I really disliked the new James Sunderland

[H.E.C.U soldier]

It's true that the graphics and atmosphere are superior. I really like this remake. However, there is one compartment that the game suffers in. Character development. And it has to do with voice acting direction as well. While I admired the performance of the characters like Maria, Mary and Laura, I think the rest of the characters are bad. Mainly male ones this time. Why? They lack emotions. They are very depressed and lifeless. Not to mention my favourite dialogues from the original game were all cut, which is sad because most of them are the same, but the vital ones which question James's actions are completely cut, like his speech after confrontation with Eddie in refrigerator room and Angela in fire room or his argument with Mary's doctor, all cut!

Original voice actors showed a lot of emotions. James Sunderland, the main character suffers most from it, the way he is written in this game is very odd. Examples, he punches Eddie in the face, he is calm all the time, and when Angela asks if he's keeping knife for himself he says nothing at all, whereas in original he said "me? No, I..... I would never kill myself." I liked that a lot, because original James was that confused and lost guy, but still human. His deeds justified his behaviour in the original completely. That James' Magic was lost completely in the remake, which is very unfortunate. The actor is so boring, and he makes the character extremely boring too. This is suprising, that the main character is the most boring and poorly written one. But other that that it's a very good remake. It's just that the protagonist is completely different.


I suppose it's a matter of seeing difference of characters through the tone of voice and emotion put into it which I didn't see in the remake, I saw and heard a noticable difference and obviously I can't demonstrate it with lines of text but I can make a comparison to better picture it for your imagination, what I mean:

Original James character: "I am really motivated to see Mary again, it's very important to me. I would do anything to be with her again, I'm confused though, and shocked because of what happened to me, I have to make it right"
Which he even says in the story. And he has enough charisma to prove that he does actually care.

Remake James character: "I am a very depressed, lazy, boring guy, who is on anti-depressants and has dulled emotions because of it and me being a sad, pathetic person. I will talk very quiet and in the same tone all the time. Truth be told I just don't care, I will go through the story because I have to."
I could not share the story with this James because of it. He was sapped of all energy, spirit and emotions, tired all the time. I'm not blaming the actor himself, it may seem like I'm blaming his work, no, I meant the narrative direction of this character.

[@R+5]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

You don't like the new VA so what fair argument are you expecting? Nothing we say will change your mind. Again the thread is pointless moving on now.

you have been supporting this games in multiple threads. i also doubt any of the multiple solid arguments, and more objective opinions against it, will change your position.

is obvious you dont actually care about the original game, or the franchise, but what this version represents to you relative to politics, rather than the actual content of the game.

at least thats what it perceive. or can you understand and mention examples of why actual followers of the franchise are disappointed?

[Bankai9212]

Supporting? If I had to pick between the OG and the remake I'd stick with the OG. Unlike you the changes they made don't effect me that much. But at the end of the day its preference.

What arguments? Both versions have strengths and weaknesses remakes sticks out more for me anyway.

Listen if you keep trying to project words onto me I'll report you simple as that.

[God Module]

The remake was never going to be able to recapture the original games performances, but I really liked James by the end of the game. The actor nailed the last 3rd of the game

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

You don't like the new VA so what fair argument are you expecting? Nothing we say will change your mind. Again the thread is pointless moving on now.

It's not about the voice actor himself, did you even read the whole post? I explained that at the very last paragraph. Read the whole thing again if you have problem a with understanding. It's about the character as a whole. Not only his voice but his actions as well, and his character overall.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Supporting? If I had to pick between the OG and the remake I'd stick with the OG. Unlike you the changes they made don't effect me that much. But at the end of the day its preference.

What arguments? Both versions have strengths and weaknesses remakes sticks out more for me anyway.

Listen if you keep trying to project words onto me I'll report you simple as that.

When you start threatening other people with canceling them, then you have lost all the credibility, also you prove that guy was right.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Layer XIII Ego:

The remake was never going to be able to recapture the original games performances, but I really liked James by the end of the game. The actor nailed the last 3rd of the game

I think quite the contrary. He remained that boring, lazy guy to the end. The only emotional scene with him was during the two piramid bosses scene. That's the only time I actually remember, where he showed emotions.

[Shaelent]

I mean, is James meant to be happy, joyous and full of unicorns after being tormented by his hallucinations after killing his wife?

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Shaelent:

I mean, is James meant to be happy, joyous and full of unicorns after being tormented by his hallucinations after killing his wife?

You did not understand the thread then. I compared the original game's James with the one from the Remake in the main post. The already estabilished character in the original vision was different than the one presented in the remake and I explained that. What's wrong with you people not being able to read with understanding?

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by Shaelent:

I mean, is James meant to be happy, joyous and full of unicorns after being tormented by his hallucinations after killing his wife?

You did not understand the thread then. I compared the original game's James with the one from the Remake in the main post. The already estabilished character in the original vision was different then the one presented in the remake and I explained that. What's wrong with you people not being able to read with understanding?

I do not really care to read paragraphs of what is essentially a personal opinion, I was merely responding to the part you referred to them as depressed and lifeless.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Shaelent:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

You did not understand the thread then. I compared the original game's James with the one from the Remake in the main post. The already estabilished character in the original vision was different then the one presented in the remake and I explained that. What's wrong with you people not being able to read with understanding?

I do not really care to read paragraphs of what is essentially a personal opinion, I was merely responding to the part you referred to them as depressed and lifeless.

If you are too lazy to read the topic then I see no reason for you taking a part in the discussion, if you are not informed well enough about the topic.

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by Shaelent:

I do not really care to read paragraphs of what is essentially a personal opinion, I was merely responding to the part you referred to them as depressed and lifeless.

If you are too lazy to read the topic then I see no reason for you taking a part in the discussion, if you are not informed well enough about the topic.

I am informed enough about the game and voice acting but I just disagree and find it silly that you're complaining about a husband who is depressed and lifeless after killing his wife, that is all.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Shaelent:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

If you are too lazy to read the topic then I see no reason for you taking a part in the discussion, if you are not informed well enough about the topic.

I am informed enough about the game and voice acting but I just disagree and find it silly that you're complaining about a husband who is depressed and lifeless after killing his wife, that is all.

It's called character development and any type of character can be written in a unique way. Besides, how can you disagree about anything, if you do not know what I wrote about, what's the point of making your opinion if you're unfamiliar with the topic? THAT is silly. Also original James Sunderland wasn't lifeless, you have just proved my point.

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by Shaelent:

I am informed enough about the game and voice acting but I just disagree and find it silly that you're complaining about a husband who is depressed and lifeless after killing his wife, that is all.

It's called character development and any type of character can be written in a unique way. Besides, how can you disagree about anything, if you do not know what I wrote about, what's the point of making your opinion if you're unfamiliar with the topic? THAT is silly.

Assuming I am unfamiliar with the topic because I disagree with what you wrote is silly, I've seen the way you engaged with others also expressing their opinion. All I can say is, if you're writing all of this and expecting people to agree with you then this entire thread is pointless.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Shaelent:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

It's called character development and any type of character can be written in a unique way. Besides, how can you disagree about anything, if you do not know what I wrote about, what's the point of making your opinion if you're unfamiliar with the topic? THAT is silly.

Assuming I am unfamiliar with the topic because I disagree with what you wrote is silly, I've seen the way you engaged with others also expressing their opinion. All I can say is, if you're writing all of this and expecting people to agree with you then this entire thread is pointless.

You said you were too lazy to read the original post which is the main point for the discussion. Which makes you uninformed, yet you are still making an opinion, besides am I meant to agree with others different opinions? I can but I don't have to, that's the point of a discussion. I would not bother making this topic if I expected everyone to agree with me. But it's hard to treat someone seriously if one's making an opinion without familiarizing oneself with the subject, that is very silly.

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by Shaelent:

Assuming I am unfamiliar with the topic because I disagree with what you wrote is silly, I've seen the way you engaged with others also expressing their opinion. All I can say is, if you're writing all of this and expecting people to agree with you then this entire thread is pointless.

You said you were too lazy to read the original post which is the main point for the discussion. Which makes you uninformed, yet you are still making an opinion, besides am I meant to agree with others different opinions? I can but I don't have to, that's the point of a discussion. I would not bother making this topic if I expected everyone to agree with me. But it's hard to treat someone seriously if one's making an opinion without familiarizing oneself with the subject, that is very silly.

I said I didn't care not that I was too lazy to read lol, and you know why I didn't care? Because you contradicted yourself in the first paragraph. Depression and lifeless are emotions that are valid in media to show a character and their development throughout the story. And making the assumption I am uninformed is an egocentric take, you never bothered to ask anyone about their thoughts on voice acting and instead made paragraphs in which what do you want us to do? Make a rebuttal for it? You're not going to pull some burden or proof fallacy on all of us.