METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

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Roland Oct 24, 2023 @ 9:17am
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Why Duckstation is NOT better
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3059988955

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3059988780

Not only do we get the Master Book and Screenplay but you would need 6 different isos.

Good luck still finding those or your save 20 years from now, when Steam users will still be able to play with a few clicks.

Update:
I'm updating this because many of you are confused by "6 ISOs" so I'll spell it out:

MGS1 NA is 2 Discs
MGS VR Missions is 1 Disc
MGS VR Special MIssions is 1 Disc
MGS1 Integral is 2 Discs

Now let's do the math together boys and girls, what 2 + 1 + 1 + 2?
Did you get 6? VERY GOOD!

Update 2:
fixed the title because it was poorly worded originally
Last edited by Roland; Oct 27, 2023 @ 3:36am
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Roland Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by Slickbait:
Originally posted by Roland:
LMFAO
I like how you chose to be pedantic about ISO vs bin/cue only to look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moron saying I don't know what I'm talking about, because I can play at 60Hz with Integral.

And to further expound on YOU not knowing what you're talking about, this collection comes with MGS1, MGS1 Integral, VR Missions, and Special Missions. That's literally 6 different discs, but tell me more about how I don't know what I'm talking about.


You're a fool if you think any CD will last 40 years.
https://cdm.link/2017/02/a-generation-of-cds-is-already-rotting-and-dying/
And burned discs rot even faster; I've seen many bubble and die.

I can guarantee you that all 6 discs of those are easy to find and get up and running on DuckStation + better keyboard/mouse controls and a far higher resolution with scanlines and most importantly, a stable 30 FPS
The fact that you think Scanlines make it look like the original tells me all I need to know about you.

You're either blind or too young to know what a CRT looks like. Scanline filters always look stupid because they lack the colorbleed that comes with an actual CRT.
Good job outing yourself as having never played the original on the hardware it was meant for.
EI Tadashi 🎮 Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
I don´t know what you are smoking.
Nothing until payday sadly.
So you are on drug withdrawal right now?! ;)

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
Just look how easy the games can be improved.
Originally posted by Roland:
Well there's your first problem. You don't want the original experience; you want a modified one.
If I would have wanted the original experience I would play the old original copys on original hardware!

Release a new collection for full price, and changing nothing about it, is just lazy and greedy.

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
But of course Konami is too lazy to put some effort and love into the series.
Originally posted by Roland:
You know they wrote an entire emulator right?
They also had a whole list of things they wanna fix in patches before anyone on Steam could even start a full list.
So they wrote an entire emulator for it, and can still not beat the quality of an emulator like Duckstation?! What a piss poor outcome!

Originally posted by Roland:
I'm not a Konami fan by any stretch these days, and would happily call them lazy if it was true, but in this case, there was obvious work put in here.
Oh, you sound pretty like a Konami Fanboy!
Capa Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Even the boss of Konami is not that much of a Konami fan. Dude just play to that crap you call a real original experience and let us ask for the game experience we deserve.
Pierce Dalton Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by {NBG} Potate:
It's not a terrible emulator. It's not Duckstation or anything but it's not terrible. Better then ePSXE by a mile.

The Master Collection is using epsxe to emulate the game. Someone found mentions of it in the game files... Konami will probably remove that in the next update lol.
Duckilous Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by Roland:
Well there's your first problem. You don't want the original experience; you want a modified one.
The real original experience would be playing the game on an actual PS1 on a CRT TV.
NOT playing it from a 2023 collection on modern platforms that emulates it with blur filtering.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:
Originally posted by {NBG} Potate:
It's not a terrible emulator. It's not Duckstation or anything but it's not terrible. Better then ePSXE by a mile.

The Master Collection is using epsxe to emulate the game. Someone found mentions of it in the game files... Konami will probably remove that in the next update lol.
Of course leave it to Konami to use an outdated emulator instead of Duckstation, Mednafen, XEBRA, or PCSX-R.
Last edited by Duckilous; Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:39am
Roland Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:35am 
Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
Originally posted by Roland:
Nothing until payday sadly.
So you are on drug withdrawal right now?! ;)
While also trying to quit a 18 year old nicotine habit too.

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
If I would have wanted the original experience I would play the old original copys on original hardware!
Now see this is where I have to give myself some credit for nicely pointing out to you that you have no idea what the ♥♥♥♥ disc rot is and should learn what it takes to keep CDs alive for over 20 years before talking ♥♥♥♥. Discs are not forever and it's stupid to think they are. (I've covered this in previous replies)

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
So they wrote an entire emulator for it, and can still not beat the quality of an emulator like Duckstation?! What a piss poor outcome!
What??
You mean the emulator they only wrote to run 1 game in less than a year isn't as good as an emulator that's been in development for over 4 years!?
Damn. I guess I should be outraged that something that is over 4 years old and is made as a passion project is better than something made in less than a year. (if you can't tell, that's sarcasm because that's an incredibly stupid thing to expect)

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
Oh, you sound pretty like a Konami Fanboy!
And you sound like you've run out of ammo because you can't deny making an emulator is work. GG ♥♥♥♥♥.
Last edited by Roland; Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:36am
Pierce Dalton Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
So you are on drug withdrawal right now?! ;)
While also trying to quit a 18 year old nicotine habit too.

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
If I would have wanted the original experience I would play the old original copys on original hardware!
Now see this is where I have to give myself some credit for nicely pointing out to you that you have no idea what the ♥♥♥♥ disc rot is and should learn what it takes to keep CDs alive for over 20 years before talking ♥♥♥♥. Discs are not forever and it's stupid to think they are. (I've covered this in previous replies)

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
So they wrote an entire emulator for it, and can still not beat the quality of an emulator like Duckstation?! What a piss poor outcome!
What??
You mean the emulator they only wrote to run 1 game in less than a year isn't as good as an emulator that's been in development for over 4 years!?
Damn. I guess I should be outraged that something that is over 4 years old and is made as a passion project is better than something made in less than a year. (if you can't tell, that's sarcasm because that's an incredibly stupid thing to expect)

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
Oh, you sound pretty like a Konami Fanboy!
And you sound like you've run out of ammo because you can't deny making an emulator is work. GG ♥♥♥♥♥.

They literally copy pasted another emulator.
Roland Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:
Originally posted by Roland:
While also trying to quit a 18 year old nicotine habit too.


Now see this is where I have to give myself some credit for nicely pointing out to you that you have no idea what the ♥♥♥♥ disc rot is and should learn what it takes to keep CDs alive for over 20 years before talking ♥♥♥♥. Discs are not forever and it's stupid to think they are. (I've covered this in previous replies)


What??
You mean the emulator they only wrote to run 1 game in less than a year isn't as good as an emulator that's been in development for over 4 years!?
Damn. I guess I should be outraged that something that is over 4 years old and is made as a passion project is better than something made in less than a year. (if you can't tell, that's sarcasm because that's an incredibly stupid thing to expect)


And you sound like you've run out of ammo because you can't deny making an emulator is work. GG ♥♥♥♥♥.

They literally copy pasted another emulator.
Proof?
niralamart000 Oct 25, 2023 @ 3:54am 
this is defo from the metal gear sub reddit, the entire reddit is a looney really
EI Tadashi 🎮 Oct 25, 2023 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
If I would have wanted the original experience I would play the old original copys on original hardware!
Now see this is where I have to give myself some credit for nicely pointing out to you that you have no idea what the ♥♥♥♥ disc rot is and should learn what it takes to keep CDs alive for over 20 years before talking ♥♥♥♥. Discs are not forever and it's stupid to think they are. (I've covered this in previous replies)

No credit given, because your "point" was that todays buyers should not expect an improvement on new releases, because it would not be the original experience?

You are a funny Konami-Fanboy indeed!

But there is a mayor flaw in your theory, this version is worse than the original releases. The original PS1 version for example looks better than this poor emulated and blurry port does.

Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
So they wrote an entire emulator for it, and can still not beat the quality of an emulator like Duckstation?! What a piss poor outcome!

Originally posted by Roland:
What??
You mean the emulator they only wrote to run 1 game in less than a year isn't as good as an emulator that's been in development for over 4 years!?
Damn. I guess I should be outraged that something that is over 4 years old and is made as a passion project is better than something made in less than a year. (if you can't tell, that's sarcasm because that's an incredibly stupid thing to expect)

It looks like Konami didn´t wrote anything for this game. They just used ePSXe emulator for it, which explanes alot why it looks like crap. So your point is invalid!

And even if they would have wrote an emulator just for one game, it is even more pathetic that Konami with the budget they have, that they deliver such a lazy port!

Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by EI Tadashi 🎮:
Oh, you sound pretty like a Konami Fanboy!
And you sound like you've run out of ammo because you can't deny making an emulator is work. GG ♥♥♥♥♥.
You are the one who is justifying this greedy and lazy behaviour of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ company called Konami.

Also you are clearly grasping for straws here!
Last edited by EI Tadashi 🎮; Oct 25, 2023 @ 4:34am
Pierce Dalton Oct 25, 2023 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

They literally copy pasted another emulator.
Proof?

Get real, man. Anyone can download an emulator from the web, slightly change some stuff here and there, and call it a day. Why reinvent the wheel? Why Konami would waste time and money making their own emulator from scratch?
Xincorp Oct 28, 2023 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3059988955

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3059988780

Not only do we get the Master Book and Screenplay but you would need 6 different isos.

Good luck still finding those or your save 20 years from now, when Steam users will still be able to play with a few clicks.

Update:
I'm updating this because many of you are confused by "6 ISOs" so I'll spell it out:

MGS1 NA is 2 Discs
MGS VR Missions is 1 Disc
MGS VR Special MIssions is 1 Disc
MGS1 Integral is 2 Discs

Now let's do the math together boys and girls, what 2 + 1 + 1 + 2?
Did you get 6? VERY GOOD!

Update 2:
fixed the title because it was poorly worded originally
Bro spent $60 on emulation when it’s free haha silly goose
Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:
Originally posted by Roland:
Proof?

Get real, man. Anyone can download an emulator from the web, slightly change some stuff here and there, and call it a day. Why reinvent the wheel? Why Konami would waste time and money making their own emulator from scratch?

Because whatever they're using runs like crap.
cikame Oct 30, 2023 @ 2:10pm 
Yeah nah
LucifersBeard Oct 30, 2023 @ 2:17pm 
What? Playing it on DuckStation at the moment and I don't care if I have 2 discs. It looks so much better than this basic port.
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