Misprint

[ethanalex11]

I know there are die hard gamer's who appreciate it, but i think the average consumer knows this is not Pokemon and thus the value of the misprint/shiny should be vastly reduces. especially when finding one does not guarantee being able to keep it. maybe 1/100 and 1/200.

[Stenrenzo]

i agree with lowering the odds. but 1/100 and 1/200 seem a bit to common in my opinion.

[ThatGuyKhi]

Maybe something like 1/700 & 1/1400 or 1/600 & 1/1200.

[ethanalex11]

i can agree with that. on the condition if you cannot encounter the same misprint or not. if once its unlocked it wont show up again i get increasing it. but if i need 1 left in my dex and have to find ones i already had over and over again i would like the odds to be quite low

[Stenrenzo]

Maybe there could be field effects (or items)
That boost the misprint odds

[RoeLove]

I think what you are all forgetting is that the seeds for the runs are shareable. So anyone running into a misprint is able to share that misprint with anyone. Now of course not everyone will be doing so, but enough people will that lowering the odds will make it far too easy for people to game the system and get a ton of misprints in a (relatively) short amount of time.

[KingTaltia]

Counterpoint; do you have ANY idea how many Kadomon you see in a run? Four per node, an average of ten nodes per act in all three acts?
120 per run in a rougelike where you're expected to go through dozens of runs in a sitting if you're enjoying yourself (I have been).
So at that rate you'ld see a rare misprint every other day (on average) assuming you even play four runs a day.
I've already found... let's see; Cactus, Cloud, and Lightning bug. in two days.

[ethanalex11]

Originally posted by RoeLove:

I think what you are all forgetting is that the seeds for the runs are shareable. So anyone running into a misprint is able to share that misprint with anyone. Now of course not everyone will be doing so, but enough people will that lowering the odds will make it far too easy for people to game the system and get a ton of misprints in a (relatively) short amount of time.

have you tested this? all ive discussed with the discord for the says the seeds do not determine the encounters of a node, just the map.

[ethanalex11]

Originally posted by KingTaltia:

Counterpoint; do you have ANY idea how many Kadomon you see in a run? Four per node, an average of ten nodes per act in all three acts?
120 per run in a rougelike where you're expected to go through dozens of runs in a sitting if you're enjoying yourself (I have been).
So at that rate you'ld see a rare misprint every other day (on average) assuming you even play four runs a day.
I've already found... let's see; Cactus, Cloud, and Lightning bug. in two days.

i see your point, but with the amount of mons and each having two misprints (and my still unconfirmed theory on if you can find the same misprint or not) is still way too long to get ones that you want. especially in a game that does not matter in a way a shiny in Pokemon does or a rare drop in an MMO.

[RoeLove]

Originally posted by ethanalex11:

Originally posted by RoeLove:

I think what you are all forgetting is that the seeds for the runs are shareable. So anyone running into a misprint is able to share that misprint with anyone. Now of course not everyone will be doing so, but enough people will that lowering the odds will make it far too easy for people to game the system and get a ton of misprints in a (relatively) short amount of time.

have you tested this? all ive discussed with the discord for the says the seeds do not determine the encounters of a node, just the map.

Ah if this is the case than I fundamentally misunderstood the seeding system. In that case a raising of the odds might very well be in order.