Worth for new players?

[Kotelo]

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[4FCG]

Yes 2-3 days and you have a max lvl character, and the first few sets don't take that much farming.

[Rlm]

Depends. Tera is pretty P2W, and if you don't pay any cents, you'll need to actively grind (probably 5h+ a day) for 3+ months to get best in slot gear. And even if you do it, you'll have to repeat it when the next gear patch comes.

Are you a casual player with limited playtime, but you don't mind not having the best gear (as a casual you'll probably never reach best gear without P2W)? Then it's fine, you can go ahead and play it.

Also, if you are rich, or willing to drop hundreds of Euros on Tera and gearing, then go ahead. The game is tailored for you, you can get best gear with not much effort.

Otherwise, no.

[Star]

tera is not P2W .... you can get anything very easy.. even if your brand new aslong as you get advice on where to get items...

[4FCG]

Originally posted by Moler:

Depends. Tera is pretty P2W, and if you don't pay any cents, you'll need to actively grind (probably 5h+ a day) for 3+ months to get best in slot gear. And even if you do it, you'll have to repeat it when the next gear patch comes.

Are you a casual player with limited playtime, but you don't mind not having the best gear (as a casual you'll probably never reach best gear without P2W)? Then it's fine, you can go ahead and play it.

Also, if you are rich, or willing to drop hundreds of Euros on Tera and gearing, then go ahead. The game is tailored for you, you can get best gear with not much effort.

Otherwise, no.

Getting the best gear is more then possible without paying a single cent, but unless you are trihard don't expect to reach it within one month. And if I meet that one random dps player who bought all his gear for godforsakenly high prices, I still outdps him becasue he is ♥♥♥♥ and has no experience.
And if you really don't want to spend too much time grearing, become a healer and heal the highest dungeons at frostmetal +0

Apart from that the new gear patch will only add a tier above what is best right now, that means you wont lose big progress because fully new sets are released.

[Rlm]

Originally posted by Star:

tera is not P2W .... you can get anything very easy.. even if your brand new aslong as you get advice on where to get items...

2.0 dragons, best underwears, etc beg to differ on your statement.

Originally posted by Noose McGoose 4FCG:

Getting the best gear is more then possible without paying a single cent, but unless you are trihard don't expect to reach it within one month.

Lol are you even playing on EU? That's literally impossible in 1 month, since even if you spam dungeons 24/7 you won't have enough gold/mats to get the current BiS in 1 month. Don't forget that the dude will start on guardian with an empty bank, not SC+0 and a bank full of gold over the years like you have.

And 'without paying' is kinda delusional. People often pay way more with their time than others pay with actual money.

[Sunflare]

TERA is indeed not p2w. One doesn't "have to" pay in order to get the best gear. They will get it eventually. Paying only saves time, so 'pay to progress faster' is more accurate. That's why people who value their time more than their money prefer to pay with money instead of time they could use to earn more money or enjoy their real life without having to grind. There has been many threads about whether TERA is (not) p2w, so it's pointless to comment it further.

As for worth for new players - why wouldn't it be? If you expect to receive best-in-slot gear at start, this just won't happen. Install the game and enjoy playing! TERA (Europe) has beautiful graphics (especially if your PC is not too old and can support higher settings; in any case, applying some performance tweaks is more than advisable) and people from all over Europe, Northern Africa, Middle East and English speakers from South-East Asia to socialise with. You can do PvE dungeons, as well as PvP battlegrounds. Choice is yours. No-one can tell you if it's "worth".

Have fun! o/

[Rlm]

Pay to progress IS pay to win by definition... And those threads always have whiteknights like you who don't know what the definition means and just has their own.

Pay to win, by definition means: if someone paying money gets ANY advantage over someone who doesn't pay a single cent, it's pay to win, period.

What most of the people should ask is "how p2w is the game", as in how much advantage can a payer get over a non-payer. That's more like a question you should be answering here, since almost all MMOs are P2W.

I know it hurts to know your favourite game is p2w, but that's reality. Get over it, stop being emotional.

[Star]

You dont have to pay to get better gear. so its not pay2win.
you can do the dungeons like everyone else and get ur gear.
I started and played for 90 days and i got all classes to apex frost and 1 guy to storm. on the new servers.
I played closed beta before but it did not carry over.
( granted i started dureing league of levelers event so i did start on twistshard. )
so its not pay2win its a Normal korean mmorpg you can do dungeons and get ur items np.
if there is one thing that is annoying is the dragon mounts with dragon skills take forever to farm for.
and you cannot buy them in the store without chanceing to lose.

[Rlm]

Originally posted by Star:

You dont have to pay to get better gear. so its not pay2win.
you can do the dungeons like everyone else and get ur gear.
I started and played for 90 days and i got all classes to apex frost and 1 guy to storm. on the new servers.
I played closed beta before but it did not carry over.
( granted i started dureing league of levelers event so i did start on twistshard. )
so its not pay2win its a Normal korean mmorpg you can do dungeons and get ur items np.
if there is one thing that is annoying is the dragon mounts with dragon skills take forever to farm for.
and you cannot buy them in the store without chanceing to lose.

You don't have to, but YOU CAN. And you can get gear way sooner than others. That's an advantage in MMOs.

Would you also say a game is not P2W if that game had an item that needed 10000 hours of grind, but also available in the store for 5€ ? By your logic that item is obtainable in game, right, so its not p2w. :)

And yes, korean MMOs are usually P2W. That's a fact. You saying that "other korean mmos are the same" doesn't make this particular korean mmo less P2W.

90% (rest from limited time events) of the 2.0 dragons in Tera are from the Tera shop. The ones you buy for 5 mill or whatever in the marketplace are from the tera shop. So the chance is not that bad to make people not buy those dragon boxes. :) Those people are P2W-ers and they get their advantage from buying these dragon boxes, which takes them 10 minute, while takes you literal months my friend, but better believe in whatever delusions that fit into your safe space.

[4FCG]

Originally posted by Moler:

Lol are you even playing on EU? That's literally impossible in 1 month, since even if you spam dungeons 24/7 you won't have enough gold/mats to get the current BiS in 1 month. Don't forget that the dude will start on guardian with an empty bank, not SC+0 and a bank full of gold over the years like you have.

And 'without paying' is kinda delusional. People often pay way more with their time than others pay with actual money.

You only pay in time if you are not enjoying yourself while playing, and when that is the case you should not be playing at all. Because tera's main goal in the late game is getting geared. When you have the best stuff, I find it that there is not much reason to keep playing the dungeon's. You have likely done them a whole bunch to get to that gear in the first place, so apart from pvp (which in my oppinion is not that great) there is nothing left after getting geared really. If it all was a whole bunch easier everyone would just be done with the game rather fast. Thus in my eyes, buying your gear is a stupid choise, as you spend a lot of money on skipping the game (And you will be ♥♥♥♥ at most things regardless of your gear).

So in short: if you don't have fun when gearing, you won't have any fun after it either.

[Star]

Originally posted by Moler:

Originally posted by Star:

You dont have to pay to get better gear. so its not pay2win.
you can do the dungeons like everyone else and get ur gear.
I started and played for 90 days and i got all classes to apex frost and 1 guy to storm. on the new servers.
I played closed beta before but it did not carry over.
( granted i started dureing league of levelers event so i did start on twistshard. )
so its not pay2win its a Normal korean mmorpg you can do dungeons and get ur items np.
if there is one thing that is annoying is the dragon mounts with dragon skills take forever to farm for.
and you cannot buy them in the store without chanceing to lose.

You don't have to, but YOU CAN. And you can get gear way sooner than others. That's an advantage in MMOs.

Would you also say a game is not P2W if that game had an item that needed 10000 hours of grind, but also available in the store for 5€ ? By your logic that item is obtainable in game, right, so its not p2w. :)

And yes, korean MMOs are usually P2W. That's a fact. You saying that "other korean mmos are the same" doesn't make this particular korean mmo less P2W.

90% (rest from limited time events) of the 2.0 dragons in Tera are from the Tera shop. The ones you buy for 5 mill or whatever in the marketplace are from the tera shop. So the chance is not that bad to make people not buy those dragon boxes. :) Those people are P2W-ers and they get their advantage from buying these dragon boxes, which takes them 10 minute, while takes you literal months my friend, but better believe in whatever delusions that fit into your safe space.

You preatty much proved my point urself.

If the item is ingame and can be farmed its not pay to win.

Pay to win means They can buy things that cannot be gotten ingame that gives unfair advantage.

[Rlm]

Originally posted by Noose McGoose 4FCG:

Originally posted by Moler:

Lol are you even playing on EU? That's literally impossible in 1 month, since even if you spam dungeons 24/7 you won't have enough gold/mats to get the current BiS in 1 month. Don't forget that the dude will start on guardian with an empty bank, not SC+0 and a bank full of gold over the years like you have.

And 'without paying' is kinda delusional. People often pay way more with their time than others pay with actual money.

You only pay in time if you are not enjoying yourself while playing, and when that is the case you should not be playing at all. Because tera's main goal in the late game is getting geared. When you have the best stuff, I find it that there is not much reason to keep playing the dungeon's. You have likely done them a whole bunch to get to that gear in the first place, so apart from pvp (which in my oppinion is not that great) there is nothing left after getting geared really. If it all was a whole bunch easier everyone would just be done with the game rather fast. Thus in my eyes, buying your gear is a stupid choise, as you spend a lot of money on skipping the game (And you will be ♥♥♥♥ at most things regardless of your gear).

So in short: if you don't have fun when gearing, you won't have any fun after it either.

True if you enjoy the process of grinding, then yes, skipping it is an actual disadvantage...

Originally posted by Star:

Originally posted by Moler:

You don't have to, but YOU CAN. And you can get gear way sooner than others. That's an advantage in MMOs.

Would you also say a game is not P2W if that game had an item that needed 10000 hours of grind, but also available in the store for 5€ ? By your logic that item is obtainable in game, right, so its not p2w. :)

And yes, korean MMOs are usually P2W. That's a fact. You saying that "other korean mmos are the same" doesn't make this particular korean mmo less P2W.

90% (rest from limited time events) of the 2.0 dragons in Tera are from the Tera shop. The ones you buy for 5 mill or whatever in the marketplace are from the tera shop. So the chance is not that bad to make people not buy those dragon boxes. :) Those people are P2W-ers and they get their advantage from buying these dragon boxes, which takes them 10 minute, while takes you literal months my friend, but better believe in whatever delusions that fit into your safe space.

You preatty much proved my point urself.

If the item is ingame and can be farmed its not pay to win.

Pay to win means They can buy things that cannot be gotten ingame that gives unfair advantage.

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[Drayuu]

Can't read all of the responses so hopefully I don't repeat something but..
Yes it's worth it.
And I have no idea what people expect from MMOs these days, but I'm sure I don't want to have a maxed out character, full geared after only a month. That would mean I'd stop playing after a month.
It's a MMO, you create your character, you build it, it takes time, and it's great that it does take time. It got a LOT easier over the past years, to make it even faster for casual, yet people still complains it's too grindy. It's an MMO you're supposed to work hard for your gear, run instances, do quests, do dailies, do events, etc.
It's of course more fun with friends, a guild, etc.

The game is beautiful, the combat style is dynamic, and the only down I can think about right now, is that even if you have the most amazing GPU and computer, running at high specs is difficult because the game doesn't want to use more than 3GBish of RAM. Ends up with automatic lower resolution or maybe crashes. Really would love for the devs to allow the gave to actually USE the RAM and resources available on the computer. Other than that, it's fine.

It's not P2W, since you can get everything in game. Shop is mostly for cosmetics or additional dungeon attendance, which you shouldn't really care for if you're a casual tbh.

Even alone, I enjoy the game, the scenery, the combat style of every type of character ( I have 10+), I like doing achievements, quest, earn money for upgrading, buying costumes in the broker, enchanting, etc. There's always something to do, and for a casual like me, I'm totally fine.

Then again, you can't really tell if you don't try, give it a few hours and see. It takes time to get used to a new MMO.

Enjoy!

[KonetoGaming]

i dont understand how canserouse y guys can be

its pay to win get over with
whatever you think yourself ITS STILL PAY TO WIN
been able to use IRL money to speed up your own progress THATS A KOREAN MMO

SURE enjoying a game is the main purpose of a game BUT HEY y can just use irl money
to save decates of actual ILR life time which is wourth it o.o

sure there are ppl which think NO its not a pay to win bec in the end you can get all those
things without spending a single cent into the game SURE thats true
but everyone is talking about time

TIME IS MONEY losing time means losing money havent y parents ever learned you that?

so basicly

1) its pay to win
2) sure fun to play
3) it takes months to get the best items / stuff
4) sure it takes alot hours which you can just buy with money >.>
5) sure buying things gives you alot more advantage against others

but hey thats my opinion and i dont care what y guys think about it bec this is what i see
this is what i think and i dont care about anyone of the community of tera :)

[Ymka]

Obv can't enjoy anymore on a p2w dedgame