SBI Inc., DEI, Backlash, etc., is ridiculous.

[BlissDefiler]

I'm against SBI's agenda more than most, however, I don't see any rational reason for the backlash against this game. It's not like the (all white) cast has been recast or there's a bunch of random political stuff added in, like Pyramid Head is actually just hunting down a group of systemic oppressors for social justice Lol. Seems the main reason people are crying is because one character who, if I'm not mistaken, was abused repeatedly and then killed her parents isn't "hot." I get the Maria thing, but a few inches of flesh not showing isn't enough for a boycott. It's not like James is another ethnicity or Mary is Mark now.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Bloviation

[turn heel]

I love the “it’s not like” crowd.

[Hex: Cuse Me]

Angela wasn't supposed to be hot at all in the OG either. Only some few losers and trolls started the usual ragebait drama because one single camera angle, duh. Nothing new nowadays.

[Hermit]

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

I'm against SBI's agenda more than most, however, I don't see any rational reason for the backlash against this game. It's not like the (all white) cast has been recast or there's a bunch of random political stuff added in, like Pyramid Head is actually just hunting down a group of systemic oppressors for social justice Lol. Seems the main reason people are crying is because one character who, if I'm not mistaken, was abused repeatedly and then killed her parents isn't "hot." I get the Maria thing, but a few inches of flesh not showing isn't enough for a boycott. It's not like James is another ethnicity or Mary is Mark now.

Just buy the game. this isnt going to change any minds.

[BlissDefiler]

Yeah bro, cause my post was about how I wasn't going to buy it. Lol

[BlissDefiler]

Originally posted by Lallet Pooping:

Angela wasn't supposed to be hot at all in the OG either. Only some few losers and trolls started the usual ragebait drama because one single camera angle, duh. Nothing new nowadays.

Exactly. People cry about anything about everything. When dragonsiege, I think, had one transgender character who wasn't flaunting it or anything, they went insane.

[WuffWabbit]

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

I'm against SBI's agenda more than most, however, I don't see any rational reason for the backlash against this game. It's not like the (all white) cast has been recast or there's a bunch of random political stuff added in, like Pyramid Head is actually just hunting down a group of systemic oppressors for social justice Lol. Seems the main reason people are crying is because one character who, if I'm not mistaken, was abused repeatedly and then killed her parents isn't "hot." I get the Maria thing, but a few inches of flesh not showing isn't enough for a boycott. It's not like James is another ethnicity or Mary is Mark now.

Conflating the people who are upset about gaming companies consulting DEI companies to water down and change things that might "offend" people as being the same as those complaining about Angela not hot to them anymore is your first mistake. Those aren't the same things and here is why:

1: The first group notices a trend in gaming that is harming games and artistic vision overall and are upset about it. They hate the practice of this consulting and the effects that come from it.

2: The second group are mostly trolls and if they aren't doing it to troll, are the small majority who (wrongly) think the only purpose a female character serves is being attractive TO THEM.

And it's also weird how you point out SH2 is all white, it was made by Japanese people too. Any game has the right to have as much or as LITTLE racial diversity as they DANG WELL PLEASE. It's nobodies job to cater to anyone. If minorities want more minorities in games then they need to start creating games themselves instead of holding other people responsible for not representing them enough.

It's just nonsense.

[YuGo]

If you know what Maria's problem is in this remake, then you have an idea of ​​what's coming.
It'll be a surprise if the whole story about James and Mary hasn't been changed in this remake. Or Angela's story with her family, will it stay true to the original? And what about Eddie?
Here's the thing.
If they censored a simple belly button out of fear of offending the snowflakes, imagine what they did with the rest of the disturbing story and all the symbolism of SH2...

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

Originally posted by Lallet Pooping:

Angela wasn't supposed to be hot at all in the OG either. Only some few losers and trolls started the usual ragebait drama because one single camera angle, duh. Nothing new nowadays.

Exactly. People cry about anything about everything. When dragonsiege, I think, had one transgender character who wasn't flaunting it or anything, they went insane.

If I were a transgender person then I would be insulted at how the gaming industry are thinking. The industry think diversity means butt ugly and nothing else.

[Harry Scrowtem]

SBI/DEI gaslighters are sicker than the people who want Pyramid Head to remain a grapist. NO ONE wanted Angela to be "hot" they wanted her NOT to look and sound like she could pass for a he.

[lexmax98]

they can always use mods to change Angela's face

[@R+5]

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

I'm against SBI's agenda more than most,

Sure, go on...

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

however, I don't see any rational reason for the backlash against this game.

And there it is.

Why would the original audience for a product, idea, service, whatever, would care about if a new addition something is genuine or not?

or worse: a re-branding, with the original content and ingredients swapped with something else, maybe (usually) of lesser quality?

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

It's not like the (all white) cast has been recast or there's a bunch of random political stuff added in, like Pyramid Head is actually just hunting down a group of systemic oppressors for social justice Lol.

warning: to comprehend the following text, you will need "imagination".

If you go to a restaurant, and ask for anything you find in the menu, and lets say you find a soup or any other dish as a good option to eat after reading which ingredients are used, and then when that arrives, is something completely different, you obv would be annoy.

But lets say, only one ingredient was replaced, and maybe its one of those things that you are allergic to, or find unpleasant to your taste. what happens if you still eat that? nothing? if you dont complain, and no one else complains, then the cook could think, "it worked", and will continue doing that or worse.

or lets say not only your food arrive, and even if the recipe changed, it was still close to the original, and you enjoyed it, even if not as much as the original one. But then, this guy that loves to eat insects throws some over it, and tells you "try it: is tasty". that would not only be insulting to the cook, but also to you. no imagine that same guy (or gal) is focused in trying to force you eat that, and wont even pay you after corrupting the food you pay for, and then the cook and the staff are indifferent about that guy, and no one is doing anything, because no one want to confront him or her.

what do you think will happen? that person will believe it has impunity. free to do and act as he or she likes, whenever, wherever.

You would be either like that guy (or gal), or someone supporting his (or her) actions.

Thats the bigger issue.

[THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK]

Originally posted by lexmax98:

they can always use mods to change Angela's face

would they want to though with all their plumpshus contrafibularities? Just a thought.

[[Redacted]]

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

I'm against SBI's agenda more than most, however...

Are you sure about that? It seems like you are going out of your to conflate the real issue and defending the agenda.

I'm getting controlled opposition vibes after reading that post.

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

...like Pyramid Head is actually just hunting down a group of systemic oppressors for social justice Lol.

Aside from being the most ridiculous assertion I've seen yet said by no one who played the OG SH2, social justice is still a political agenda.

You don't honestly believe that Japanese game developers cared about western society's "social justice" crusade in 2001, do you? Do you?

Also, using the woke cult's language with "systemic oppressors" erroneously trying to tie that political narrative to SH2 just sent the controlled opposition vibes into overdrive.

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

Seems the main reason people are crying is because one character who, if I'm not mistaken, was abused repeatedly and then killed her parents isn't "hot."

https://imgur.com/a/9hWK34R

I thought she was attractive, but that isn't the crux of the issue.

Sure, the 2001 Angela on the right is a still taken from a cinematic, but most people will agree the character design was far better 23 years ago.

Western developers believe that their mythical "mOdeRn AUdiENcE" doesn't want to see attractive women being attractive women in their games anymore.

Regardless, the uglification of female characters isn't righting any perceived wrong in the industry and helps no one.

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

I get the Maria thing, but a few inches of flesh not showing isn't enough for a boycott.

https://imgur.com/a/Vc8vqbH

First and foremost she looks like she had top surgery, however, while the face is more realistic and attractive, she just comes across as a scared little victim instead.

James is now an action hero when he's just supposed to be a regular guy.

Angela is unnecessarily ugly looking like David Duchovny playing Mangela.

Maria is not the seductive temptation manifested by the town to haunt James over his guilt for what really happened to his wife, Mary.

When you change the characters' roles within the narrative you are now changing the story and by extension the relevant themes.

People thought they would be getting a more faithful adaptation of a remake for one of the most iconic survival horror games, but instead Konami has been projecting something inauthentic to the OG SH2.

The poor presales thus far indicates that gamers really are just tired of this kind of thing.

[Hex: Cuse Me]

Originally posted by THE VERY REVEREND MISTER BONK:

Originally posted by BlissDefiler:

Exactly. People cry about anything about everything. When dragonsiege, I think, had one transgender character who wasn't flaunting it or anything, they went insane.

If I were a transgender person then I would be insulted at how the gaming industry are thinking. The industry think diversity means butt ugly and nothing else.

But everything you said doesn't make sense regarding this remake, so please try harder next time.