Dual shot laser is the best gun?

[Frostbite]

Is it not?

[red255]

I feel the Flak 1 has the same amount of shots as the burst laser, losing accuracy but gaining firing speed.

Chain shots with weapon Preigniters are brutal though. main thing wrong with the gun is it taks 21 seconds to get the first volley off, but if they come pre-ignitited that shaves 21 seconds off your killing spree rate of fire.

checks. the game has a 4 power vulcan gun, which takes 11 seconds to fire, and then gets faster until it takes 1 second to fire. if you have limited weapon slots two of these can burn thru an enemy vessel. for 8 power. Would recommend pre-igniting and faster fire rate improvement pieces.

if you don't have limited weapon slots, 4 Flak I guns fire reasonably rapidly and do enough damage to burn thru shields.

an ideal loadout of the initial ship. gonna say 4 flak 1's. 2 drones, one on offense one on defense, and one in storage for hull repair.

a drone recovery arm and you should be golden.

[Frostbite]

Meh, from my experience, drones too much trouble. I only use them for boarding reasons, both offense and defense. And of course, for hacking.

[Empiro]

Dual Lasers are really good, and you'll usually keep them on ships that start with them. Burst 2s are probably the best weapon you can buy though.

However, winning FTL is about being flexible and making do with what you have, so there are definitely situations where you'd pass up a Burst 2 even if you can afford it.

[zaku_zelo]

Originally posted by crazymaton:

Originally posted by RogueMasta:

*Laughs in weapon pre-igniter*

weapon preigniter makes almost any weapon combination by endgame strong enough to win with. I won with flak 1 burst laser 2 and halberd beam.

I should hope. Flak I, Burst Laser II, and Halberd Beam are the three best buyable/findable weapons in the game.

[BoiledInPilk]

Flak two, vulcan, and glaive beam are the most powerful weapons in the game (in terms of raw power, they have a lot of energy consumption though.)

[Terratrox]

Originally posted by zaku_zelo:

Originally posted by crazymaton:

weapon preigniter makes almost any weapon combination by endgame strong enough to win with. I won with flak 1 burst laser 2 and halberd beam.

I should hope. Flak I, Burst Laser II, and Halberd Beam are the three best buyable/findable weapons in the game.

Yes. Flak 1 and Burst 2 are tied for the strongest because their power efficiency is good, their speed is good, and their individual damage is high. Dual Lasers IS strong, but it doesn't do enough on its own to consider it the best weapon. It's certainly the most efficient, and really really good. But it can't get through 2 shields alone and can't support other guns as well as the Flak 1 and Burst 2 can.

Originally posted by Communism.uk.org:

Flak two, vulcan, and glaive beam are the most powerful weapons in the game (in terms of raw power, they have a lot of energy consumption though.)

Also correct. But that energy consumption really brings down the Vulcan and Glaive Beam. In fact, I'd actually consider the Vulcan to be below average because it takes some 39 seconds to spin up and start chewing through enemy ships. The Glaive Beam is certainly above average, but it requires extensive support to make it work in a run. Hacking 3 on shields, ions, something. And the ability to stay more or less unharmed for 24 seconds or so.

[Wasted]

i'd say mini beam is better than dual laser or as good

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by Wasted:

i'd say mini beam is better than dual laser or as good

Starting with both, as Stealth A does, is one of the best set of starting weapons in the game.

[Terratrox]

Originally posted by Wasted:

i'd say mini beam is better than dual laser or as good

Dual Laser is better because it can do things by itself, while the minibeam requires the support of something else to do anything. But yeah the Stealth A has one of the strongest starting weapon setups. I'd say it's still behind the Kestrel though because the Kestrel's will scale into lategame.

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by Terratrox:

Originally posted by Wasted:

i'd say mini beam is better than dual laser or as good

Dual Laser is better because it can do things by itself, while the minibeam requires the support of something else to do anything. But yeah the Stealth A has one of the strongest starting weapon setups. I'd say it's still behind the Kestrel though because the Kestrel's will scale into lategame.

For scalability, the Red-Tail is probably the best. And you can actually win with the Red-Tail's opening set of 4 Basic Lasers fairly easily if you combine strong defense with L3 hacking.

[Empiro]

Originally posted by Terratrox:

Originally posted by Wasted:

i'd say mini beam is better than dual laser or as good

Dual Laser is better because it can do things by itself, while the minibeam requires the support of something else to do anything. But yeah the Stealth A has one of the strongest starting weapon setups. I'd say it's still behind the Kestrel though because the Kestrel's will scale into lategame.

I think the biggest weakness of the Stealth A set up is that it has only 3 weapon slots. Both the Mini-Beam and Dual Laser are good, but there's no really good 3rd weapon that will carry you for the rest of the game. The Burst 3 or Flak 2 will work, but both have such long coolsdowns that it effectively limits your starting weapons to that speed for most of the fight.

If we're talking about weapons you can't buy though, the Lanius B's Adv Flak is probably the best, bar none. 1 energy, super fast cool down, 3 projectiles.

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by Empiro:

I think the biggest weakness of the Stealth A set up is that it has only 3 weapon slots. Both the Mini-Beam and Dual Laser are good, but there's no really good 3rd weapon that will carry you for the rest of the game.

Stealth C has more or less exactly this issue. Those 1 power weapons are great for starters but you aren't usually going to be able to keep them until the end. Stealth C has nearly exactly the same weapons except a Charge I (that only costs 1 power) instead of Dual Lasers, which is just a hair better because it's more flexible.