METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID - Master Collection Version

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ReiKaz Aug 22, 2023 @ 12:23am
320x240 MGS1 on Nintendo Switch
This is.. disappointing. That probably also means same resolution is on all consoles and PC.
They at least should make higher resolution, not even talking about any enhancements or remastering.
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YellowJello Aug 22, 2023 @ 4:43pm 
Then don't buy it. It's not advertised as a remaster. It's a rerelease.
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ReiKaz Aug 22, 2023 @ 10:20pm 
Is not about buy or not buy. Is masterpiece and you expect at least a little bit respect while re-presenting to everyone after 20+ years. if they don't want touch game at all, at least somewhat more acceptable resolution.. is not that crazy hard work
YellowJello Aug 22, 2023 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by ReiKaz:
Is not about buy or not buy. Is masterpiece and you expect at least a little bit respect while re-presenting to everyone after 20+ years. if they don't want touch game at all, at least somewhat more acceptable resolution.. is not that crazy hard work
lol then you do it.
Major_Tom Aug 22, 2023 @ 11:47pm 
4k/60fps should be the standard on pc for these games. I still believe they are all going to be emulated. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Cyber Nyran Aug 23, 2023 @ 2:59am 
Originally posted by ReiKaz:
This is.. disappointing. That probably also means same resolution is on all consoles and PC.
They at least should make higher resolution, not even talking about any enhancements or remastering.
it should absolutely support higher resolutions. Mods will come to fix it on PC, but still the devs should just do it on release.
Afevis Solmunko Aug 23, 2023 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
4k/60fps should be the standard on pc for these games. I still believe they are all going to be emulated. Happy to be proven wrong though.
They've already confirmed and shown that they've fixed numerous bugs with MGS2 & MGS3 that were present in the old HD collection release. Theyve also had to rerender 6 in-game cutscenes with different footage due to licensing issues. Those two things alone are a giant sign that they're not all emulated fam.
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Major_Tom Aug 23, 2023 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
4k/60fps should be the standard on pc for these games. I still believe they are all going to be emulated. Happy to be proven wrong though.
They've already confirmed and shown that they've fixed numerous bugs with MGS2 & MGS3 that were present in the old HD collection release. Theyve also had to rerender 6 in-game cutscenes with different footage due to licensing issues. Those two things alone are a giant sign that they're not all emulated fam.

None of that really points to these games not being emulated though does it. My understanding is the bugs that have been fixed are visual and the in game cut-scenes are the historical footage fmv's. The games could still be running on a custom emulator, it's entirely probable considering the news regarding resolution and frame rate. A more telling sign will be the system requirements to run the games, kind of fishy they don't have any yet.
Last edited by Major_Tom; Aug 23, 2023 @ 5:32am
Veotax Aug 23, 2023 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
4k/60fps should be the standard on pc for these games. I still believe they are all going to be emulated. Happy to be proven wrong though.
MGS 2 & 3 are not emulated, jesus christ.

Do you really think they're releasing PS3/360 games emulated? That would never run on the Switch. Unless you really think they made native ports of those games for the Switch and settled for emulation for all the other platforms.

MGS1 is emulated. The MSX games are emulated. The NES games are emulated. The PS3/360 are not emulated, that would be ludicrous.
TGP482 Aug 23, 2023 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by Veotax:
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
4k/60fps should be the standard on pc for these games. I still believe they are all going to be emulated. Happy to be proven wrong though.
MGS 2 & 3 are not emulated, jesus christ.

Do you really think they're releasing PS3/360 games emulated? That would never run on the Switch. Unless you really think they made native ports of those games for the Switch and settled for emulation for all the other platforms.

MGS1 is emulated. The MSX games are emulated. The NES games are emulated. The PS3/360 are not emulated, that would be ludicrous.
Almost as if Microsoft managed to run OG Xbox/360 games on dated 2013 Xbox One hardware perfectly via emulation lol, not really far fetched. MGS are still just PS2 games at their core ported to PS3/360, which makes emulation easier by default.
Last edited by TGP482; Aug 23, 2023 @ 10:51am
Major_Tom Aug 23, 2023 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Veotax:
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
4k/60fps should be the standard on pc for these games. I still believe they are all going to be emulated. Happy to be proven wrong though.
MGS 2 & 3 are not emulated, jesus christ.

Do you really think they're releasing PS3/360 games emulated? That would never run on the Switch. Unless you really think they made native ports of those games for the Switch and settled for emulation for all the other platforms.

MGS1 is emulated. The MSX games are emulated. The NES games are emulated. The PS3/360 are not emulated, that would be ludicrous.

the switch version suffers from fps drops and slowdowns from the targeted 30 frames. Like I said It could very well be a custom emulator. Konami could even potentially use it for other collections like Silent Hill. Why are the games only 1080p on pc and playstation/xbox? Where are the system requirements? Why is this so hard to believe? All signs point to the La Li Lu Le Lo
Fat Jesus Aug 23, 2023 @ 1:40pm 
There are external emulators to play MGS1 on with higher resolutions and if you are a psycho you can use geometry correction to fix the wobbly polygons. also overclocking if you want a steady 30fps (60fps makes almost no difference in my eyes for MGS1)
Afevis Solmunko Aug 23, 2023 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
the switch version suffers from fps drops and slowdowns from the targeted 30 frames.
A /DEVELOPMENT/ build of the Switch version, which Konami has stated that was NOT the final product, and that they're still working on optimizations for.

These games are NOT gold yet.
Last edited by Afevis Solmunko; Aug 23, 2023 @ 1:52pm
Major_Tom Aug 23, 2023 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Afevis Solmunko:
Originally posted by Major_Tom:
the switch version suffers from fps drops and slowdowns from the targeted 30 frames.
A /DEVELOPMENT/ build of the Switch version, which Konami has stated that was NOT the final product, and that they're still working on optimizations for.

These games are NOT gold yet.

true, but no indication that the games are not emulated. How do you explain 30 frames cap on switch and the low resolution on playstation, xbox, and pc. What reason could they have for capping the resolution on pc at 1080p? It doesn't make any sense. Also, Still no system requirements for the collection. Strange as they surely are not testing for requirements just 2 months before release. I'm guessing they wont make them known until close to the release date. None of this adds up and I believe it points to the collection being emulated.
Major_Tom Aug 23, 2023 @ 3:18pm 
Originally posted by Heisenberg:
Originally posted by Veotax:
MGS 2 & 3 are not emulated, jesus christ.

Do you really think they're releasing PS3/360 games emulated? That would never run on the Switch. Unless you really think they made native ports of those games for the Switch and settled for emulation for all the other platforms.

MGS1 is emulated. The MSX games are emulated. The NES games are emulated. The PS3/360 are not emulated, that would be ludicrous.
Almost as if Microsoft managed to run OG Xbox/360 games on dated 2013 Xbox One hardware perfectly via emulation lol, not really far fetched. MGS are still just PS2 games at their core ported to PS3/360, which makes emulation easier by default.

True, I wonder why people think that it isn't possible.

Yeah Mr White! Yeah science!
OkemaN Aug 24, 2023 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by YellowJello:
Originally posted by ReiKaz:
Is not about buy or not buy. Is masterpiece and you expect at least a little bit respect while re-presenting to everyone after 20+ years. if they don't want touch game at all, at least somewhat more acceptable resolution.. is not that crazy hard work
lol then you do it.
look at this smartass
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