Boss Fight Design: Abstract Daddy (Spoilers)

[FlangEG]

after finishing the game, understanding Angela and Eddie's storylines, and their Otherworlds, the arena of Abstract Daddy seems a bit out of place.

The boss fight of Eddie takes place in a freezer locker. At the last encounter of Angela, James sees the fires. For me, it implies that that fighting area for Abstract Daddy should be on fire or at least covered with scorch marks. James crosses over to eddies Otherworld before the truth is revealed, so trapped in his delusions doesn't provide a valid explanation.

I say that the parts of the hallways of of the Abstract Daddy boss fight should have been scorched in stage one, and parts of it on fire in stage two.

[Kobeth]

I think it's entirely possible that Angela set fire to her house AFTER killing her father and brother so it would make sense to see fire after the fight and not before or during the fight. The fire might also not be literal, but metaphorical, symbolizing Angela's self destructing path that she intends to follow, most likely leading to her death by her own hands. It kinda mimics and mirrors James's own demise as the last we see Angela she is climbing upwards towards the fire that ends up engulfing her whereas James ends up crashing downwards with his car into the lake's waters.

[FlangEG]

I did interpret the fire as a metaphor. The dialog at Angela's final scene implies her Otherworld was always on fire.

James: It's hot as hell in here.
Angela: You see it, too? For me, it's always been like this.

Almost all cut scenes with Eddie show signs that his experience is in a frozen SH. There is lack of these kind of signs for Angela's cutscenes except for the last. Other games in the franchise does show that the lines between multiple Otherworlds can be blurred, even if you can't/don't travel between them willingly.

[Kobeth]

I don't know about Eddie, appart from the final fight with him in the freezing room I don't see much of an indication that Eddie is experiencing a frozen Silent Hill, all of our encounters with him has to do with food though. Also it's possible that even though the world has always looked on fire to Angela, James was only able to see it once he accepted the truth about what he's done and considered following the same self destructing path as her, as he is unable to live with himself anymore.

[Black Hole]

Originally posted by Kobeth:

I don't know about Eddie, appart from the final fight with him in the freezing room I don't see much of an indication that Eddie is experiencing a frozen Silent Hill, all of our encounters with him has to do with food though. Also it's possible that even though the world has always looked on fire to Angela, James was only able to see it once he accepted the truth about what he's done and considered following the same self destructing path as her, as he is unable to live with himself anymore.

This has been explained if you watch the bowling scene you see visible air coming out of Eddies mouth as though in a freezing temp, you dont see any come out of James.

It's fascinating how different realities can over lap while being different for each other but still communicating with each other.

[FlangEG]

Originally posted by Black Hole:

Originally posted by Kobeth:

I don't know about Eddie, appart from the final fight with him in the freezing room I don't see much of an indication that Eddie is experiencing a frozen Silent Hill, all of our encounters with him has to do with food though. Also it's possible that even though the world has always looked on fire to Angela, James was only able to see it once he accepted the truth about what he's done and considered following the same self destructing path as her, as he is unable to live with himself anymore.

This has been explained if you watch the bowling scene you see visible air coming out of Eddies mouth as though in a freezing temp, you dont see any come out of James.

It's fascinating how different realities can over lap while being different for each other but still communicating with each other.

I did mention Eddie and his locations. Each Time you encounter him, it bleeds further into his Otherworld. Penultimate to final confrontation is in his Otherworld completely. Thi8s does not seem to apply to the cutscenes/crossover to Angela's Otherworld. Suddenly when you encounter Abstract Daddy, you are nearly completely in in Angela's otherworld, you may not see her version of Abstract Daddy just like you don't see Eddie's version of his bully, but you should see, in my opinion, both of their versions of the Otherworld or neither.