METAL GEAR SOLID 3: Snake Eater - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID 3: Snake Eater - Master Collection Version

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Gironda Curls Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:34am
(!) pressure sensitive buttons (!)
Dude, come on (!)

Can we upvote this so Konami will actually add them back in?

I'm so sick of these lackluster ports.
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Kyo Tanaka Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:44am 
1. What controllers nowadays have pressure sensitive buttons?

2. If it's a niche controller (PS3), it's not going to work properly on PC. In that case, for controllers like that to work then, you'll have to emulate them to be Xbox 360 controllers. This is how Steam Input makes said controllers functional.

3. In which case, that would defeat the purpose since 360 controllers does not have pressure sensitive buttons, putting you back at square 1.

4. Let's say you found the perfect controller that works on PC with no issues and has proper pressure sensitive buttons. How niche is it? How much dollars do we have to shell out for ONE controller that's going to work on 3 games at most (MGS2, 3, and 4 if and when that one happens).

You wanting Konami to be 100% authentic will make the game unplayable for 99% of the playerbase. I think axing Pressure Sensitive buttons at that point is justified. Still want pressure buttons? I have a much better solution for you:

https://pcsx2.net/
Luna ~ Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:46am 
tbh the only modern controller with pressure button is actually the steam deck Lmao.
But yeah no modern controller has them
=WARDOG= Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:49am 
presure sensitivy was horrible. MGS3d did it better by having the Dpad be the actions you could do
Gironda Curls Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:
1. What controllers nowadays have pressure sensitive buttons?

2. If it's a niche controller (PS3), it's not going to work properly on PC. In that case, for controllers like that to work then, you'll have to emulate them to be Xbox 360 controllers. This is how Steam Input makes said controllers functional.

3. In which case, that would defeat the purpose since 360 controllers does not have pressure sensitive buttons, putting you back at square 1.

4. Let's say you found the perfect controller that works on PC with no issues and has proper pressure sensitive buttons. How niche is it? How much dollars do we have to shell out for ONE controller that's going to work on 3 games at most (MGS2, 3, and 4 if and when that one happens).

You wanting Konami to be 100% authentic will make the game unplayable for 99% of the playerbase. I think axing Pressure Sensitive buttons at that point is justified. Still want pressure buttons? I have a much better solution for you:

https://pcsx2.net/

Pressure-sensitive face buttons are a type of buttons found on certain gaming controllers, such as PlayStation controllers from the PS2 and PS3 generations and first Xbox.

Also with the way game controllers are built now you can find workarounds for it. You can essentially emulate the process. And I believe the PlayStation 4 buttons are pressure sensitive with their L2 and R2 layouts, not including the L1 and L2.
Kyo Tanaka Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Gironda Curls:

Also with the way game controllers are built now you can find workarounds for it. You can essentially emulate the process.
No, no you can not. If that was possible, it wouldn't have been removed in the first place. Where are you getting this delusional take from?
Ocelot Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
I just want to be able to aim the damn AK or other automatic without firing it off like a moron.
Ocelot Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
I don't care how it gets done^
Kyo Tanaka Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Ocelot:
I just want to be able to aim the damn AK or other automatic without firing it off like a moron.
Click the left stick to ready your weapon. In FPV, hold L1 to aim down iron sights with your weapon (provided they have sights). When you stop firing, you put your weapon down.
Draconic Creature Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:
Originally posted by Gironda Curls:

Also with the way game controllers are built now you can find workarounds for it. You can essentially emulate the process.
No, no you can not. If that was possible, it wouldn't have been removed in the first place. Where are you getting this delusional take from?
Hmm, I mean, you could potentially do it if you dedicate one input to be entirely a "half-input" modifier for every other input, like the mentioned one of bringing the gun up but not firing it until fully pressed.
Probably wouldn't work for aiming and firing actually, now that I think about it, but for anything else where you don't need to go between half press and full press rapidly, it could work...
Ocelot Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:
Originally posted by Ocelot:
I just want to be able to aim the damn AK or other automatic without firing it off like a moron.
Click the left stick to ready your weapon. In FPV, hold L1 to aim down iron sights with your weapon (provided they have sights). When you stop firing, you put your weapon down.

Thank you I will give this a try.
neon.wir Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Draconic Creature:
Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:
No, no you can not. If that was possible, it wouldn't have been removed in the first place. Where are you getting this delusional take from?
Hmm, I mean, you could potentially do it if you dedicate one input to be entirely a "half-input" modifier for every other input, like the mentioned one of bringing the gun up but not firing it until fully pressed.
Probably wouldn't work for aiming and firing actually, now that I think about it, but for anything else where you don't need to go between half press and full press rapidly, it could work...
But that's still a binary solution.
Luna ~ Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
the only solution that wouldnt be a half measure or awkward would literally just be playing on steam deck and get the experience on steam deck since its the only modern controller/device with that feature
Last edited by Luna ~; Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:51pm
svoulzor Oct 25, 2023 @ 1:22pm 
Play on the pcsx2 and put the shot and melee buttons on the triggers and you have pressure buttons.
Kyo Tanaka Oct 25, 2023 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by svoulzor:
Play on the pcsx2 and put the shot and melee buttons on the triggers and you have pressure buttons.
That emulator supports pressure buttons though?
Stargazer Oct 25, 2023 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:
Originally posted by svoulzor:
Play on the pcsx2 and put the shot and melee buttons on the triggers and you have pressure buttons.
That emulator supports pressure buttons though?
PCSX2 does support pressure sensitive buttons. Been using it that way for a long time with my DS3.
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