I really disliked the new James Sunderland

[H.E.C.U soldier]

It's true that the graphics and atmosphere are superior. I really like this remake. However, there is one compartment that the game suffers in. Character development. And it has to do with voice acting direction as well. While I admired the performance of the characters like Maria, Mary and Laura, I think the rest of the characters are bad. Mainly male ones this time. Why? They lack emotions. They are very depressed and lifeless. Not to mention my favourite dialogues from the original game were all cut, which is sad because most of them are the same, but the vital ones which question James's actions are completely cut, like his speech after confrontation with Eddie in refrigerator room and Angela in fire room or his argument with Mary's doctor, all cut!

Original voice actors showed a lot of emotions. James Sunderland, the main character suffers most from it, the way he is written in this game is very odd. Examples, he punches Eddie in the face, he is calm all the time, and when Angela asks if he's keeping knife for himself he says nothing at all, whereas in original he said "me? No, I..... I would never kill myself." I liked that a lot, because original James was that confused and lost guy, but still human. His deeds justified his behaviour in the original completely. That James' Magic was lost completely in the remake, which is very unfortunate. The actor is so boring, and he makes the character extremely boring too. This is suprising, that the main character is the most boring and poorly written one. But other that that it's a very good remake. It's just that the protagonist is completely different.


I suppose it's a matter of seeing difference of characters through the tone of voice and emotion put into it which I didn't see in the remake, I saw and heard a noticable difference and obviously I can't demonstrate it with lines of text but I can make a comparison to better picture it for your imagination, what I mean:

Original James character: "I am really motivated to see Mary again, it's very important to me. I would do anything to be with her again, I'm confused though, and shocked because of what happened to me, I have to make it right"
Which he even says in the story. And he has enough charisma to prove that he does actually care.

Remake James character: "I am a very depressed, lazy, boring guy, who is on anti-depressants and has dulled emotions because of it and me being a sad, pathetic person. I will talk very quiet and in the same tone all the time. Truth be told I just don't care, I will go through the story because I have to."
I could not share the story with this James because of it. He was sapped of all energy, spirit and emotions, tired all the time. I'm not blaming the actor himself, it may seem like I'm blaming his work, no, I meant the narrative direction of this character.

[Vagrant]

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[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Vagrant:

ok

That's not a rant, I know you treat me like idiot now. I was serious with this post. I mean, did you even read the whole of it?

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

That's not a rant,

Yeah sure but it's just you voicing your opinion.
You aren't even asking other people for their opinion.
You just made a thread to vent it seems like.

So what are you trying to accomplish here with this thread?
You like the original VA more, good for you.
You already made up your mind, that much is clear.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

That's not a rant,

Yeah sure but it's just you voicing your opinion.
You aren't even asking other people for their opinion.
You just made a thread to vent it seems like.

So what are you trying to accomplish here with this thread?
You like the original VA more, good for you.
You already made up your mind, that much is clear.

I want a discussion here, people can oppose me with fair arguments, it's like a debate whether I'm right or wrong, if you are done, then that means I'm right, because you did not even present any arguements to prove the contrary.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Yeah sure but it's just you voicing your opinion.
You aren't even asking other people for their opinion.
You just made a thread to vent it seems like.

So what are you trying to accomplish here with this thread?
You like the original VA more, good for you.
You already made up your mind, that much is clear.

I want a discussion here, people can oppose me with fair arguments, it's like a debate whether I'm right or wrong, if you are done, then that means I'm right, because you did not even present any arguements to prove the contrary.

I tried arguing with you in that other thread but all you said was that the new VA for james is "boring, boring" and "booooooring". Even compared him to squidward which is childish at best.

The very fact that you even talk about being right or wrong and emphasizing on being right is worrying. You are not here to discuss, you are here to "win".

Have fun man. The VA for James in the remake (Luke) is amazing. There is a reason he got nominated for best VA this year. You can keep on playing the original.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

I want a discussion here, people can oppose me with fair arguments, it's like a debate whether I'm right or wrong, if you are done, then that means I'm right, because you did not even present any arguements to prove the contrary.

I tried arguing with you in that other thread but all you said was that the new VA for james is "boring, boring" and "booooooring". Even compared him to squidward which is childish at best.

The very fact that you even talk about being right or wrong and emphasizing on being right is worrying. You are not here to discuss, you are here to "win".

Have fun man. The VA for James in the remake (Luke) is amazing. There is a reason he got nominated for best VA this year. You can keep on playing the original.

Then what are you doing here? Prove your points instead of promoting him. I gave multiple points and examples. Get out...

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

I tried arguing with you in that other thread but all you said was that the new VA for james is "boring, boring" and "booooooring". Even compared him to squidward which is childish at best.

The very fact that you even talk about being right or wrong and emphasizing on being right is worrying. You are not here to discuss, you are here to "win".

Have fun man. The VA for James in the remake (Luke) is amazing. There is a reason he got nominated for best VA this year. You can keep on playing the original.

Then what are you doing here? Prove your points instead of promoting him. I gave multiple points and examples. Get out...

I already did. I already told you.

Jesus Christ man.
Whatever. I'm out. Enjoy the OG game, I guess.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Then what are you doing here? Prove your points instead of promoting him. I gave multiple points and examples. Get out...

I already did. I already told you.

Jesus Christ man.
Whatever. I'm out. Enjoy the OG game, I guess.

Wow such emotions, guess you're not as boring as remake James Sunderland hehe and when did I say I like the OG game more?

[JocularJosh]

I'm just gonna leave this one here for everyone to see so you guys don't waste your time with OP:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

If you love that voice actor so much then marry him. I told you already I don't blame the voice actor. Your commitment to him is suggestive lol.

"I don't blame voice actor" - *literally blames voice acting in OP numerous times*

Classic behavior of a child.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

I'm just gonna leave this one here for everyone to see so you guys don't waste your time with OP:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

If you love that voice actor so much then marry him. I told you already I don't blame the voice actor. Your commitment to him is suggestive lol.

"I don't blame voice actor" - *literally blames voice acting in OP numerous times*

Classic behavior of a child.

Child argument adds nothing to the discussion, these are your personal feelings. Now that out of the way, the argument still stands. I don't blame the VA they hired, I blame their creative decisions which most likely he was following.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Yeah sure but it's just you voicing your opinion.
You aren't even asking other people for their opinion.
You just made a thread to vent it seems like.

So what are you trying to accomplish here with this thread?
You like the original VA more, good for you.
You already made up your mind, that much is clear.

I want a discussion here, people can oppose me with fair arguments, it's like a debate whether I'm right or wrong, if you are done, then that means I'm right, because you did not even present any arguements to prove the contrary.

My I remind you the VA in the original isn't amazing either and out of all the VA work in the remake James is the best out of the bunch.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Yeah sure but it's just you voicing your opinion.
You aren't even asking other people for their opinion.
You just made a thread to vent it seems like.

So what are you trying to accomplish here with this thread?
You like the original VA more, good for you.
You already made up your mind, that much is clear.

I want a discussion here, people can oppose me with fair arguments, it's like a debate whether I'm right or wrong, if you are done, then that means I'm right, because you did not even present any arguements to prove the contrary.

How does one argue over personal preference? This thread is pointless.

[H.E.C.U soldier]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by HECUsoldier:

I want a discussion here, people can oppose me with fair arguments, it's like a debate whether I'm right or wrong, if you are done, then that means I'm right, because you did not even present any arguements to prove the contrary.

How does one argue over personal preference? This thread is pointless.

What do you mean how does one argue over personal preference? You mean you can't argue over my preference? My preference is the most important one? Give arguements if you disagree and have other opinion on the matter. What's so strange to you?

[Bankai9212]

You don't like the new VA so what fair argument are you expecting? Nothing we say will change your mind. Again the thread is pointless moving on now.

[@R+5]

the atmosphere is among the first things this game gets wrong, but also one of the few that can be fixed partially through mods that improve lighting, colors and shadows.