Silent Hill 2 wasn't even nominated for GOTY

[Goneja]

Anyone knows why? Seems like a good horror-adventure game (never played original)

[JocularJosh]

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It would, alot of consumers have praised the astro at length.

And even more have praised Wukong lol.
Especially considering Astro Bot is a console exclusive game that can only be enjoyed by a fraction of the actual gamer-base.

[Giganx]

Having violence doesn't make something a horror game. BG3 is an RPG with heavy political themes and a lot of LGBTQ content. Critics absolutely love when a game gives them an excuse to preach or pander.

I'm just saying that these are industry awards, and in usual industry award fashion the horror game didn't even receive a nomination.

Too many gamers think these awards are about them, when in actuality these awards are the gaming industry celebrating itself. The only reason we're even kind of involved is because they want clicks,.

[JocularJosh]

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Having violence doesn't make something a horror game. BG3 is an RPG with heavy political themes and a lot of LGBTQ content. Critics absolutely love when a game gives them an excuse to preach or pander.

I'm just saying that these are industry awards, and in usual industry award fashion the horror game didn't even receive a nomination. Too many gamers think these awards are about them, when in actuality these awards are the gaming industry celebrating itself. The only reason we're even kind of involved is because they want clicks,.

For what it's worth: You are right.

You can see it everywhere when it comes to media. Shows, movies, games and hell even books. The Horror genre gets ignored all the damn time and it'S tiring to see.

Say what you want about, say, Hereditary (movie). Toni Collette (the mother) deserved an oscar for her performance but what ended up happening? She didn't even get nominated.

[Bankai9212]

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It would, alot of consumers have praised the astro at length.

And even more have praised Wukong lol.
Especially considering Astro Bot is a console exclusive game that can only be enjoyed by a fraction of the actual gamer-base.

Got best action game imo more important .

[Bankai9212]

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Having violence doesn't make something a horror game. BG3 is an RPG with heavy political themes and a lot of LGBTQ content. Critics absolutely love when a game gives them an excuse to preach or pander.

I'm just saying that these are industry awards, and in usual industry award fashion the horror game didn't even receive a nomination.

Too many gamers think these awards are about them, when in actuality these awards are the gaming industry celebrating itself. The only reason we're even kind of involved is because they want clicks,.

Except romancing the same sex has existed for awhile in bg3 and other RPGs. That’s not pandering the characters are written well but of course you want to make it political.

Awards are pointless I stop caring about that years ago. It’s a title that means nothing for me and yourself it’s out preference that matters.

I just want for trailers could care less about awards.

[Giganx]

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Except romancing the same sex has existed for awhile in bg3 and other RPGs. That’s not pandering the characters are written well but of course you want to make it political.

Awards are pointless I stop caring about that years ago. It’s a title that means nothing for me and yourself it’s out preference that matters.

I just want for trailers could care less about awards.

While BG3 did have a lot of LGBTQ content I don't think the game was pandering.

Gaming journalists, however, will happily turn anything into a platform to make themselves feel like they're enacting social change with their writing. Reviewing games that seem to tackle broad social issues makes journalists feel important.

I don't care too much about the awards either. It's important to understand that these awards aren't for gamers and don't represent gamers, though.

[Bankai9212]

So what part of Astro bot or BG3 did they use as part of social change? You keep saying that without explaining how. If that were the case games like dustborn wouldn't have been panned or have won one of the only categories it was nominated for. Your making it political I can say the awards tries to hype up the industry not politics.

[Giganx]

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So what part of Astro bot or BG3 did they use as part of social change? You keep saying that without explaining how. If that were the case games like dustborn wouldn't have been panned or have won one of the only categories it was nominated for. Your making it political I can say the awards tries to hype up the industry not politics.

The awards are meant for the industry to puff itself up and are a smattering of games journalists tend to like for personal reasons.

Astro Bot they like because their kids like it. BG3 they like because it covers a variety of broad social issues, so it feels like an "important" game to be reporting on.

To understand why games get nominated and win you have to understand what game journalists are... They're not gamers; they're industry mouthpieces, parents and aspiring social activists. Most of the games they support will fit those molds.

Horror has historically always been the genre that doesn't check the boxes of most industry sycophants. So, it gets ignored.

[Bankai9212]

Again your projecting something because you want it to. Most agreed with the nomination and awards. But since you think it’s all political how they think doesn’t matter does it?

How things are pick are based on popularity not really always politics or social issues I mean how was shadow of erd tree nominated? What journalistic reason?

You want every journalist to fit a specific mold. While some will be as you claim it’s not all.

Horror is a genre that’s not popular like stealth and im sims that’s why they’re rarely picked.

[Giganx]

It's like I said earlier, neither of us knows which games are actually the most popular. All I'm saying is that these industry awards don't tell us what's popular, they just tell us what the industries inner-circle and it's mouthpieces value.

Popularity among gamers doesn't factor into what games get nominated and what games win.

As for horror being ousted; it happens in every entertainment industry. It's the same kinds of people that always make up the inner circle of these industries, and the same kinds of movies, games and TV shows that always win.

The idea that you're participating/voting is mostly just a trick to get you to go to these websites and click on things. Website traffic and clicks are the metrics used to earn money from advertisers.

Or do you honestly believe that a game that only sold 1.5 million copies was legitimately the most popular game released this year?

[Pacino]

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Again your projecting something because you want it to. Most agreed with the nomination and awards. But since you think it’s all political how they think doesn’t matter does it?

How things are pick are based on popularity not really always politics or social issues I mean how was shadow of erd tree nominated? What journalistic reason?

You want every journalist to fit a specific mold. While some will be as you claim it’s not all.

Horror is a genre that’s not popular like stealth and im sims that’s why they’re rarely picked.

I might be alone on this opinion but I also think that the horror genre doesn't command the same respect anymore since they are mostly used as reactor bait these days. Obviously that isn't the fault of the games themselves (for the most part) but I do sense there is a correlation.

[königplatzen]

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Horror is a genre that’s not popular like stealth and im sims that’s why they’re rarely picked.

I remember that Alan Wake 2 had a surprising amount of awards in 2023, even if it was released very shortly before the award happened. (AW2 biggest prob was releasing it on Epic, though)

[@R+5]

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Seems like a good horror-adventure game

this version isnt. is riddle with issues (mostly from art direction, to level design and performance), probably from konami rushing devs, and limiting what they could do. also devs lacked enough experience for making this kind of game.

and, as others have mentioned it, is meaningless if they had earn or not something in the game awards, because they are not fair and honest. is just a fraud to push politics and ideological agendas, much like the oscars or other legacy media award shows, which are mostly also "pay to win".

watch this:

"Adam ruins everything: talent doesnt win oscars. money does"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MzO3X997ko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhfxo8xPNGU

i recommend you check his other videos of that series, as his own channel as well.

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(never played original)

now you can:

https://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/

[@R+5]

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Except romancing the same sex has existed for awhile in bg3 and other RPGs.

Actually, didnt existed "for awhile": same sex relation were among the last things added to the game when it was in development, precisely to try to evade bad pr from activists, and somehow they managed to preserve the integrity of the rest of the game, which is why is not pandering, like most games that do include them. similar thing happens when female characters are made intentionally ugly or include more masculine features (bigger jaw, wider shoulders, bizarre body proportions or less appealing bone structure).

one of the few games, that included same sex relation which didnt appear forced or preachy was mass effect 2, and thats one of the reasons its presence is rarely considered consequence of dei or activism (which is still possible could have influence, but not at a degree it affected dialogues or the main game and gameplay negatively).

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but of course you want to make it political.

without politics and activism, those features would remain as rare as they used to be 15 years ago. people have become used to assume they are consequence of activism, rather that something genuine added for the sake of letting everyone have an option to do whatever they want when playing.

no one reasonable wants to make it political: it has become a political topic, as consequence of those using that topic for that purpose before anything is designed or sold.

[Bankai9212]

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Again your projecting something because you want it to. Most agreed with the nomination and awards. But since you think it’s all political how they think doesn’t matter does it?

How things are pick are based on popularity not really always politics or social issues I mean how was shadow of erd tree nominated? What journalistic reason?

You want every journalist to fit a specific mold. While some will be as you claim it’s not all.

Horror is a genre that’s not popular like stealth and im sims that’s why they’re rarely picked.

I might be alone on this opinion but I also think that the horror genre doesn't command the same respect anymore since they are mostly used as reactor bait these days. Obviously that isn't the fault of the games themselves (for the most part) but I do sense there is a correlation.

Its not an opinion horror one of the least popular genres.