Mindcontrol = win

[Puti]

I'm finding mind control is a little OP. So many uses:
- More effective than drones because it can't get shot down or cost a drone
- Instantly effective and short recharge
- Works perfectly on enemy pilot just before weapons are charged; effectively taking out two personnel and allowing for 100% hit
- Perfect to counter boarding parties on your ship

My best run was Mindcontrol + breach teleport bomb combo. Pick a room, breach it, mind control a repairing crew. Total chaos.

[Gekkibi]

Hack = win
Cloaking = win
Cloning bay + teleporter = win
2x Lanius + teleporter = win
Rockmen + firebomb = win

...Every single piece of equipment is win if you use it correctly... Yes, even the new shield drone...

[Puti]

Shield drone?? Defence drone II provides just about the same protection but triggers much much faster.

[hghwolf]

Originally posted by Puti:

Shield drone?? Defence drone II provides just about the same protection but triggers much much faster.

I imagine it might synergize with weapon hacking and cloaking a lot better though.

[Qutsemnie]

It is true that every piece of equipment is strong, but Mind Control is to cheap.

Should require 2/3/4 power to activate and a bit more salvage.

Drone options take more money to get the drone system, and then more money to get the drone, and then use ammo unless you find yet more money for the drone recovery arm.

Hack requires ammo

Stealth requires twice as much money.

[Puti]

Originally posted by hghwolf, killed the bird:

Originally posted by Puti:

Shield drone?? Defence drone II provides just about the same protection but triggers much much faster.

I imagine it might synergize with weapon hacking and cloaking a lot better though.

You may be able to get 2 shield points with cloaking, but that has very little impact overall.

Shield drone might be okay if it cost 1 power/drone slots, but at 3 power/drone slots, it's rubbish.

[hghwolf]

Originally posted by Puti:

You may be able to get 2 shield points with cloaking, but that has very little impact overall.

Shield drone might be okay if it cost 1 power/drone slots, but at 3 power/drone slots, it's rubbish.

I`m not saying it`s GOOD... but it`s not useless. And its not like the game guarantees you a DD2, or even a DD1.

Not that I`m a big fan of drones to begin with. Those things are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ overrated.

[WolfieTR56]

Originally posted by hghwolf, killed the bird:

Originally posted by Puti:

You may be able to get 2 shield points with cloaking, but that has very little impact overall.

Shield drone might be okay if it cost 1 power/drone slots, but at 3 power/drone slots, it's rubbish.

I`m not saying it`s GOOD... but it`s not useless. And its not like the game guarantees you a DD2, or even a DD1.

Not that I`m a big fan of drones to begin with. Those things are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ overrated.

Defense drone I's can be a win condition because they can stop the boss's hacking and boarding drone cold (or at least delay them significantly), along with lessening the need to cripple the boss's missiles (especially if you have two). Defense drone II's got buffed, but they are still mediocre. And the only overshield drone worth using is the shield+ IMO.

[hghwolf]

Originally posted by tallon raider:

Defense drone I's can be a win condition because they can stop the boss's hacking and boarding drone cold (or at least delay them significantly), along with lessening the need to cripple the boss's missiles (especially if you have two). Defense drone II's got buffed, but they are still mediocre. And the only overshield drone worth using is the shield+ IMO.

Not saying drones aren`t usable, useful, whatever. But I`ve won my last 4 games, and none of them even considered a drone control. They aren`t the be all end all of winning at FTL. It`s very winnable without them, especially in AE.

It was Kestrel, Adjudicator, Nessaio, Osprey BTW.

[Psykechan]

I was trying to find a use for the shield drone but it's not happening. I mean it's nice in theory, but it doesn't seem to live up to its sales pitch.

[hghwolf]

Originally posted by Psykechan:

I was trying to find a use for the shield drone but it's not happening. I mean it's nice in theory, but it doesn't seem to live up to its sales pitch.

Eh, I can think of one; selective missile shielding. Requires either tons of experience or Sensors 3/2manned though.

Three power for a few seconds can probably be drawn from the engines.

[Swordmouse]

*shrug* Mind Control can be fun and it can be useful, but I'd still take any of the other systems (teleporter, cloaking, hacking, drones) over it if I had a choice.

[Kuro]

Mind Control is extremely useful together with a fire bomb. If you put a fire bomb into the flag ship's shield room, wait for 2 - 3 crew to extinguish and then mind control one of them. They will start fighting in the room as the flames grow instead of trying to extinguish it. I beat the flag ship doing this with only a fire bomb and a burst laser mk1.

[-=Maure=-]

Originally posted by Chameilio Estevez:

*shrug* Mind Control can be fun and it can be useful, but I'd still take any of the other systems (teleporter, cloaking, hacking, drones) over it if I had a choice.

It really depends, it's really useful if you have a squishy crew as it makes you virtually immune to teleporting, just control one of the boarders and let them fight it out. If you use teleporter yourself it becomes very useful, teleport to a 4 tile room, control one, 3v3 fight, if you're lanius or mantis it's a sure win.

Not to mention it lets you re-control your guys if they get MC'd.

[-=Maure=-]

Originally posted by Fox:

Mind Control is extremely useful together with a fire bomb. If you put a fire bomb into the flag ship's shield room, wait for 2 - 3 crew to extinguish and then mind control one of them. They will start fighting in the room as the flames grow instead of trying to extinguish it. I beat the flag ship doing this with only a fire bomb and a burst laser mk1.

Nice. I imagine that works even in medbay rooms.

[Kaigen]

I need to mess around with Mind Control more, I've been just been so enamored with Hacking + Transporters. Not only does Hacking give you a devastating counter to medbays, you can use it to lockdown rooms so your boarders have time to do some damage before the enemy defenders reach them.