The MGS1 remake is not included ?!?!

[randomprinnyx9]

What the hell ? Why ?

[The Eleventh Doctor]

Because it was made by a seperate studio, and it only released on Gamecube, also including Nintendo references.

Also this is Volume 1, we could see it later.

[randomprinnyx9]

Originally posted by Toaster Repair Pony:

Because it was made by a seperate studio, and it only released on Gamecube, also including Nintendo references.

Also this is Volume 1, we could see it later.

What does that mean ?

That's a missed opportunity because they are adding a bunch of MGS1 versions but not the remake, that make no sense.

[Deathraven13]

MGS TTS sold poorly, the second worst sold MGS, it sold less than 80 000 units yet Metal gear survive sold +700 000 units.

So they are selling the popular ones and adding the very old NES games because why not.

[The Eleventh Doctor]

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

Originally posted by Toaster Repair Pony:

Because it was made by a seperate studio, and it only released on Gamecube, also including Nintendo references.

Also this is Volume 1, we could see it later.

What does that mean ?

That's a missed opportunity because they are adding a bunch of MGS1 versions but not the remake, that make no sense.

It's most likely the rights of the game

[randomprinnyx9]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

MGS TTS sold poorly, the second worst sold MGS, it sold less than 80 000 units yet Metal gear survive sold +700 000 units.

So they are selling the popular ones and adding the very old NES games because why not.

It sold that bad ? Wasn't It like a good remake ? Back in my days my brother bought a Gamecube just to play it (and got other games too but he was a real MGS fan).

Originally posted by Toaster Repair Pony:

It's most likely the rights of the game

With Nintendo ? Or about the stock footage that was supposed to be resolved ?

[The Eleventh Doctor]

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

MGS TTS sold poorly, the second worst sold MGS, it sold less than 80 000 units yet Metal gear survive sold +700 000 units.

So they are selling the popular ones and adding the very old NES games because why not.

It sold that bad ? Wasn't It like a good remake ? Back in my days my brother bought a Gamecube just to play it (and got other games too but he was a real MGS fan).

Originally posted by Toaster Repair Pony:

It's most likely the rights of the game

With Nintendo ? Or about the stock footage that was supposed to be resolved ?

Nintendo and Sillicon Knights, the company that made it.

Also yeah, it sold poorly because, the last MG game to come out on a Nintendo console was Snakes Revenge in the 80s, it was a remake of the original MGS1, which most people had already played, even if it was a good remake, and plus it came out on 2004, where most people had moved on from Gamecube, since it was one of Nintendos worst selling consoles,and the audience for MGS was on the PS2.

The same happened with MGS2 Substance on Xbox, it didnt even break a million copies

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

It sold that bad ? Wasn't It like a good remake ? Back in my days my brother bought a Gamecube just to play it (and got other games too but he was a real MGS fan).

No it was pretty bad, MGS1 didn't have in mind Snake using tranq weapons, hanging, the OST is inferior to the OG and the cutscenes....... pretty horrible.

So it sold poorly hence it being the 2nd worst saled MGS (first being Ghost Babel on GBC).

[randomprinnyx9]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

No it was pretty bad, MGS1 didn't have in mind Snake using tranq weapons, hanging, the OST is inferior to the OG and the cutscenes....... pretty horrible.

So it sold poorly hence it being the 2nd worst saled MGS (first being Ghost Babel on GBC).

I didn't play the old version so I can't say, guess Konami doesn't want my money for now.

Originally posted by Toaster Repair Pony:

Nintendo and Sillicon Knights, the company that made it.

Also yeah, it sold poorly because, the last MG game to come out on a Nintendo console was Snakes Revenge in the 80s, it was a remake of the original MGS1, which most people had already played, even if it was a good remake, and plus it came out on 2004, where most people had moved on from Gamecube, since it was one of Nintendos worst selling consoles,and the audience for MGS was on the PS2.

The same happened with MGS2 Substance on Xbox, it didnt even break a million copies

Ok thanks for the infos dood, i guess the bad sales played a role here since konami want money and if even metal gear garbage sold more copies.......

Well topic closed.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

MGS TTS sold poorly, the second worst sold MGS, it sold less than 80 000 units yet Metal gear survive sold +700 000 units.

So they are selling the popular ones and adding the very old NES games because why not.

It sold that bad ? Wasn't It like a good remake ? Back in my days my brother bought a Gamecube just to play it (and got other games too but he was a real MGS fan).

Originally posted by Toaster Repair Pony:

It's most likely the rights of the game

With Nintendo ? Or about the stock footage that was supposed to be resolved ?

It sold that bad because it was a Gamecube exclusive, and fans of Metal Gear Solid purchased a PS2 to play Metal Gear Solid 2/3.

So TS was stuck in a console owned by people that didn't care much about Metal Gear Solid.

[Sekoku]

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

What the hell ? Why ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Knights#Lawsuit_with_Epic_Games

Originally posted by Wikipedia:

As a result, on November 7, 2012, Silicon Knights was directed by the court to destroy all game code derived from Unreal Engine 3 and all information from licensee-restricted areas of Epic's Unreal Engine documentation website, and to permit Epic Games access to the company's servers and other devices to ensure these items had been removed. In addition, the studio was instructed to recall and destroy all unsold retail copies of games built with Unreal Engine 3 code, including Too Human, X-Men Destiny, The Sandman, The Box/Ritualyst, and Siren in the Maelstrom (the latter three titles were projects never released, or even officially announced).[18]

I forget if the Twin Snakes was on Unreal (not 3, but 2?), but Silicon Knights dying means the source code was probably lost. It isn't a Konami made game, and besides: Most fans hate all the changes (and easier difficulty) that TTS did to MGS1.

Could possibly come in "Volume 2" but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[The Eleventh Doctor]

Originally posted by Sekoku:

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

What the hell ? Why ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Knights#Lawsuit_with_Epic_Games

Originally posted by Wikipedia:

As a result, on November 7, 2012, Silicon Knights was directed by the court to destroy all game code derived from Unreal Engine 3 and all information from licensee-restricted areas of Epic's Unreal Engine documentation website, and to permit Epic Games access to the company's servers and other devices to ensure these items had been removed. In addition, the studio was instructed to recall and destroy all unsold retail copies of games built with Unreal Engine 3 code, including Too Human, X-Men Destiny, The Sandman, The Box/Ritualyst, and Siren in the Maelstrom (the latter three titles were projects never released, or even officially announced).[18]

I forget if the Twin Snakes was on Unreal (not 3, but 2?), but Silicon Knights dying means the source code was probably lost. It isn't a Konami made game, and besides: Most fans hate all the changes (and easier difficulty) that TTS did to MGS1.

Could possibly come in "Volume 2" but I wouldn't hold my breath.

The Twin Snakes was on the MGS2 Engine, not Unreal

[Yoda]

Originally posted by randomprinnyx9:

What the hell ? Why ?

Well i got banned for saying master collection sucks without peace walker. So yes a lot of features are missing.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by Todd Howard:

Well i got banned for saying master collection sucks without peace walker. So yes a lot of features are missing.

I mean if all you did was say that then I understand why it happened to you, are you saying it was unfair ?

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

It sold that bad because it was a Gamecube exclusive, and fans of Metal Gear Solid purchased a PS2 to play Metal Gear Solid 2/3.

So TS was stuck in a console owned by people that didn't care much about Metal Gear Solid.

MGS portable Ops sold more copies and it was only on PSP.

Originally posted by Sekoku:

I forget if the Twin Snakes was on Unreal (not 3, but 2?), but Silicon Knights dying means the source code was probably lost. It isn't a Konami made game, and besides: Most fans hate all the changes (and easier difficulty) that TTS did to MGS1.

Could possibly come in "Volume 2" but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[illage2]

Simple because Nintendo own the rights to this specific remake not Konami.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by illage2:

Simple because Nintendo own the rights to this specific remake not Konami.

You know, just like OP now I'm wondering why Nintendo wouldn't want them to let konami port the game and just ask a cut, they'll get free money for doing nothing.