Screenshots Comparing all version of MGS

[Captain Blue]

To all the people using Gmans video to claim MGS looks better on hardware who fail to realise Gman was using hardware upscaling. Here I present screen shots from every version of the game.

PlayStation is default hardware using composite cables at 480i
PlayStation 2 was captured using component cables at 480P.
PlayStation 3 is HDMI 1080p

https://ibb.co/yqXvvz9

[Swole Diccus]

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

Why are you angry about a game you don't own ?

Well this collection is not a remaster so it's about being OG, i've you've read REMASTER collection instead of MASTER collection that's on you.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

Why are you angry about a game you don't own ?

Well this collection is not a remaster so it's about being OG, i've you've read REMASTER collection instead of MASTER collection that's on you.

Don’t need to own a game to tell if it’s a bad port.

It’s like what people do with bad games all the time. Don’t need to buy trash like Metal Gear Survive to know it’s bad, or GTA Definitive, or SH HD Collection

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

Yep.

This “Master” version is still using a blur filter, and that’s the big issue.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

Because there are people falsely claiming the games looked better on psone / ps2 / ps3 and it's not true.. Sure you can spend some money on a really good upscaler and get impressive results on native psone but don't be disingenuous that this version is somehow a downgrade over previous versions of the game. It isn't.

I'm not saying that Konami couldn't have done a better job I just wish people wouldn't over exaggerate claiming things were better on other versions of the game.. It's pretty much identical to all base versions of the game.

Of course you can make all versions look better with better up scaling and emulation but base versions of the game never had any of that.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

Because there are people falsely claiming the games looked better on psone / ps2 / ps3 and it's not true..

But it does look better on those.

This version is pretty much just the PS1 version, but with oil spread on the screen due to them not caring to disable their emulation port settings.

Especially when the PS3 digital version lets you disable smoothing.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Don’t need to own a game to tell if it’s a bad port.

It’s like what people do with bad games all the time. Don’t need to buy trash like Metal Gear Survive to know it’s bad, or GTA Definitive, or SH HD Collection

You didn't say that when people said Death Stranding was garbage because it's just a fedex simulator, I still remember how angry you were back then. It still make me laugh just remembering it.

So basicaly you watch a youtuber and without any thinking you believe them, that's pretty sad, you are even here trolling on their demand like a puppet,

Well I'll let you be mad and I'll go play MGS3 without any FPS drop, or maybe I'll check those MGS missions, plenty of choices in this great collection.

[Swole Diccus]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Originally posted by Swole Diccus:

ok? it still looks like garbage with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bilinear filter on it for no reason which the original playstation version doesn't have. Also isnt the master collection supposed to be in 1080p any way? So who cares if he used an upscaler.

Why are you angry about a game you don't own ?

Well this collection is not a remaster so it's about being OG, i've you've read REMASTER collection instead of MASTER collection that's on you.

I'm not angry I'm stating a fact. You're projecting which seems to be a common theme around steam forums. Seems like you're the one that's mad. Also theres nothing "OG" about this port. if it was it wouldnt have some disgusting n64 filter on it.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Because there are people falsely claiming the games looked better on psone / ps2 / ps3 and it's not true..

But it does look better on those.

This version is pretty much just the PS1 version, but with oil spread on the screen due to them not caring to disable their emulation port settings.

Especially when the PS3 digital version lets you disable smoothing.

Literally posted screen shots comparing all versions of the game.. lol

Disabling smoothing does not have the dramatic effect you think it does. I have the legacy collection on PS3 I played it maybe 4 years ago... It's blurry or slightly less blurry but it's still blurry. You can see the smoothing in the screen shots. The PS3 versions without smoothing would probably just look like the master collection version which you can tell has more jaggies than the PS3 version.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

But it does look better on those.

This version is pretty much just the PS1 version, but with oil spread on the screen due to them not caring to disable their emulation port settings.

Especially when the PS3 digital version lets you disable smoothing.

Literally posted screen shots comparing all versions of the game.. lol

Disabling smoothing does not have the dramatic effect you think it does. I have the legacy collection on PS3 I played it maybe 4 years ago... It's blurry or slightly less blurry but it's still blurry.

Same, and disabling the smooth effect makes it look like the PS1 version.

While this Master version looks blurry and much worse than either. Which is the issue.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Literally posted screen shots comparing all versions of the game.. lol

Disabling smoothing does not have the dramatic effect you think it does. I have the legacy collection on PS3 I played it maybe 4 years ago... It's blurry or slightly less blurry but it's still blurry.

Same, and disabling the smooth effect makes it look like the PS1 version.

While this Master version looks blurry and much worse than either.

No, disabling the smoothing would most likely have made it look like the Master Collection version.. You can see the PS3 and Master Collection look identical apart from the edges being less jagged and more smooth in the PS3 version. Which is what the smooth feature did, reduce the aliasing. You can see the Master Collection is sharper than the PS3 with smoothing on. So logic would say the likely output of PS3 without smoothing would be the Master Collection version.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Same, and disabling the smooth effect makes it look like the PS1 version.

While this Master version looks blurry and much worse than either.

No, disabling the smoothing would most likely made it look like the Master collection version.. You can see the PS3 and Master Collection look identical apart from the edges being less jagged and more smooth in the PS3 version. Which is what the smooth feature did, reduce the aliasing. You can see the Master Collection is sharper than the PS3 with smoothing on.

Well yes, they are technically the same since they are both just the PS1 version.

The problem is the blur filter. Master just has a blur filter on at all times. And it would be a non-issue if they bothered to let you disable it.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

No, disabling the smoothing would most likely made it look like the Master collection version.. You can see the PS3 and Master Collection look identical apart from the edges being less jagged and more smooth in the PS3 version. Which is what the smooth feature did, reduce the aliasing. You can see the Master Collection is sharper than the PS3 with smoothing on.

Well yes, they are technically the same since they are both just the PS1 version.

The problem is the blur filter. Master just has a blur filter on at all times. And it would be a non-issue if they bothered to let you disable it.

So did the PS3 version.. The blurring isn't being caused by a filter it's caused by the type of up-scaling used.. In this case bi-linear up-scaling.. IT'S NOT A FILTER.. It's a byproduct of up-scaling from 240p using this method of up-scaling. Exactly the same on the PS3 without smoothing on.. PS3 also used Bi-Linear up-scaling to 1080p creating the same blurring. Putting on smoothing just made it more blurry..

[Swole Diccus]

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Well yes, they are technically the same since they are both just the PS1 version.

The problem is the blur filter. Master just has a blur filter on at all times. And it would be a non-issue if they bothered to let you disable it.

So did the PS3 version.. The blurring isn't being caused by a filter it's caused by the type of up-scaling used.. In this case bi-linear up-scaling.. IT'S NOT A FILTER.. It's a byproduct of up-scaling from 240p using this method of up-scaling. Exactly the same on the PS3 without smoothing on.. PS3 also used Bi-Linear up-scaling to 1080p creating the same blurring. Putting on smoothing just made it more blurry..

wow that's so bad LMAO

[Roland]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

No, disabling the smoothing would most likely made it look like the Master collection version.. You can see the PS3 and Master Collection look identical apart from the edges being less jagged and more smooth in the PS3 version. Which is what the smooth feature did, reduce the aliasing. You can see the Master Collection is sharper than the PS3 with smoothing on.

Well yes, they are technically the same since they are both just the PS1 version.

The problem is the blur filter. Master just has a blur filter on at all times. And it would be a non-issue if they bothered to let you disable it.

You people keep saying that but you can CLEARLY see aliasing not only in those screenshots but throughout the entire game; at least on a 1080p TV.
AND in fact the Master Collection has the most jagged edges out of any of those shots; with teh PS1 on Disc on ps3 being a very close second.

So where's the blur??