Happy ending? I don't want to play this game?

[Doublestack]

What's the point of playing this game? Just make a happy ending where he finds his wife... I don't want to play 10 hours and get depressing ending. Games must be fun! We go to city... we kill all zombies and we save his wife!

[Maraxus]

Leave ending is positive, ends on a good note although it's still sad what James went through.

There's another less-canonical ending you can do on NG+ that's.... potentially better but has some dark implications

[Diesel]

Originally posted by Maraxus:

Leave ending is positive, ends on a good note although it's still sad what James went through.

There's another less-canonical ending you can do on NG+ that's.... potentially better but has some dark implications

Is that the Bliss ending? I'd say that's a pretty dark ending, it's obviously a play on "Ignorance is bliss" in which James refuses to ever come to terms that he killed Mary

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by Diesel:

Originally posted by Maraxus:

Leave ending is positive, ends on a good note although it's still sad what James went through.

There's another less-canonical ending you can do on NG+ that's.... potentially better but has some dark implications

Is that the Bliss ending? I'd say that's a pretty dark ending, it's obviously a play on "Ignorance is bliss" in which James refuses to ever come to terms that he killed Mary

No, I was referring to the rebirth ending. Bliss seems so fake that I cant even consider it positive in any redeeming sense. It's definitely the most awful of the endings imho

[angstlicht]

Originally posted by Doublestack:

I don't want to play 10 hours and get depressing ending.

don't be ridiculous, this is silent hill!
you play 20 hours and then a brigade of dedicated internet emos lectures you all the remotely positive endings don't really count.

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by angstlicht:

Originally posted by Doublestack:

I don't want to play 10 hours and get depressing ending.

dont be ridiculous, this is silent hill!
you play 20 hours and then a brigade of dedicated internet emos lectures you all the remotely positive endings don't really count.

I dunno, I always felt that even the "best" ending (Leave) was bittersweet. It definitely still counts and fits the narrative

[angstlicht]

Originally posted by Maraxus:

Originally posted by angstlicht:

dont be ridiculous, this is silent hill!
you play 20 hours and then a brigade of dedicated internet emos lectures you all the remotely positive endings don't really count.

I dunno, I always felt that even the "best" ending (Leave) was bittersweet. It definitely still counts and fits the narrative

leave??? The dog ending is not only logistically possible and emotionally uplifting, but the most thematically resonant with real life; yet it's treated as a fake ending simply because attaining enlightenment cannot already be the status quo but a willing demorphing process on the false reality (dog contraption) minds often inhabit.

[Raywhisper]

Problem with rebirth ending is that we never actually get to see Marry being reborn. It can be interpretted that there indeed are some old gods in motion and James can rebirth his dead wife due to sacrifices and rituals... or (what I think is most likely) he completely lost his marbles trying to cling on desperate hope.

[angstlicht]

Originally posted by Raywhisper:

Problem with rebirth ending is that we never actually get to see Marry being reborn. It can be interpretted that there indeed are some old gods in motion and James can rebirth his dead wife due to sacrifices and rituals... or (what I think is most likely) he completely lost his marbles trying to cling on desperate hope.

Even if it worked does that make necromancy suddenly not an insane basis for a relationship? Now he can just pay his lovecraft tax and kill her on a whim consequence free. He'd be trying some freak stuff just to keep his love life interesting.

[ArchLobster]

Originally posted by Doublestack:

What's the point of playing this game? Just make a happy ending where he finds his wife... I don't want to play 10 hours and get depressing ending. Games must be fun! We go to city... we kill all zombies and we save his wife!

I'm all for happy endings, but Horror as a genre tends to not have "happy". Gotta know what you're getting into.

Survival is the goal, not happy. There are rare exceptions to this rule, but that's all they are; exceptions.

[Breeding Medicine]

I agree, we need more games like fortnite which are there to simply make us happy and do some ingame purchases, like 300$ per user.

[JudgeMental1337]

well the point of the game is to confront your emotions, reflect on yourself while playing james and judging his decisions and your own in life. I get It that this can be hard and you want a happy ending, but thats life. If you want a save space in videogames, play something different like animal crossing or barbies big paradise.

[klimat13]

Originally posted by Raywhisper:

Problem with rebirth ending is that we never actually get to see Marry being reborn. It can be interpretted that there indeed are some old gods in motion and James can rebirth his dead wife due to sacrifices and rituals... or (what I think is most likely) he completely lost his marbles trying to cling on desperate hope.

Well, it's Silent Hill, so believing in something to the extreme tends to manifest that thing for real. Also spoilers for SH1/3 we know for a fact Alessa was able to reincarnate as Heather, no questions about it, it only took her regressing in age and temporarily loosing her memories. But she indeed went from a burned husk to a normal girl again.
So different Rebirth interpretations are possible and are not a crazy thing to consider.

[Dudditz]

Originally posted by klimat13:

Originally posted by Raywhisper:

Problem with rebirth ending is that we never actually get to see Marry being reborn. It can be interpretted that there indeed are some old gods in motion and James can rebirth his dead wife due to sacrifices and rituals... or (what I think is most likely) he completely lost his marbles trying to cling on desperate hope.

Well, it's Silent Hill, so believing in something to the extreme tends to manifest that thing for real. Also spoilers for SH1/3 we know for a fact Alessa was able to reincarnate as Heather, no questions about it, it only took her regressing in age and temporarily loosing her memories. But she indeed went from a burned husk to a normal girl again.
So different Rebirth interpretations are possible and are not a crazy thing to consider.

People tend to forget that Alessa is one hell of physic that with her power alone can tear fabrics of reality, and James just your everyday depressed clerk with minimum pay (from his father of course)[/spoiler}

[@R+5]

then you shouldnt use your time in horror, if you dont like to think about dark themes and "existentialist" questions often attached to the genre.

in horror, bad ending are common, for obvious reasons.

btw, a "comedy" is any story with a "good ending". in comedy-horror, that can happen; and the silent hill franchise does include a few "not so grim" and even comical "alternative endings".

[klimat13]

Originally posted by Dudditz:

Originally posted by klimat13:

Well, it's Silent Hill, so believing in something to the extreme tends to manifest that thing for real. Also spoilers for SH1/3 we know for a fact Alessa was able to reincarnate as Heather, no questions about it, it only took her regressing in age and temporarily loosing her memories. But she indeed went from a burned husk to a normal girl again.
So different Rebirth interpretations are possible and are not a crazy thing to consider.

People tend to forget that Alessa is one hell of physic that with her power alone can tear fabrics of reality, and James just your everyday depressed clerk with minimum pay (from his father of course)

Well, what does it even mean to be a physic in Silent Hill? Is that some inherent trait, or was Alessa so powerful because she was brainwashed into strong crazy beliefs by her mother from the day she was born and the more you believe, the more you manifest your thoughts into reality?
If it's option one, James has no chance, if it's option two, he does.
I believe it's option two, by the way, since it makes Alessa an important part of a system, but not the end all be all. We know even with the Order she was not the only option, they also had Walter Sullivan, who gave Alessa run for her money. Also I believe one of the points of SH2 was to demonstrate that you don't necessarily need Alessa to manifest horrors, anyone with sufficient trauma will do, it's just a matter of how bad the trauma or belief is and how much power can be extracted from those.