Just play it on the DuckStation PS1 emulator

[Benoz, Il Dio Drago Drugo Fieroh]

You can play the game legally on DuckStation (the best PlayStation emulator) if you own the original game. Apparently this Master Collection version is just an emulated PlayStation version.

So if you want to play an emulated version...just emulate it?

The PlayStation version is better than the PC one, the one that was rereleased on Gog.com years ago and that was pulled off from the store because the licenses of some stock footage expired. I played all the versions of Metal Gear Solid and the best one is the original (or the Integral still on PS1, if you're japanese). On PC you lacked many graphical effects, like motion blur and the stealth camo effects, had worse controls but had better resolution and no graphical artifacts characteristics of the "PS1 look", results of its hardware components, or lack of them.

On DuckStation you can have the best from both versions: scaleable resolution and original PlayStation graphical effects, controls and other console specific features.

AND on DuckStation you have enhancing options to fix the warped textures, the "wobblyness" of the models, support for widescreen up to 16x. These options aren't perfect but make for a much greater visual experience.

And for those disappointed by lack of mouse and keyboard controls, or should I say exclusively keyboard controls, remember that the old controls were terrible, it was a straight X button here is Y button there, it wasn't a fancy and thought out PC exclusive layout. But since you're on Steam you can do what you want with your controls, you can emulate keyboard and mouse with a controller...and viceversa. You can do the same on an emulator, as you may imagine.

So simply emulate it and don't support overpriced stuff that does almost nothing to help preservation. They're selling old ports of games that have more than 20 years and remasters that are now 11 years old. I'll be grateful and willing to pay overpriced ports only if they manage to bring MGS3 and, especially, MGS4 on PC with all their features.

[cheetah1546]

Nguyên văn bởi Sm0k3f47h3r:

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

It was, MGS1 in 2000, MGS2 in 2003. Metal Gear 1 and 2 were originally PC games. MG1, MGS1, and MGS2 were re-released on GOG in 2020.

there are some ppl organizing konami ticket thingies to get them to implement this feature again. maybe you can help the cause by sending them a ticket too.

kb+m seems interesting to me for mgs delta and 4. i hope they include the option there right from the get go.

Edit: there i found it for you in the mgs 3 forum:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2131650/discussions/0/3803901559402687064/

There's no way he's going to take the time and effort to do that, though.

I, on the other hand, just submitted one.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Why removed kb&m? It was never released before on PC.

It was, MGS1 in 2000, MGS2 in 2003. Metal Gear 1 and 2 were originally PC games. MG1, MGS1, and MGS2 were re-released on GOG in 2020.

First of all metal gear 1 and 2 were msx games, not PC games.
Secondly, mgs2 is based on the hd collection which was never released on PC like I said.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Nguyên văn bởi Sm0k3f47h3r:

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

It was, MGS1 in 2000, MGS2 in 2003. Metal Gear 1 and 2 were originally PC games. MG1, MGS1, and MGS2 were re-released on GOG in 2020.

there are some ppl organizing konami ticket thingies to get them to implement this feature again. maybe you can help the cause by sending them a ticket too.

kb+m seems interesting to me for mgs delta and 4. i hope they include the option there right from the get go.

Edit: there i found it for you in the mgs 3 forum:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2131650/discussions/0/3803901559402687064/

Include keyboard and mouse controls in a PS3 game? Sure, they still release patches for PS3 games right?

[Owlet VII]

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

It was, MGS1 in 2000, MGS2 in 2003. Metal Gear 1 and 2 were originally PC games. MG1, MGS1, and MGS2 were re-released on GOG in 2020.

First of all metal gear 1 and 2 were msx games, not PC games.
Secondly, mgs2 is based on the hd collection which was never released on PC like I said.

An MSX is a PC. Even if you wanna get pissy about definitions, it was played with a keyboard either way. Also, I forgot that the NES version of MG1 was also ported to PC (DOS).

As for this being based on the HD Collection, I fail to see your point. The HD Collection in itself was a port, one that was tailored to the platforms that it was released on at the time. It would be like saying that re-releasing MGS2 on PC with a locked 720x448 resolution isn't removing an option that was available on the PC version before, because the same codebase was optimised for a different port to a different platform in the past.

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Nguyên văn bởi cheetah1546:

Did you not read what Kaos just posted?

Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Christ, he was responding to YOUR insinuation of censorship. You're the one who brought up censorship out of nowhere. There's no censorship in this collection, nobody was talking about that.

I re-read the first page of this thread, and I realised that it was indeed KaosReigns who first brought up the topic of censorship out of nowhere, so I have to apologise for directing my outburst at you. I still think your posts are bad though.

[KaosReigns]

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

I re-read the first page of this thread, and I realised that it was indeed KaosReigns who first brought up the topic of censorship out of nowhere, so I have to apologise for directing my outburst at you. I still think your posts are bad though.

...... You need to read again then. Dont throw out false accusation, there isnt too much more annoying.

Okay, actually the mistake was on my end. When I read the post I replied to, I read it in a completely different way as to what was meant. I just re-read that post, and I was very incorrect on what was being referenced.

The scene I thought you were referring to was the cutscene about peeping on Meryl. Which would be directly linked to censorship if removed.

Whoops. My bad.

[helldraco]

Nguyên văn bởi Afevis Solmunko:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/metal_gear_solid
It's back on GOG.
Also there's a fix for most of the issues the PC version had, including adding widescreen/ultra wide support.
https://mgs.w00ty.com/mgs1/launcher/

Am I dreaming or konami is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that there's gonna be TWO DIFFERENT metal gear solid on PC ? One is the rerelease of the PC version and one is a PS1 (really poorly made) emulation ?

I mean, you look at the screenshot and there CLEARLY a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ difference ...

That can't be right, right ?

[Owlet VII]

Nguyên văn bởi helldraco:

Nguyên văn bởi Afevis Solmunko:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/metal_gear_solid
It's back on GOG.
Also there's a fix for most of the issues the PC version had, including adding widescreen/ultra wide support.
https://mgs.w00ty.com/mgs1/launcher/

Am I dreaming or konami is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that there's gonna be TWO DIFFERENT metal gear solid on PC ? One is the rerelease of the PC version and one is a PS1 (really poorly made) emulation ?

I mean, you look at the screenshot and there CLEARLY a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ difference ...

That can't be right, right ?

Yeah, that's right. Except the PC port was re-released on GOG three years ago, and isn't coming to Steam any time soon.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Nguyên văn bởi cheetah1546:

Nguyên văn bởi Sm0k3f47h3r:

there are some ppl organizing konami ticket thingies to get them to implement this feature again. maybe you can help the cause by sending them a ticket too.

kb+m seems interesting to me for mgs delta and 4. i hope they include the option there right from the get go.

Edit: there i found it for you in the mgs 3 forum:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2131650/discussions/0/3803901559402687064/

There's no way he's going to take the time and effort to do that, though.

I, on the other hand, just submitted one.

that's the right mindset

i read on steam forums that the native pc ports of mgs games had kb+m controls. i don't rly understand why konami decided not to include them if they already were available.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Nguyên văn bởi Sm0k3f47h3r:

there are some ppl organizing konami ticket thingies to get them to implement this feature again. maybe you can help the cause by sending them a ticket too.

kb+m seems interesting to me for mgs delta and 4. i hope they include the option there right from the get go.

Edit: there i found it for you in the mgs 3 forum:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2131650/discussions/0/3803901559402687064/

Include keyboard and mouse controls in a PS3 game? Sure, they still release patches for PS3 games right?

you don't seem to understand english very well but that is ok. maybe this you trying to bait ppl. idk. read my post carefully again or use a translator.

as i mentioned to you directly before, mgs 4 is coming to pc next year and delta is the remake of mgs 3. i was referring to these two releases in my post.

[cheetah1546]

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

First of all metal gear 1 and 2 were msx games, not PC games.
Secondly, mgs2 is based on the hd collection which was never released on PC like I said.

An MSX is a PC. Even if you wanna get pissy about definitions, it was played with a keyboard either way. Also, I forgot that the NES version of MG1 was also ported to PC (DOS).

As for this being based on the HD Collection, I fail to see your point. The HD Collection in itself was a port, one that was tailored to the platforms that it was released on at the time. It would be like saying that re-releasing MGS2 on PC with a locked 720x448 resolution isn't removing an option that was available on the PC version before, because the same codebase was optimized for a different port to a different platform in the past.

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Christ, he was responding to YOUR insinuation of censorship. You're the one who brought up censorship out of nowhere. There's no censorship in this collection, nobody was talking about that.

I re-read the first page of this thread, and I realized that it was indeed KaosReigns who first brought up the topic of censorship out of nowhere, so I have to apologize for directing my outburst at you. I still think your posts are bad though.

Hey, Owlet. That's totally ok man. You didn't say anything wrong really.

I like a lot of Kaos' posts so I tend to respond well to them.

I apologize for at any point talking about censorship. Because it's entirely possible there will not be any. And even if say a single scene gets cut out for that, I won't bring it up. I'll let someone else do it. And my stance is that I don't mind it. I am fine either way. But I need to keep my thoughts about other forums out of the Metal Gear one.

I respect everyone on here. I'm excited about this collection.

I've said numerous times that it doesn't need kb and mouse support. But it's because I'm convincing myself to buy this. I want to be able to play these games without GOG or an unofficial emulator. Or my PS3 and so on.

Edit: I'll try to do better posts in the future without inaccuracies.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

First of all metal gear 1 and 2 were msx games, not PC games.
Secondly, mgs2 is based on the hd collection which was never released on PC like I said.

An MSX is a PC. Even if you wanna get pissy about definitions, it was played with a keyboard either way. Also, I forgot that the NES version of MG1 was also ported to PC (DOS).

As for this being based on the HD Collection, I fail to see your point. The HD Collection in itself was a port, one that was tailored to the platforms that it was released on at the time. It would be like saying that re-releasing MGS2 on PC with a locked 720x448 resolution isn't removing an option that was available on the PC version before, because the same codebase was optimised for a different port to a different platform in the past.

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Christ, he was responding to YOUR insinuation of censorship. You're the one who brought up censorship out of nowhere. There's no censorship in this collection, nobody was talking about that.

I re-read the first page of this thread, and I realised that it was indeed KaosReigns who first brought up the topic of censorship out of nowhere, so I have to apologise for directing my outburst at you. I still think your posts are bad though.

Keyboard doesn't equal pc, a pc is based on a very specific architecture. The point is it didn't have kb&m support? They would have to add it, which judging by whom is publishing this, won't happen. They are doing very little to these games it seems.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Nguyên văn bởi Sm0k3f47h3r:

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Include keyboard and mouse controls in a PS3 game? Sure, they still release patches for PS3 games right?

you don't seem to understand english very well but that is ok. maybe this you trying to bait ppl. idk. read my post carefully again or use a translator.

as i mentioned to you directly before, mgs 4 is coming to pc next year and delta is the remake of mgs 3. i was referring to these two releases in my post.

My English skills exceed yours by an order of magnitude, just go back through our message history for confirmation.

Things that are rumored are not destined to get a release. Pretty basic logic applies here, but it's not entirely surprising that you're ignoring those facts.

And my comment was about mgs2 here, please use the quote and reply option properly in the future.

[Owlet VII]

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

An MSX is a PC. Even if you wanna get pissy about definitions, it was played with a keyboard either way.

Keyboard doesn't equal pc, a pc is based on a very specific architecture.

A PC is not the same as an IBM PC, and you'd call computers based on it an IBM PC compatible or clone if you wanted to be specific, as that's just a subset of PCs. Apple computers are also PCs. Amiga computers are also PCs. MSX computers are also PCs. Being IBM PC compatible means more than just having an architecture that's based on x86, and I'd argue that modern x86-64 PCs shouldn't be considered IBM PC compatible anymore.

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

The point is it didn't have kb&m support? They would have to add it, which judging by whom is publishing this, won't happen. They are doing very little to these games it seems.

It is still a regression from a previous version of the product. The fact that they chose not to fix that regression is a problem.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Keyboard doesn't equal pc, a pc is based on a very specific architecture.

A PC is not the same as an IBM PC, and you'd call computers based on it an IBM PC compatible or clone if you wanted to be specific, as that's just a subset of PCs. Apple computers are also PCs. Amiga computers are also PCs. MSX computers are also PCs. Being IBM PC compatible means more than just having an architecture that's based on x86, and I'd argue that modern x86-64 PCs shouldn't be considered IBM PC compatible anymore.

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

The point is it didn't have kb&m support? They would have to add it, which judging by whom is publishing this, won't happen. They are doing very little to these games it seems.

It is still a regression from a previous version of the product. The fact that they chose not to fix that regression is a problem.

Nobody calls a Mac or an msx a PC, that is all.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Nguyên văn bởi Owlet VII:

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

Keyboard doesn't equal pc, a pc is based on a very specific architecture.

A PC is not the same as an IBM PC, and you'd call computers based on it an IBM PC compatible or clone if you wanted to be specific, as that's just a subset of PCs. Apple computers are also PCs. Amiga computers are also PCs. MSX computers are also PCs. Being IBM PC compatible means more than just having an architecture that's based on x86, and I'd argue that modern x86-64 PCs shouldn't be considered IBM PC compatible anymore.

Nguyên văn bởi You mean Metal Sophear?:

The point is it didn't have kb&m support? They would have to add it, which judging by whom is publishing this, won't happen. They are doing very little to these games it seems.

It is still a regression from a previous version of the product. The fact that they chose not to fix that regression is a problem.

It would be additive, and since it's a barebones port by the looks of it, they won't "add" it.