METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

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Jarrod Oct 24, 2023 @ 2:30am
Any way to turn off the blur filter?
I don't remember it being this blurry.
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R4Zi3L Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:30am 
options are always nice
RunningWild Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:51am 
This is how the game should look -
https://i.imgur.com/H5RaAqR.png

The filtering in this collection just completely ruins the visual style of the original game.
Costosky Oct 24, 2023 @ 4:29am 
Welp apparently getting the North American Pack from SteamDB and then checking it on MGS DLC tab, then choosing the start the game as North American Pack solved the blurry and the sluggish ordeal, good game guys.
Costosky Oct 24, 2023 @ 4:35am 
Originally posted by Costosky:
Welp apparently getting the North American Pack from SteamDB and then checking it on MGS DLC tab, then choosing the start the game as North American Pack solved the blurry and the sluggish ordeal, good game guys.
Nevermind it's still kinda blurry, but the pacing is so much better and responsive now
Sangral Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Did anyone find a solution so far? We know that this is, thanks god, just a filter and not a forced bilinear upscale since the PS4 version has a glitch where when you reset the PS1 game it changes from blurry to pixel sharp, how it should be, but if you go into the screen setting of the game and change something it goes back to the blur! So it is possible somehow and on PC someone who knows what he's doing should be able to do it relatively easy.

Look here at 1:01:50
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1958986430?t=1h2m43s
Last edited by Sangral; Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:45pm
koyoinu Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
IT literally looks how it did on back on disc with the PS1 dont understand why people are saying it looks blurry maybe cause our brains are so used to 1080p - 4k that this game looks blurry but i see no diffrence
Yes, it's called... nvm.
Captain Blue Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Tr0w:
Originally posted by antipothis:
It has always been this blurry. Might be remembering playing it emulated. Or on an actual CRT, where the scan lines would change how it looked.
Wrong, side by side shots in this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0rmjGJgoQ

You are wrong he clearly says the comparisons are from him using an upscaler and the best possible video cable he could find. That's not really how MGS would have looked back in the day on an old TV.
Last edited by Captain Blue; Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:55pm
Sangral Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by koyoinu:
IT literally looks how it did on back on disc with the PS1 dont understand why people are saying it looks blurry maybe cause our brains are so used to 1080p - 4k that this game looks blurry but i see no diffrence

It literally does not. The PS1 game was always pixel sharp if you played it on an HD TV on a PS3, this game always scaled near neighbor and was just sharp. That it's blurry right now is a filter and people above already liked some videos where you can see the direct difference.

Look here at 9 minutes.

https://youtu.be/3U0rmjGJgoQ?si=G6abZ2WTsonal_yX

Or, Christ, look at my posting just above yours where someone shows the bug on PS4 where it changes between blurry and not blurry.

If you can't see that then I suggest an eye doctor.
Sangral Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Captain Blue:
Originally posted by Tr0w:
Wrong, side by side shots in this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0rmjGJgoQ

You are wrong he clearly says the comparisons are from him using an upscaler and the best possible video cable he could find. That's not really how MGS would have looked back in the day on an old TV.

Nobody talks about "back in the day on an old TV".
Fact is the PS1 version of this, as well as all PS1 games, scale "near neighbor" and are always pixel sharp no matter if you play PS1 games today on a 1080p or 4K TV.

Heck, you can put in your PS1 disc into a PS3 right now on a new TV and it will look razor sharp.

That's how it should be. Nobody talks about old TVs and bad video signals.

Just look at my twitch link above and you can see the difference between blurry and sharp live in the brand new Master Collection itself thanks to a PS4 bug.
Last edited by Sangral; Oct 24, 2023 @ 4:00pm
Captain Blue Oct 24, 2023 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Sangral:
Originally posted by Captain Blue:

You are wrong he clearly says the comparisons are from him using an upscaler and the best possible video cable he could find. That's not really how MGS would have looked back in the day on an old TV.

Nobody talks about "back in the day on an old TV".
Fact is the PS1 version of this, as well as all PS1 games, scale "near neighbor" and are always pixel sharp no matter if you play PS1 games today on a 1080p or 4K TV.

Heck, you can put in your PS1 disc into a PS3 right now on a new TV and it will look razor sharp.

That's how it should be. Nobody talks about old TVs and bad video signals.

Just look at my twitch link above and you can see the difference between blurry and sharp live in the brand new Master Collection itself thanks to a PS4 bug.

I played the PS store version of MGS on the PS3 that was included in the Legacy collection maybe 4 or so years ago and that ♥♥♥♥ was blurry as ♥♥♥♥... on a 1080p monitor.
Even if you used a disc version of the game it's still using the same PSone emulator on the PS3.

What you're saying isn't true at all.
Last edited by Captain Blue; Oct 24, 2023 @ 4:13pm
Captain Blue Oct 24, 2023 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by Sangral:
Originally posted by koyoinu:
IT literally looks how it did on back on disc with the PS1 dont understand why people are saying it looks blurry maybe cause our brains are so used to 1080p - 4k that this game looks blurry but i see no diffrence

It literally does not. The PS1 game was always pixel sharp if you played it on an HD TV on a PS3, this game always scaled near neighbor and was just sharp. That it's blurry right now is a filter and people above already liked some videos where you can see the direct difference.

Look here at 9 minutes.

https://youtu.be/3U0rmjGJgoQ?si=G6abZ2WTsonal_yX

Or, Christ, look at my posting just above yours where someone shows the bug on PS4 where it changes between blurry and not blurry.

If you can't see that then I suggest an eye doctor.

Gman is using a hardware upscaler...
Sangral Oct 24, 2023 @ 11:49pm 
Originally posted by Captain Blue:
Originally posted by Sangral:

Nobody talks about "back in the day on an old TV".
Fact is the PS1 version of this, as well as all PS1 games, scale "near neighbor" and are always pixel sharp no matter if you play PS1 games today on a 1080p or 4K TV.

Heck, you can put in your PS1 disc into a PS3 right now on a new TV and it will look razor sharp.

That's how it should be. Nobody talks about old TVs and bad video signals.

Just look at my twitch link above and you can see the difference between blurry and sharp live in the brand new Master Collection itself thanks to a PS4 bug.

I played the PS store version of MGS on the PS3 that was included in the Legacy collection maybe 4 or so years ago and that ♥♥♥♥ was blurry as ♥♥♥♥... on a 1080p monitor.
Even if you used a disc version of the game it's still using the same PSone emulator on the PS3.

What you're saying isn't true at all.

It 100% is true, I know what I'm saying dude.
On PS3 for PS1 games you actually had the option between a smoothing filter for PS1 games and no filter and if you picked no filter then it was razor sharp and scaled up perfectly. It has nothing to do with resolution, it's how near neighbor games automatically scale. That's the same reason an SNES pixel game looks automatically like 4K on your 4K TV, cause they pixel scale.

Get your facts together.
For Christ sake, you can see in the Twitch video that I linked that the new released version of it can be played without that filter (via bug) and in pixel razor sharp.
And that's a 900p twitch stream while the game still appears like native res in it.
I don't know what else to tell you, I'm tired arguing with people who have no clue and spread wrong facts.

Here are some screenshots, from my 1440p phone, from that 900p Twitch stream and you can still see the game being razor sharp. Why? Because it has nothing to do with resolution when it scales near neighbor, it never did.
You see the game with the filter, and without on a real PS4 with the new release.

Example1
With filter:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Br7TZ7.png

Without it thanks to a bug:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Br7jA2.png

Example 2
With filter:
https://a.l3n.co/i/Br7tOT.png

Without it:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Br7rTz.png

Example 3
With filter:
https://b.l3n.co/i/Br78Zi.png

Without it:
https://a.l3n.co/i/Br7InC.png

Last edited by Sangral; Oct 25, 2023 @ 12:03am
Captain Blue Oct 25, 2023 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Sangral:
Originally posted by Captain Blue:

I played the PS store version of MGS on the PS3 that was included in the Legacy collection maybe 4 or so years ago and that ♥♥♥♥ was blurry as ♥♥♥♥... on a 1080p monitor.
Even if you used a disc version of the game it's still using the same PSone emulator on the PS3.

What you're saying isn't true at all.

It 100% is true, I know what I'm saying dude.
On PS3 for PS1 games you actually had the option between a smoothing filter for PS1 games and no filter and if you picked no filter then it was razor sharp and scaled up perfectly. It has nothing to do with resolution, it's how near neighbor games automatically scale. That's the same reason an SNES pixel game looks automatically like 4K on your 4K TV, cause they pixel scale.

Get your facts together.
For Christ sake, you can see in the Twitch video that I linked that the new released version of it can be played without that filter (via bug) and in pixel razor sharp.
And that's a 900p twitch stream while the game still appears like native res in it.
I don't know what else to tell you, I'm tired arguing with people who have no clue and spread wrong facts.

Here are some screenshots, from my 1440p phone, from that 900p Twitch stream and you can still see the game being razor sharp. Why? Because it has nothing to do with resolution when it scales near neighbor, it never did.
You see the game with the filter, and without on a real PS4 with the new release.

Example1
With filter:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Br7TZ7.png

Without it thanks to a bug:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Br7jA2.png

Example 2
With filter:
https://a.l3n.co/i/Br7tOT.png

Without it:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Br7rTz.png

Example 3
With filter:
https://b.l3n.co/i/Br78Zi.png

Without it:
https://a.l3n.co/i/Br7InC.png

I literally played the Psone version on PS3 I couldn't believe how blurry the game was.

So what you're saying about the ps3 version looking sharp is totally false.

I'm not denying there isn't a bug to remove the filter but there was no way to remove the filtering in the PS3 version... The smoothing function you speak of was the same as the PS2 smoothing for PSone games.. It was more like anti aliasing than a filter.

I assure you there was no way to make the MGS on the PS3 "razor sharp" |it was blurry no matter what you did smoothing on or off... I actually do know what I'm talking about and do have my facts straight. It was blurry or slightly less blurry those were your options on PS3. I vividly remember being disappointed with how bad it looked on PS3 on my 1080p monitor.

Do I have to get my PS3 out and set up just to prove you wrong?

Even if you remove the filter it will never looks as sharp as Gmanlives using his hardware upscaler on real PSone hardware. Which is what I'm talking about..

Sure you could remove the filtering and make it less blurry but it will never be as sharp as Gmans
Last edited by Captain Blue; Oct 25, 2023 @ 5:16am
Doktor Mandrake Oct 25, 2023 @ 5:12am 
It's the bilinear filtering that's causing it to look blurrier then normal

It should be using nearest neighbour, really the fact they over-looked this shows how lazy it is
Last edited by Doktor Mandrake; Oct 25, 2023 @ 5:13am
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