adapt, at first I was like "damn I'm so rusted I can't aim properly at all" and now it's like I no scope them.

In the end you do what you want.
Nuclear Kangaroo Nov 12, 2023 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Chaimsaw™:
Was so excited to stream this, hyped it up for weeks then try to play it for an hour and have to refund it because i am ass at it, i just cant play it

you shouldve stuck with it, at first the controls take a while to get used to, but as you keep playing they become almost second nature, the game is designed around em, and after you understand how to play, you are almost never fighting against the controls

heck they actually grant you a lot of freedom on how to proceed
Dippy the Ghost! Nov 12, 2023 @ 1:46pm 
It's not even the same controls as the original though.
Nico Nico Knee Nov 12, 2023 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Minty:
It's not even the same controls as the original though.
Is it not?
Kyo Tanaka Nov 12, 2023 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Chaimsaw™:
Originally posted by Minty:
It's not even the same controls as the original though.
Is it not?
It's largely the same but some things had to be changed around.

Square used to be aim AND fire. You press it lightly to ready and hold your gun out, let go softly to not fire. Push all the way and it'll fire. I imagine interrogate was also lightly hold square

Aiming functionality was moved to L3. The only weapon that relied on this feature, the coolant, was moved to the right stick to emulate pressure sensitivity. Since the right stick had no function in 2 outside of HF Blade, it was probably done that way.
Lucrei Nov 13, 2023 @ 2:08am 
You've just got to get used to them.

I had no idea what I was doing when I first played, was basically a pro by the end of that initial playthrough back on PS2.
Matt11 Nov 13, 2023 @ 2:57am 
The controls felt fine to me.
jpcarsmedia Nov 13, 2023 @ 8:25am 
Controls feel good, it's just weird to me how Snake can only crouch when standing still. If you move while crouching, you'll go prone.
Kyo Tanaka Nov 13, 2023 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by jpcarsmedia:
Controls feel good, it's just weird to me how Snake can only crouch when standing still. If you move while crouching, you'll go prone.
Product of it's time, it was originally made to be played like 2. Later games don't have that problem thankfully.

Zoft and TriggerHappy are making a mod that makes crouch walking a new action you can do. Keep an eye on it's updates, they are doing amazing work with the project
Freaksay Nov 18, 2023 @ 11:29am 
My brother in christ maybe try reading the game manual and learn the controls ? Your comment has not aged well :Ocelot:
Deathraven13 Nov 18, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
After playing MGS 1 & 3 I just started playing MGS2 and the controls feel bad at first, but I'm just rusted so after some time I get the hang of it and now it's fine since I have adapted, since they play a bit differently it do take a bit of time to get used to it, once you do tho it's pretty good.
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