SILENT HILL 2

SILENT HILL 2

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GenSec39 Mar 18, 2024 @ 7:12pm
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Why do you people even want a remake?
This is something that really bothers me. I mean, I can understand if original game is bad, so remaking it sounds like a reasonable idea. Or, if you've never played it before so you just do not care - I can understand this as well. But if you really love this game and even think that it is the best SH game... why YOU ask for a remake?

If you still think that SH2 is great, why not just re-release of original game but for newer systems? Or, as a last resort, a remaster? With some patches, minor improvements and upscaled textures? Why you want everything to be redone from scratch?

You may say that you really love the game, but just want it to have modern graphics. Ok, so that's just it? The graphics are the most important here? You can sacrifice other aspects for the better graphics? It will inevitably happen. Remakes very often spawn controversies.

Characters will be somehow different, voiceacting, music, level design, shadows, camera angles, etc, etc... Not to mention that this game will be done by different people. You will blindly accept these changes just for better graphics? If that is so... maybe you didn't really like it as you claim?

You may also mention that you'd just like to get better controls, but my postition will remain the same in this case - is this aspect really so important that outweights everything else?

So this is my question - if you like the game, why you want a remake?
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Castyles Mar 19, 2024 @ 2:38am 
I don't want it and I'm pretty damn sure more than 90% of those who also played the originals don't want one, either.
LexAnimex Mar 19, 2024 @ 3:12am 
I'm pretty sure most people would prefer the original games on steam
mdesaleah Mar 19, 2024 @ 6:41am 
New graphics = good.

Old graphics = bad.

Not that I even agree with this, but you'd be surprised how much "new = better" is automatically taken even though all signs point towards the Original 2 remaining leagues ahead.

Even in terms of "graphics", the Original is much more consistent. Especially looking at the characters and how exaggerated James's expressions are now.
Last edited by mdesaleah; Mar 19, 2024 @ 6:46am
Black Hole Mar 19, 2024 @ 8:35am 
I never asked for one, not against it if done top notch but so far this aint amigos.
Maximizer Mar 20, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
We don't. That's the point. No remakes for the originals, they worked the way they worked because they were release in a specific time period, made by people with specific values and worldviews. Everyhting changes so do we. Remakes OBJECTIVELY cannot work - they will never be able to recapture those emotions and experiences original gave back then. I know many people don't like UnderTheMayo, I'm no his particulal fan either but his videos on Silent Hill series explain this all so much better than I do. Watch them, you'll understand what I mean.
Maximizer Mar 20, 2024 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by LexAnimex:
I'm pretty sure most people would prefer the original games on steam

Funny thing is that Konami lost original codes of the finished games, only pathetic betas they released in 2012 as "HD collection". And they revoiced characters, which is in itself an insane kind of insult. That's beyond fked up. Find original game on the internet and then apply Enhanced Edition.
Formidophobia Mar 20, 2024 @ 5:27pm 
I'm fine with changes as long as they work within the environment of this new game, so I'm approaching this as more a reboot than a remake. It will never diminish the original's place in my heart in any way. I didn't "ask" for it per say but I'm interested in seeing what a modern take on this story looks like.

Honestly you can very well ask the same thing for movies - why do we remake old good movies instead of old bad ones? Even though I agree it this would potentially be more interesting (and be less likely to be disappointing), the main thing the people who put money into making it are most likely worried about is, who would watch it? Would it not be far more likely that someone would skip a theatre ticket price for a remake of a movie where the original wasn't even that good to begin with, versus something they cared about?
ScreenSinger Mar 20, 2024 @ 10:21pm 
I mean, it's pointless to assume it'll be bad just because it's different. Resident Evil's remakes are highly praised despite remaking games that were already hits when they first came out. Silent Hill is doing the same thing. Their story is that Christophe Gans, who's adapting Silent Hill 2 and PT for this year's movie sequel, told them some things about how he'd approach a remake that made them interested in doing one. But it really feels like they're just chasing that Resident Evil money.
GenSec39 Mar 21, 2024 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by Maximizer:
Funny thing is that Konami lost original codes of the finished games, only pathetic betas they released in 2012 as "HD collection". And they revoiced characters, which is in itself an insane kind of insult. That's beyond fked up. Find original game on the internet and then apply Enhanced Edition.

True it was such a garbage. This dude nailed it back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58n-Gg1GrE4

I mean, I can't be optimistic about remake if they failed even with filthy HD. Just check all those details he mentiones. Silent Hill is all about small details. They screwed them in HD, don't think that current team will even care about them.

Originally posted by Formidophobia:

Honestly you can very well ask the same thing for movies - why do we remake old good movies instead of old bad ones?

'We' - who? Film makers? - That's easy. Because they want to milk good francise and save on marketing. That's why they remake good movies. They do not care about bad ones.

Or 'we' - customers? I personally do not need remakes of my favourite movies. For what? I either like them or not. Do you need a remake of, let's say 'Godfather' or 'La Piovra'?

Originally posted by ScreenSinger:
I mean, it's pointless to assume it'll be bad just because it's different.

It will be different - that's the main point.

Originally posted by ScreenSinger:
But it really feels like they're just chasing that Resident Evil money.

Very likely. They already ruined SH serie years ago, when they tried to turn it into RE. Maybe they hope that their 2nd attempt at copying RE will be more successful. I mean, modern RE audience is not very choosy, since CAPCOM is feeding them one remake after another by simply reselling reskin of the same game (RE2), so who knows.

If KONAMI will turn SH2 remake into another clone of RE2 remake (even good one) - is it what SH fanbase really wanted? - that's the question. I personally do not need another RE game.
Mac Mar 21, 2024 @ 7:01am 
You must have it really easy in life if this is something that really bothers you. Nonetheless, people may want a remake because they want to experience it in a modern view or hope they can strike magic again. Will they? Who knows. Some remakes have done a marvelous job in doing so. This game will probably flop though from the looks of it. No offense dude, but reading all that vacuous straw-hatting gave me a headache. Should work on that.
turn heel Mar 21, 2024 @ 8:39am 
I'm fairly certain this is just a manifestation of our collective fears, so in a sense what could be more Silent Hill.
Maximizer Mar 21, 2024 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by turn heel:
I'm fairly certain this is just a manifestation of our collective fears, so in a sense what could be more Silent Hill.

That's great one, man.
GenSec39 Mar 21, 2024 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Mac:
You must have it really easy in life if this is something that really bothers you.
No offense dude, but reading all that vacuous straw-hatting gave me a headache. Should work on that.

We are on gaming forum, not on crisis hotline. We discuss games, not real life issues. So there is no need for these acid remarks. Same about my wording - we are not on philological faculty either.
ChrisE Mar 22, 2024 @ 4:51am 
'Characters will be somehow different, voiceacting, music, level design, shadows, camera angles, etc, etc... '

Yes, that is the purpose of a ... wait for it.... REMAKE!

Also you all need to understand that companies don't make remakes for you; the fans of the original games. They create them for the new, modern audiences. This is the only way to sell these games to the new generations, and potentially keep the franchise alive for the upcoming decades.
turn heel Mar 22, 2024 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by ChrisE:
'Characters will be somehow different, voiceacting, music, level design, shadows, camera angles, etc, etc... '

Yes, that is the purpose of a ... wait for it.... REMAKE!

Also you all need to understand that companies don't make remakes for you; the fans of the original games. They create them for the new, modern audiences. This is the only way to sell these games to the new generations, and potentially keep the franchise alive for the upcoming decades.
"This is the only way"
Hello bloober team
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