Recomendations for Stealth Ship

[Panticapaeum]

I have 120+ hours logged on this game. Can usually win in normal mode (pending no mistakes), however I struggle greatly with the Stealth Ship.

I think the first thing to do with this is to upgrade shields. Thats gets me through alot of jams, however eventually the missles come through and take enough damage to destroy the ship. Ironically if I am able to get Drone Control and then lucky to get a defense drone 1, I usually don't have enough for sheilds? That is if im lucky enough to get a store that carries the modification.

looking for some help with Stealth Ship strategies.

[Lynx]

Don't rush sheilds, upgrade cloak to level2/3 depending on the type. Next, work on engines to make your invasion 100% when cloaked. Then you can start saving up for sheilds :D

[Biohazard063]

Escrito originalmente por Nerd(Vanilla) Shark:

Don't rush sheilds, upgrade cloak to level2/3 depending on the type. Next, work on engines to make your invasion 100% when cloaked. Then you can start saving up for sheilds :D

This, basically. And all depends on how well you can work with your cloak in those early sectors. But seeing that you do pretty well in normal already, that shouldn't be a problem.
But in case you do need help with that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62rfVFlkb5Y&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLhMcy-C4rPtytva1wB0ubWtuKUVbo_NVt
Simply reading the description will help a long way, if that isn't the case watch the vid for a while.

[Corlindale]

My view of this ship really turned around once I learned I needed to time the cloak with enemy attacks - at first I just blindly activated it right away and just clicked it whenever it came off cooldown, but that quickly led to destruction. Proper cloak timing usually lets me get through the difficult start without taking much damage. Beams and drones are major threats until you get shields, though.

[Pave Low]

For the stealth B, upgrade you stealth systems to level 3 as soon as you get 50 scrap. Once that's done, the only ship that can touch you for the first two sectors would be a drone ship.

You need to farm sectors one and two heavily because you're pretty much invincible. You're really going to want shields by the time you hit sector three when two-shield ships start showing up. Unless you can disable their weapons on the first pass of the Glaive Beam, you're going to be in trouble.

[Elldrytch]

To augment what Pave Low said, also upgrading engines is doubly useful. Not only do you increase your Evade%, but you also speed up your FTL recharge time for when you do hit those drone ships.

That said, I think I prefer the Nesario to the DA-SR12. Asteroid fields can get pretty hairy early on, and the sensors help to avoid them. Maybe if you could shoot the Glaive beam forward and speed a path it wouldn't be so bad ;)

[Biohazard063]

Escrito originalmente por Pave Low:

For the stealth B, upgrade you stealth systems to level 3 as soon as you get 50 scrap. Once that's done, the only ship that can touch you for the first two sectors would be a drone ship.

That and zoltan ships with a zoltan super shield.

[DarkTwinge]

The Nesasio is actually a very strong ship, but it does take some getting used to. As with any ship, the 2 most important things to do are to pause often and visit as many beacons in a sector as possible. First thing to do is to swap the weapon order - you want your Dual Lasers in the lefthand slot. Timing is everything with the Stealth ships - use pause to carefully time your shots, time your cloak, etc.

Learning the timings on enemy weapons can be very helfup for timing your cloaks perfectly - for example, you can cloak both a Heavy Laser and Basic Laser shot if you wait 1s after the HL fires and then cloak immediately after the BL fires. When facing early drones, wait until it's just about to fire and then cloak at that point; even with level 1 Cloak, you'll usually get your Mini-Beam off before you're hit more than once.

Don't be afraid to run away - you can't do it often or you'll get too behind in scrap, but your Engines charge fast starting at Level 4, and can help you get out of rough situations. On the other hand, don't be afraid - The Nesasio can actually handle ANY early game threat just fine, including Beam Drones, Asteroids, and Solar Flares. Just don't panic, do things carefully, and your powerful Dual+Mini combo will get you out safely.

For upgrades - nothing is mandatory. Feel free to get Level 2 Cloaking, buy key weapons (Ion Bomb), or save up for Shields. Sell your System Casing as soon as that 50 scrap is needed - usually for buying Shields, but could be sold earlier in some cases.



Now the DA-SR 12 is a bit of a different beast - it's one of the worst ships in the game. On top of that, it's also hard to use, but with careful play one can still be successful with it. Always prioritize Cloaking Level 3 with this ship ASAP - it's essential for surviving early threats, because you're much more fragile than The Nesasio is.

The big issue with the Stealth B is that it needs to buy everything and it needs it quickly - you need Cloaking 3, you need Shields, and you need another weapon. Put a high priority on finding something that can drop at least 1 Shield by the end of Sector 2; Ion Bomb is the best possible option, but most any 1-2 power weapon will do the trick.

When firing at Zoltan Shields, aim your beam so that the end of it is barely just entering a new room - you can get one hit off after taking down the shield.

[Panticapaeum]

Ok, I see in the video, where he mouses over a connection on the map and it shows the exit points from that future point. I can't figure out how to make the waypoint show this? Anyone know?

[Panticapaeum]

Nevermind, just found it pressing the R key and selecting the option. How could this not be by default!!!

[DarkTwinge]

Escrito originalmente por jtflood2010:

Nevermind, just found it pressing the R key and selecting the option. How could this not be by default!!!

The devs prefer it off and only added it due to overwhelming demand - they feel it adds more mistery and uncertainty which they want and thus it's off by default. I feel it adds more tedium and just involves me meticulously measuring between waypoitns (as I did before the option existed) :P I've met exactly 2 players that prefer it off; everyone else strongly prefer it on.

[Lynx]

Escrito originalmente por Twinge:

The devs prefer it off and only added it due to overwhelming demand - they feel it adds more mistery and uncertainty which they want and thus it's off by default. I feel it adds more tedium and just involves me meticulously measuring between waypoitns (as I did before the option existed) :P I've met exactly 2 players that prefer it off; everyone else strongly prefer it on.

Am i the only one who turns it on ONLY if I only have level 2 sensors?

:/

[The Longest Rose]

Escrito originalmente por Twinge:

Escrito originalmente por jtflood2010:

Nevermind, just found it pressing the R key and selecting the option. How could this not be by default!!!

I've met exactly 2 players that prefer it off; everyone else strongly prefer it on.

I like it off. Adds to the experience.

[Panticapaeum]

Thank you for everyones tips! I just finished the game with the Stealth ship AND... I made the best score yet:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=186554105

[hrothgar_kain]

My setup for the Stealth Ship is something like this: cloak lvl 3, engines lvl 4-5, blast doors, lvl 2 sensors. And then shields. Thing is, you can flat out kill everything during a cloak in early sectors without needing a shield. If you run into attack drones, well, tough luck but even then attack the drone controls to power them down and then proceed as planned.

The Stealth B is a monstrosity, Glaive Beam is an absolutely terrifying weapon