METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

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Exdeath Apr 19, 2024 @ 8:38am
White Blood?
i own the original and im damn sure there wasnt censored white blood in it.
How can i turn that crap off?

Im really Angry
Last edited by Exdeath; Apr 19, 2024 @ 8:50am
Originally posted by Odann':
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Exdeath:
Yeah, but thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, censorship in games in germany is pretty much dead After video games where declaired as art in 2016, i dont remember who exactly said it, but i know what they said:

" Videogames are Art and blood is part of that Art. If we would ban every Art that shows blood then we would have to ban the Nibelungen Sage, the most german legend there is, with Siegfried bathing in the Blood of the slayed Dragon Fafnir."

Since that time i never seen any game getring censored, this whote blood thing is just prehistoric and their explanaition why they did it is outride a lie.

Btw, i played the Tomb Raider Remaster before this "remaster" amd its unvelivable how little effort Konami did for Metal gear solid compared to what saber did.

If Konami instead of inserting unneeded censoring used that time to rework textures, we could have Gottes us a real worthy remaster.

"The game git rated again"
What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, any fsk16 game in germany has blood in it this damn liers :theskull:

Lmao ok get angry all you want and talk about things not even related to the topics that won't change the facts: Germany can censor games if they want to so blame your country not the people that have to follow the rules, the other versions have red blood.


That's wrong in this case.
Metal Gear Solid was released uncensored in Germany in 1998 and had an "age rating" for people of 12 years and older.
The Master Collection got an overall "age 16" rating, because it includes MGS Integral (was rated age 16 back than) and MGS 2 and 3 (also age 16 rating in the early 2000's).
And as you said, the non German language versions in the Master Collection of MGS are uncensored... even in Germany. That wouldn't be allowed, if the German rating organization would've requested censorship for rating and approving the release of the game in Germany.
I think it's as I said in my 1st post. Konami didn't understand the problem or they just don't care.
And trying to blame the German rating organization is a really poor excuse of them.

Totally understand the anger of the people and agree with most of them.
But before waiting for lazy Konami to react and correct the issue instead of playing the game: Play the US version of the collection (has better FPS anyway) or the German version if you can live with the cencorship or bad FPS and just want to enjoy the legendary voice acting :D (I can recommend it, it's just iconic).
Or grab the GOG version. It's not a console port, but the PC version. Runs without any patches or fixes, good FPS, uncensored and maybe people find a German language patch.
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Odann' Apr 19, 2024 @ 11:18am 
Hello. Do you play the German version (German language settings)?
Hapless Apr 19, 2024 @ 1:00pm 
The German version is censored.
Exdeath Apr 19, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Yes german Version.

There is no fix for this?

I think i have to Start anew with english language then, because i cant stand this censored crap.

Looks like Revolver ocelot is ejaculating out of his arm with this censored white blood.

Destroys my imersion

Its a shame though, because the german Dub is really good and the game had Red blood in its german Version on ps1 im 100% Sure.

Dont understamd why they have to censore it 26 years After the game came out
Odann' Apr 19, 2024 @ 11:36pm 
Unfortunately, it is not a bug and there's no fix, yet.
It is a "new" censorship, that has never been there before. Neighter with the old German PSX nor with the PC version. It's only in the German Master Collection version...
I reported this issue to Konami in October 2023 and stated, that the original German versions had no blood censorship.

After long silence I contacted Konami again last month and they answered:
" Please note that whenever a game is re-released, the game is then rated again.

If you would like to receive further information regarding censorship in this title, we recommend that you reach out to the USK directly:

https://usk.de/en/the-usk/faqs/censorship/
"

Either they didn't understand what the problem is or they don't care.
But their answer was anything but helpful.
Deathraven13 Apr 20, 2024 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by Odann':
Unfortunately, it is not a bug and there's no fix, yet.
It is a "new" censorship, that has never been there before. Neighter with the old German PSX nor with the PC version. It's only in the German Master Collection version...
I reported this issue to Konami in October 2023 and stated, that the original German versions had no blood censorship.

After long silence I contacted Konami again last month and they answered:
" Please note that whenever a game is re-released, the game is then rated again.

If you would like to receive further information regarding censorship in this title, we recommend that you reach out to the USK directly:

https://usk.de/en/the-usk/faqs/censorship/
"

Either they didn't understand what the problem is or they don't care.
But their answer was anything but helpful.

Konami answered you: "Please note that whenever a game is re-released, the game is then rated again." , meaning that if Germany want why blood then it's white bllod, China also had that censorship with the anime Chainsaw Man (making it worse because some character drink blood so imagine a female character with her mouth wide open and a stream of white liquid snake pouring into her mouth.......).
Exdeath Apr 20, 2024 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Odann':
Unfortunately, it is not a bug and there's no fix, yet.
It is a "new" censorship, that has never been there before. Neighter with the old German PSX nor with the PC version. It's only in the German Master Collection version...
I reported this issue to Konami in October 2023 and stated, that the original German versions had no blood censorship.

After long silence I contacted Konami again last month and they answered:
" Please note that whenever a game is re-released, the game is then rated again.

If you would like to receive further information regarding censorship in this title, we recommend that you reach out to the USK directly:

https://usk.de/en/the-usk/faqs/censorship/
"

Either they didn't understand what the problem is or they don't care.
But their answer was anything but helpful.

Konami answered you: "Please note that whenever a game is re-released, the game is then rated again." , meaning that if Germany want why blood then it's white bllod, China also had that censorship with the anime Chainsaw Man (making it worse because some character drink blood so imagine a female character with her mouth wide open and a stream of white liquid snake pouring into her mouth.......).
Yeah, but thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, censorship in games in germany is pretty much dead After video games where declaired as art in 2016, i dont remember who exactly said it, but i know what they said:

" Videogames are Art and blood is part of that Art. If we would ban every Art that shows blood then we would have to ban the Nibelungen Sage, the most german legend there is, with Siegfried bathing in the Blood of the slayed Dragon Fafnir."

Since that time i never seen any game getring censored, this whote blood thing is just prehistoric and their explanaition why they did it is outride a lie.

Btw, i played the Tomb Raider Remaster before this "remaster" amd its unvelivable how little effort Konami did for Metal gear solid compared to what saber did.

If Konami instead of inserting unneeded censoring used that time to rework textures, we could have Gottes us a real worthy remaster.

"The game git rated again"
What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, any fsk16 game in germany has blood in it this damn liers :theskull:
Exdeath Apr 20, 2024 @ 3:35am 
How to proof they lie:
Helldivers 2 in germany is usk 16
Metal gear solid master Collection is usk 16 as well.

Helldivers 2 not just has Red blood it also Cuts off any limbs including the head if enemies attack u.

So their "it fot rated again" Statement is a pure lie.

Im so angry
Deathraven13 Apr 20, 2024 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Exdeath:
Yeah, but thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, censorship in games in germany is pretty much dead After video games where declaired as art in 2016, i dont remember who exactly said it, but i know what they said:

" Videogames are Art and blood is part of that Art. If we would ban every Art that shows blood then we would have to ban the Nibelungen Sage, the most german legend there is, with Siegfried bathing in the Blood of the slayed Dragon Fafnir."

Since that time i never seen any game getring censored, this whote blood thing is just prehistoric and their explanaition why they did it is outride a lie.

Btw, i played the Tomb Raider Remaster before this "remaster" amd its unvelivable how little effort Konami did for Metal gear solid compared to what saber did.

If Konami instead of inserting unneeded censoring used that time to rework textures, we could have Gottes us a real worthy remaster.

"The game git rated again"
What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, any fsk16 game in germany has blood in it this damn liers :theskull:

Lmao ok get angry all you want and talk about things not even related to the topics that won't change the facts: Germany can censor games if they want to so blame your country not the people that have to follow the rules, the other versions have red blood.
Exdeath Apr 20, 2024 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Exdeath:
Yeah, but thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, censorship in games in germany is pretty much dead After video games where declaired as art in 2016, i dont remember who exactly said it, but i know what they said:

" Videogames are Art and blood is part of that Art. If we would ban every Art that shows blood then we would have to ban the Nibelungen Sage, the most german legend there is, with Siegfried bathing in the Blood of the slayed Dragon Fafnir."

Since that time i never seen any game getring censored, this whote blood thing is just prehistoric and their explanaition why they did it is outride a lie.

Btw, i played the Tomb Raider Remaster before this "remaster" amd its unvelivable how little effort Konami did for Metal gear solid compared to what saber did.

If Konami instead of inserting unneeded censoring used that time to rework textures, we could have Gottes us a real worthy remaster.

"The game git rated again"
What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, any fsk16 game in germany has blood in it this damn liers :theskull:

Lmao ok get angry all you want and talk about things not even related to the topics that won't change the facts: Germany can censor games if they want to so blame your country not the people that have to follow the rules, the other versions have red blood.
My country didnt censor a game in 9 years why would they Start now. Its a lie by Konami.

Why u defending them?
U like their slot Maschines?
Is metal gear survive your favorite game?
Hapless Apr 20, 2024 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Exdeath:
Is metal gear survive your favorite game?

Lmao
Fuffelpups Apr 20, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
My guess was that they used the wrong ROM and this a beta version of the german PSX build. I reported it to the german Konami Support in 2023. It makes no sense that this edit was made on purpose and the other games are left untouched. This probably is some weird bug.

"Hallo Fuffelpups,

Vielen Dank für deine Nachricht an das KONAMI C.O.D.E. Team!

Tatsächlich handelt es sich hierbei um die korrekte Version von Metal Gear Solid in der Metal Gear Solid Master Collection.

Dein Feedback zur Änderung an den Bluteffekten, leite ich jedoch gerne an das zuständige Team weiter und bedanke mich an dieser Stelle für dein Feedback.

Ich wünsche dir weiterhin viel Spaß beim spielen!"
Last edited by Fuffelpups; Apr 20, 2024 @ 12:10pm
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Odann' Apr 20, 2024 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
Originally posted by Exdeath:
Yeah, but thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, censorship in games in germany is pretty much dead After video games where declaired as art in 2016, i dont remember who exactly said it, but i know what they said:

" Videogames are Art and blood is part of that Art. If we would ban every Art that shows blood then we would have to ban the Nibelungen Sage, the most german legend there is, with Siegfried bathing in the Blood of the slayed Dragon Fafnir."

Since that time i never seen any game getring censored, this whote blood thing is just prehistoric and their explanaition why they did it is outride a lie.

Btw, i played the Tomb Raider Remaster before this "remaster" amd its unvelivable how little effort Konami did for Metal gear solid compared to what saber did.

If Konami instead of inserting unneeded censoring used that time to rework textures, we could have Gottes us a real worthy remaster.

"The game git rated again"
What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, any fsk16 game in germany has blood in it this damn liers :theskull:

Lmao ok get angry all you want and talk about things not even related to the topics that won't change the facts: Germany can censor games if they want to so blame your country not the people that have to follow the rules, the other versions have red blood.


That's wrong in this case.
Metal Gear Solid was released uncensored in Germany in 1998 and had an "age rating" for people of 12 years and older.
The Master Collection got an overall "age 16" rating, because it includes MGS Integral (was rated age 16 back than) and MGS 2 and 3 (also age 16 rating in the early 2000's).
And as you said, the non German language versions in the Master Collection of MGS are uncensored... even in Germany. That wouldn't be allowed, if the German rating organization would've requested censorship for rating and approving the release of the game in Germany.
I think it's as I said in my 1st post. Konami didn't understand the problem or they just don't care.
And trying to blame the German rating organization is a really poor excuse of them.

Totally understand the anger of the people and agree with most of them.
But before waiting for lazy Konami to react and correct the issue instead of playing the game: Play the US version of the collection (has better FPS anyway) or the German version if you can live with the cencorship or bad FPS and just want to enjoy the legendary voice acting :D (I can recommend it, it's just iconic).
Or grab the GOG version. It's not a console port, but the PC version. Runs without any patches or fixes, good FPS, uncensored and maybe people find a German language patch.
Exdeath Apr 20, 2024 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Odann':
Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Lmao ok get angry all you want and talk about things not even related to the topics that won't change the facts: Germany can censor games if they want to so blame your country not the people that have to follow the rules, the other versions have red blood.


That's wrong in this case.
Metal Gear Solid was released uncensored in Germany in 1998 and had an "age rating" for people of 12 years and older.
The Master Collection got an overall "age 16" rating, because it includes MGS Integral (was rated age 16 back than) and MGS 2 and 3 (also age 16 rating in the early 2000's).
And as you said, the non German language versions in the Master Collection of MGS are uncensored... even in Germany. That wouldn't be allowed, if the German rating organization would've requested censorship for rating and approving the release of the game in Germany.
I think it's as I said in my 1st post. Konami didn't understand the problem or they just don't care.
And trying to blame the German rating organization is a really poor excuse of them.

Totally understand the anger of the people and agree with most of them.
But before waiting for lazy Konami to react and correct the issue instead of playing the game: Play the US version of the collection (has better FPS anyway) or the German version if you can live with the cencorship or bad FPS and just want to enjoy the legendary voice acting :D (I can recommend it, it's just iconic).
Or grab the GOG version. It's not a console port, but the PC version. Runs without any patches or fixes, good FPS, uncensored and maybe people find a German language patch.
yeah i switched to the American version, its not that huge of a deal as i can speak and underastand english on a advanced level, but yes, the german dub was legendary, they really put a lot of effort into it, just compare the Arms Tech President Baker, in the Us version hes just a guy, but in the german version he uses such great words and has such a funny voice.

i think i have to play the game twice then... :D
Skeeka Apr 20, 2024 @ 3:22pm 
The german dub is notoriously bad but at the same time also somewhat endearing because...unlike a lot of german video game dubs you can tell the actors actually put effort into their performance...they just weren't very good for the most part. And they lacked direction.

Last edited by Skeeka; Apr 20, 2024 @ 3:22pm
eclipse Apr 23, 2024 @ 6:30am 
Demand a refund for the censorship. The only way to change things in the world is with your wallet. Do not take no for answer.
Im glad i come here and saw this because it affirms i will Never purchase this bullsh product.
Last edited by eclipse; Apr 23, 2024 @ 6:31am
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