Dual Halberd Beams?

[dvm.GLENNWORLD]

Started my first game as Zoltan cruiser... just got a second Halberd beam first move in sector 2.

Can I use this beat the final boss? Or does it requirement of 6 power make them useless?

[Mr. Broccoli]

Originally posted by Stormmaster:

Flak I fires 7 projectiles, of which 3 are "real" and may hit enemy ship and the rest 4 are dummies that distract defence drones. Maybe dummy projectiles can hit a drone as they fly, I am not sure. But I am pretty sure they can't hit shield. Flak II fires 7 projectiles, all of which may hit.

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This. I've never seen it take out 4 bubbles before, but I have noticed some oddities with the flak 1. Namely having some of the 3 main "red-dot" shots miss small rooms and fly past a ship only to have the shields still drop 3 points, as well as seeing the baby projectiles register as hits on rooms but do no damage. So it may not be IMPOSSIBLE for the mini projectiles to MAYBE take out a 4th bubble, maybe against 0 evasion where everything hits, but I haven't seen it myself. What I have seen is flak 1 only take out 2 bubbles, so rarely possible or not, I wouldn't count on it taking 4.

[shareofhonor]

Occasionally the flak 1 will fail to take down all 4 shields.. A second shot ALWAYS does.. This not hard to replicate..

[shareofhonor]

I've got 250 hours in this game and have seen it only take down 3 shield bubbles every single time I've used it.

If you can show me video proof of a flak 1 taking down 4 shields I will regard you as God and listen to everything you say for the rest of my life.<<<

I have at least 100 wins where I flak 1 downed the bosses shield and then glaived or halberd beamed them to death. 100's more battles won against ships with 4 shields not the boss. I am not holding your hand. Why should I??

Lanius B is my favorite ship because it starts with a flak 1 all I need is a glaive or halberd and I got a win...

[Chibi Life]

Originally posted by shareofhonor:

I have at least 100 wins where I flak 1 downed the bosses shield and then glaived or halberd beamed them to death. 100's more battles won against ships with 4 shields not the boss. I am not holding your hand. Why should I??

Friend, you know that if you take down 3 shield bubbles and the enemy has only 1 bubble left, the glaive beam will still do 2 damage and the halberd beam will still do 1 damage?

Every shield bubble reduces beam damage by 1 point.

Halberd beam does 2 damage, so you would need a minimum of 2 shields to avoid taking damage from it.
Glaive Beam does 3 damage, so you would need a minimum of 3 shields to avoid taking damage from it.

If the boss has 4 shields and you flak down 3 bubbles, glaive still does 2 and halberd still does 1.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Mistress of Boredom:

Originally posted by shareofhonor:

I have at least 100 wins where I flak 1 downed the bosses shield and then glaived or halberd beamed them to death. 100's more battles won against ships with 4 shields not the boss. I am not holding your hand. Why should I??

Friend, you know that if you take down 3 shield bubbles and the enemy has only 1 bubble left, the glaive beam will still do 2 damage and the halberd beam will still do 1 damage?

Every shield bubble reduces beam damage by 1 point.

Halberd beam does 2 damage, so you would need a minimum of 2 shields to avoid taking damage from it.
Glaive Beam does 3 damage, so you would need a minimum of 3 shields to avoid taking damage from it.

If the boss has 4 shields and you flak down 3 bubbles, glaive still does 2 and halberd still does 1.

But if you only use a single flak 1 to take down the shield alot of the time the flak just misses entirely, which will make you do no damage at all.
All the while the flagship keeps shooting it's missile launcher XD

[Mr. Broccoli]

Yeaaah, taking down enough for anaother weapon to do damage and taking down all 4 bubbles in 1 shot arent the same thing. I'm not ruling it out, as I've never pursued it under careful, controlled observation, but it certainly isn't a common thing, and given the number of veterans who say otherwise, I certainly have my doubts.

[shareofhonor]

Originally posted by Mr. Broccoli:

Yeaaah, taking down enough for anaother weapon to do damage and taking down all 4 bubbles in 1 shot arent the same thing. I'm not ruling it out, as I've never pursued it under careful, controlled observation, but it certainly isn't a common thing, and given the number of veterans who say otherwise, I certainly have my doubts.

All you have to do is try...

[shareofhonor]

Friend, you know that if you take down 3 shield bubbles and the enemy has only 1 bubble left, the glaive beam will still do 2 damage and the halberd beam will still do 1 damage?

Every shield bubble reduces beam damage by 1 point.<<<

Not me that needs to be informed aboutt the most basic aspects of this game. You could also use some help with logic and how to discuss properly..

[Chibi Life]

Originally posted by shareofhonor:

Friend, you know that if you take down 3 shield bubbles and the enemy has only 1 bubble left, the glaive beam will still do 2 damage and the halberd beam will still do 1 damage?

Every shield bubble reduces beam damage by 1 point.<<<

Not me that needs to be informed aboutt the most basic aspects of this game. You could also use some help with logic and how to discuss properly..

So you resort to insulting people when you have no argument to prove otherwise? You seem to only exist in a reality that is your own creation, oblivious to anything around you other than your own thought process.

I advise you to take a look at this URL and try to find some help. It will be much healthier for you to do this sooner rather than later.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

I wish you the best of luck :)

[shareofhonor]

So you resort to insulting people when you have no argument to prove otherwise? You seem to only exist in a reality that is your own creation, oblivious to anything around you other than your own thought process.

I advise you to take a look at this URL and try to find some help. It will be much healthier for you to do this sooner rather than later.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists<<<<


Yeah apparently you are nuts enough to think questioning my mental condition does NOT qualify as an "INSULT" Especially when you do not know any more about that topic than you do the game...

[Chibi Life]

Originally posted by shareofhonor:

So you resort to insulting people when you have no argument to prove otherwise? You seem to only exist in a reality that is your own creation, oblivious to anything around you other than your own thought process.

I advise you to take a look at this URL and try to find some help. It will be much healthier for you to do this sooner rather than later.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists<<<<


Yeah apparently you are nuts enough to think questioning my mental condition does NOT qualify as an "INSULT" Especially when you do not know any more about that topic than you do the game...

I wasn't insulting you though. I am legitimately concerned about your mental state and I really, seriously insist that you seek help. With all the lunatics out there committing violence and how mentally insecure and unstable you seem to be I am concerned for the safety of yourself and those around you.

So please, do the right thing and seek help.

[Mr. Broccoli]

Originally posted by shareofhonor:

Originally posted by Mr. Broccoli:

Yeaaah, taking down enough for anaother weapon to do damage and taking down all 4 bubbles in 1 shot arent the same thing. I'm not ruling it out, as I've never pursued it under careful, controlled observation, but it certainly isn't a common thing, and given the number of veterans who say otherwise, I certainly have my doubts.

All you have to do is try...

Oh, I have. I had a ship once with flak 1 and a pike beam and had a beastly time getting 3 shield bubbles down so I could beam the infernal thing, it took forever. So no, it isn't easy or common. I briefly entertained to notion that it might be POSSIBLE to hit 4 shields with flak 1, but the longer the thread lasts, the more I suspect this is indeed some tall tale.

But hey, my current ship actually has 2 flak 1s. When I get hacking and find a good test subject, I'll immobilize them, target a big room with no chance to miss, and put this thing to bed once and for all.

[shareofhonor]

I wasn't insulting you though. I am legitimately concerned about your mental state and I really, seriously insist that you seek help. With all the lunatics out there committing violence and how mentally insecure and unstable you seem to be I am concerned for the safety of yourself and those around you<<<

Liar liar... You are crazy enough to think I might actually take ANYTHING you say seriously.. You need help far more than I do..

[Mr. Broccoli]

Originally posted by Mr. Broccoli:

When I get hacking and find a good test subject, I'll immobilize them, target a big room with no chance to miss, and put this thing to bed once and for all.

Done.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1369009278

A single flak 1 absolutely will not bring down 4 shield buubles. I doubt many people are suprised, but there we go. Absolutely everything that came out of the gun hit against the shield of the immobilised target and only 3 bubble went down. Game over. Good bye.