... Call me when MGS1 gets an ACTUAL ground up remake

[Just Some Guy]

Sorry, but no. Call me when you're willing to put the time and effort in to actually remaking this iconic title. This iconic trilogy. It's all well and good that 3 is getting a remake... but WHY only 3? If anything, MGS1 should be fully re-made from the ground up. Then 2... and THEN 3...

This is just another instance of Konami trying to cash in. Look no further than Metal Gear survive. Thanks, but no thanks.

[Pierce Dalton]

Did you see that green TRIangle?

I wonder what it means...

[samuskay]

Konami are trying to cash in by.....remaking the most popular game first.....and not making remakes of the others at the same time? remakes that will cost ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to make.

You guys are funny

[xxpillowhugxx]

And you're clearly a bootlicker with low standards. What's your point?^

[Deathraven13]

Since you clearly didn't play these games let me explain: MGS3 is the beginning of the story, so instead of starting like in the middle they went with the beginning AKA MGS3.

Why MGS1 isn't the beginning of the story ? Because Kojima is not very smart thus didn't plan the story ahead.

If MGS Delta doesn't sell well no one will call you since the franchise will probably be dead.

[samuskay]

see clearly they should remake metal gear on the msx first.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Why MGS1 isn't the beginning of the story ? Because Kojima is not very smart thus didn't plan the story ahead.

I know you hate Kojima but this is just stupid to expect that every game would turn into a big franchise with an overarching story when the developers wouldn't have expected to have a series that would last for decades. Of course most developers including Kojima wouldn't plan that far ahead, especially back in the late 80's and early 90's. Not to mention that MGS1 wouldn't have been the beginning anyway because there's already two predecessors for the MSX and the game's narrative is intended to follow up on them as a sequel.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by Duckilous:

I know you hate Kojima but this is just stupid to expect that every game would turn into a big franchise with an overarching story when the developers wouldn't have expected to have a series that would last for decades. Of course most developers including Kojima wouldn't plan that far ahead, especially back in the late 80's and early 90's. Not to mention that MGS1 wouldn't have been the beginning anyway because there's already two predecessors for the MSX and the game's narrative is intended to follow up on them as a sequel.

People call him a genius yet nothing he did was worth being called one.

Like he said death stranding would bring a new genre and hum........ it's a fetching quest game.

He could have rebooted the serie so MGS1 would have been the beginning then continue, so MGS3 would be MGS1, etc etc etc it's too long to write everything in order.

So Konami started at the beginning since the story is supposed to be complete rather than do it in a random order like Kojima.

[HistoricKombat]

Check your messages...I think you got one from 2004...something about "Twin Snakes?"

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Originally posted by Duckilous:

I know you hate Kojima but this is just stupid to expect that every game would turn into a big franchise with an overarching story when the developers wouldn't have expected to have a series that would last for decades. Of course most developers including Kojima wouldn't plan that far ahead, especially back in the late 80's and early 90's. Not to mention that MGS1 wouldn't have been the beginning anyway because there's already two predecessors for the MSX and the game's narrative is intended to follow up on them as a sequel.

People call him a genius yet nothing he did was worth being called one.

In your opinion which is not what we came here for.
I didn't even call him a genius either, I just think your reason for thinking Kojima isn't smart for not thinking ahead is very stupid. Most game developers and/or writers don't think ahead because it's unrealistic since it's a gamble on whether the game would be popular enough to spawn a long series spanning more than three games with an overarching story, especially if the game was originally intended to be just a singular one-off.

It's incredibly stupid to expect game devs to think ahead because it's not a good idea for developers to even think like that because there's no guarantee that they would actually get to produce a series of multiple games that would eventually conclude a very long arc.
Take a look at Yu Suzuki's Shenmue series for example in which he deliberately planned his story to have 11 chapters with 4-6 or more games. The first and second games were released on 1999 and 2001 respectively but it's only until 2019 that the third game finally came out except it hasn't even concluded the arc that's been left in the cliffhanger for 18 years!
Since then, no other games have yet to exist, if ever, to conclude the plot.

It's actually wise of Kojima and other game developers to just focus on a singular plot for one game and if it ever gets popular enough that the audience demands for a sequel that the publisher is willing to greenlight, then they would have to make things up for the next game as they go that may or may not connect to its predecessors. Hell, Kojima wanted to move on after MGS2 which he would've if someone was there for him to direct the series without him or Konami didn't always demand for a new game to milk the franchise further.

Like he said death stranding would bring a new genre and hum........ it's a fetching quest game.

Okay and?

He could have rebooted the serie so MGS1 would have been the beginning then continue, so MGS3 would be MGS1, etc etc etc it's too long to write everything in order.

No, he didn't need to reboot with MGS1 because it's completely unnecessary and it's intended to be a sequel to the first two Metal Gear games which was not hard to follow since its storyline was linear back then in the 90's.

It's only appropriate now that MGS1 should be rebooted or remade since the series has happened to grown to have an expanded overarching storyline that reached its conclusion.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Since you clearly didn't play these games

Neither did you, according to yourself: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2131630/discussions/0/3875970367302809564/#c3875970367303337941

[FoamingKobold]

You missed the call almost 20 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid:_The_Twin_Snakes

[Baconwave]

For as much as I would love to see a proper re-make of this. TTS was only proof to me that even with Kojima with Konami, remaking MGS1 should be left alone. They somehow SUCKED the whole emotion out of the game all for the sake of a facelift and updating.

I still bought it, I still played it and I still think its less than the original deserved.

[Rialm]

There is! It's releasing 9 March 2024 in the States, 11 March 2024 in Japan, and 26 March 2024 in Europe. The trailer looks sick!! So keep sleeping until march of next year. I finally will buy a Gamecube, screw you PS2!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzrFnjBEwl4