METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

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When, if ever, can we expect the input lag to be fixed?
MGS1 is completely unplayable in its current state.
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Kyo Tanaka 5 DIC 2023 a las 15:02 
Publicado originalmente por lumaxzip:
MGS1 ps4 controller buttons not working
Is steam input on?
Lethal Placebo 5 DIC 2023 a las 15:23 
Publicado originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Sound, yes. I'm not sure what you mean by presentation but the PC version, both original and GOG re-release, have resolution settings which makes it look much better.

Also, despite having better audio, the Master Collection version still has some audio issues, I was watching someone livestream it upon release and they were very noticeable. No idea if that has been fixed already.
Yes indeed, the emulation of MGS1 has audio issues for sure. Hopefully they get fixed.

When I said the PC version is inferior in terms of presentation, I wasn't talking about resolution. The PC version is missing many post-processing effects, mostly in the cutscenes but some affect gameplay too. Things like depth of field, motion blur, and some transparency effects are either outright missing or don't render correctly. Certain audio transitions and stingers are also missing because of the way the audio engine was changed on PC.
Última edición por Lethal Placebo; 5 DIC 2023 a las 16:37
Jayhova 8 DIC 2023 a las 9:21 
Publicado originalmente por radicalfaith360:
So I downloaded the GOG version and the difference is night and day. There is definitely input lag on the Steam version of MGS1 and it's unbearable.

Maybe upgrade your potato PC to something that can handle the steam overlay.
hip 10 DIC 2023 a las 21:57 
Publicado originalmente por Don Cartagena:
Publicado originalmente por radicalfaith360:
So I downloaded the GOG version and the difference is night and day. There is definitely input lag on the Steam version of MGS1 and it's unbearable.

Maybe upgrade your potato PC to something that can handle the steam overlay.
the GOG version is more demanding than this emulated 240p garbage so thats not the case.
Última edición por hip; 10 DIC 2023 a las 21:58
Goat Punishment 10 DIC 2023 a las 22:50 
people defending input lag and no analog support, there is 100% input lag in mgs1 . very noticeable
Lethal Placebo 10 DIC 2023 a las 22:51 
Publicado originalmente por Goat Punishment:
people defending input lag and no analog support, there is 100% input lag in mgs1 . very noticeable
No one is defending the lack of analog support. Compared against DuckStation, there appears to be no input lag.
Deathraven13 11 DIC 2023 a las 1:17 
Publicado originalmente por Goat Punishment:
people defending input lag and no analog support, there is 100% input lag in mgs1 . very noticeable

If you have input lag it's on your end.
Wild Dog 12 DIC 2023 a las 12:14 
No input lag here, beaten the game 100%
Skeeka 12 DIC 2023 a las 13:38 
No input lag here either but when are they gonna fix the audio popping and cracking during cutscenes and codec conversations? Checked some playthroughs on Youtube and everyone seems to have those.
Lethal Placebo 12 DIC 2023 a las 15:42 
Publicado originalmente por Skeeka:
No input lag here either but when are they gonna fix the audio popping and cracking during cutscenes and codec conversations? Checked some playthroughs on Youtube and everyone seems to have those.
That's correct, all platforms are affected by the audio issues, we can only hope for a patch.
Wild Dog 12 DIC 2023 a las 16:06 
Publicado originalmente por Skeeka:
No input lag here either but when are they gonna fix the audio popping and cracking during cutscenes and codec conversations? Checked some playthroughs on Youtube and everyone seems to have those.

That i do have.
Deathraven13 13 DIC 2023 a las 0:23 
Publicado originalmente por Lethal Placebo:
Publicado originalmente por Skeeka:
No input lag here either but when are they gonna fix the audio popping and cracking during cutscenes and codec conversations? Checked some playthroughs on Youtube and everyone seems to have those.
That's correct, all platforms are affected by the audio issues, we can only hope for a patch.

Can you hear it there ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKOKJgkpNOs

Unless it's some versions I didn't hear anything weird but I did 100% the game at the very beginning of the release.
Lethal Placebo 13 DIC 2023 a las 20:53 
Publicado originalmente por Deathraven13:

Can you hear it there ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKOKJgkpNOs

Unless it's some versions I didn't hear anything weird but I did 100% the game at the very beginning of the release.
I don't know why you chose a video that has a dude talking over it the entire time, but yes the audio issues are still there. At 2:26, as the sub passes by, you can hear the audio popping that is a result of the reverb effect being emulated incorrectly.
Deathraven13 14 DIC 2023 a las 9:00 
Publicado originalmente por Lethal Placebo:
I don't know why you chose a video that has a dude talking over it the entire time, but yes the audio issues are still there. At 2:26, as the sub passes by, you can hear the audio popping that is a result of the reverb effect being emulated incorrectly.

It sound normal, well I don't watch people who just silently play the game, I can play the game.

I did find another youtube video using the french version and it seem to speak less, in both cases the sounds sound good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OGhBTuDC_k
Lethal Placebo 14 DIC 2023 a las 12:34 
Publicado originalmente por Deathraven13:
It sound normal, well I don't watch people who just silently play the game, I can play the game.

I did find another youtube video using the french version and it seem to speak less, in both cases the sounds sound good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OGhBTuDC_k
The audio issues are still present in this video too. Admittedly, the audio popping is much more difficult to hear during the sub segment, probably a result of the audio balance of the stream, but you can tell the audio issues are still there at 1:12:35. At this section, the player uses the codec and you can tell the audio is being emulated incorrectly. It's much more shrill and stretched than it should be.

Look, if you can't hear the difference, that's perfectly fine and I don't want to damper your enjoyment of this version of the game but please don't pretend the issue doesn't exist.

In this video by YouTube user Ocelot, you can hear at 3:30 how the codec is supposed to sound versus how it sounds in the Master Collection. The incorrect MC sound matches how it sounds in the video you posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDDinYw5UTs
Última edición por Lethal Placebo; 14 DIC 2023 a las 12:35
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