Konami, please never include Twin Snakes

[YellowJello]

It's a bad game that shouldn't have been made. It's not worth the licensing and modifying that would be required. People that like Twin Snakes probably also like weird things like putting mayo on pizza.

[Freeman]

Yup, Twin Snakes is completely and utterly awful in just about every way. It deserves to be forgotten.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by YellowJello:

It's a bad game that shouldn't have been made. It's not worth the licensing and modifying that would be required. People that like Twin Snakes probably also like weird things like putting mayo on pizza.

That's very inaccurate to say the least. The only thing really bad about it is the cutscenes, which are skipable anyway so...

[Freeman]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by YellowJello:

It's a bad game that shouldn't have been made. It's not worth the licensing and modifying that would be required. People that like Twin Snakes probably also like weird things like putting mayo on pizza.

That's very inaccurate to say the least. The only thing really bad about it is the cutscenes, which are skipable anyway so...

Voice actors feel like they did not give a damn (Especially Jennifer Hale). The soundtrack is generic and forgettable, the controls are a mess, and the hastily thrown together MGS2 gameplay elements breaks the game.

The over-the-top ridiculous cutscenes is far from the only problem with Twin Snakes.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Freeman:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

That's very inaccurate to say the least. The only thing really bad about it is the cutscenes, which are skipable anyway so...

Voice actors feel like they did not give a damn (Especially Jennifer Hale). The soundtrack is generic and forgettable, the controls are a mess, and the hastily thrown together MGS2 gameplay elements breaks the game.

The over-the-top ridiculous cutscenes is far from the only problem with Twin Snakes.

I wasn't saying it is the only one, but the biggest problem. About the soundtrack, there's a mod that replaces the new one with the original, I'm quite sure the mod could be ported to the PC version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5DZPLZx6s4

The same can be done with voice lines, it's just a lot of work, probably. Cutscenes, though, well... there's no way to fix them.

And you don't need to use MGS2 gameplay elements if you don't want to, right?

[Aker]

Originally posted by YellowJello:

It's a bad game that shouldn't have been made. It's not worth the licensing and modifying that would be required. People that like Twin Snakes probably also like weird things like putting mayo on pizza.

They won't, because Silicon Knights owned partial rights and went bankrupt about ten years back. Plus it has some Nintendo stuff in it that Nintendo would have to sign off on allowing to be included on other platforms, or Konami would have to modify the game to include something else. And even if it did get included, you wouldn't have to play it if you didn't want to.

I like Twin Snakes as an option because it gives you more ways to experiment with features and level design in MGS1, but I agree that the music, voice acting and cutscenes suck. That's why I'm excited for the mods being done. There's a mod being made to replace the dialogue and fix the cutscenes that should go along well with the music mod.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Aker:

Originally posted by YellowJello:

It's a bad game that shouldn't have been made. It's not worth the licensing and modifying that would be required. People that like Twin Snakes probably also like weird things like putting mayo on pizza.

There's a mod being made to replace the dialogue and fix the cutscenes

How? The idea is using the cutscenes from the original MGS?

[Owlet VII]

Originally posted by Aker:

Plus it has some Nintendo stuff in it that Nintendo would have to sign off on allowing to be included on other platforms, or Konami would have to modify the game to include something else.

That's the dumbest excuse being thrown around. It wouldn't be difficult to remove a Mario funko pop and re-texture a 10 polygon GameCube model, that's literally the easiest part about re-releasing Twin Snakes.

[Freeman]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by Freeman:

Voice actors feel like they did not give a damn (Especially Jennifer Hale). The soundtrack is generic and forgettable, the controls are a mess, and the hastily thrown together MGS2 gameplay elements breaks the game.

The over-the-top ridiculous cutscenes is far from the only problem with Twin Snakes.

I wasn't saying it is the only one, but the biggest problem. About the soundtrack, there's a mod that replaces the new one with the original, I'm quite sure the mod could be ported to the PC version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5DZPLZx6s4

The same can be done with voice lines, it's just a lot of work, probably. Cutscenes, though, well... there's no way to fix them.

And you don't need to use MGS2 gameplay elements if you don't want to, right?

My point is that Twin Snakes is objectively the worst way to play through and experience Metal Gear Solid 1, especially if you haven't played the original. Someone whose never played any of the games might start twin Twin Snakes because of the fancy new graphics and walk away with a sour taste for the franchise.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Freeman:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

I wasn't saying it is the only one, but the biggest problem. About the soundtrack, there's a mod that replaces the new one with the original, I'm quite sure the mod could be ported to the PC version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5DZPLZx6s4

The same can be done with voice lines, it's just a lot of work, probably. Cutscenes, though, well... there's no way to fix them.

And you don't need to use MGS2 gameplay elements if you don't want to, right?

My point is that Twin Snakes is objectively the worst way to play through and experience Metal Gear Solid 1

A lot of young gamers would disagree with that. If you show them both games, they'll certainly be more interested in playing TS and will consider it better than the original.

Anyway, it doesn't even matter if TS is "good or bad", fans of the franchise would like to have all games in digital format just like they do in physical format.

[arksolid_puau]

+1

[YellowJello]

I heard that people who like Twin Snakes smell funny and don't put hot sauce in the fridge.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by YellowJello:

I heard that people who like Twin Snakes smell funny and don't put hot sauce in the fridge.

So you're finally admitting what you're doing here? Well... thanks, I guess.

[YellowJello]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by YellowJello:

I heard that people who like Twin Snakes smell funny and don't put hot sauce in the fridge.

So you're finally admitting what you're doing here? Well... thanks, I guess.

..Did you read the thread? Was the point of the thread not already clear?

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by YellowJello:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

So you're finally admitting what you're doing here? Well... thanks, I guess.

..Did you read the thread? Was the point of the thread not already clear?

It shouldn't be so difficult to understand my previous post. Try again.

[Freeman]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by Freeman:

My point is that Twin Snakes is objectively the worst way to play through and experience Metal Gear Solid 1

A lot of young gamers would disagree with that. If you show them both games, they'll certainly be more interested in playing TS and will consider it better than the original.

Most likely because of the fancy new graphics and the MGS2 gameplay. Of course they're gonna think it's better if they haven't played the original.

Sure, doesn't matter if it's good or bad, but I highly doubt Konami is going to bother with all the legal stuff required to put the game on a non-Nintendo system, especially since it's generally looked down upon by a large part of the community.