SILENT HILL 2

SILENT HILL 2

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nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 4:51pm
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[SPOILERS] Game is AWESOME but the coin puzzle borders on mental retar*ation
Please tell me the puzzles get less random and more sophisticated after the coin puzzle (hard puzzle difficulty). Like, I'm all for a good challenge but wtf was that?

"Three bright coins, three actors in play, yet within the shade, not one doth remain."

This sentence has LITERALLY NOTHING to do with the solution. I thought about ridicously complicated things like "ok, maybe no coin can be on the left side below the moon" or even "oh there are clouds below the sun, there cannot be a coin".

"The one once so gallant has fled from day’s sheen, as far as he could go from the icon of sin."

This riddle never implies in any way where the snake should be. Also, following the story of adam and eve, the "so gallant" one could be the snake...

"The one whom he swore to shield in her life, now lays in a grave, away from his sight."

This HEAVILY implies the "guy" is not looking at her, which makes sense since his face on the coin is looking at a specific direction. But placing the coins so that he doesn't "look" at her grave of course isn't the correct solution.

And no, I'm not salty because I couldn't figure it out. I indeed did it myself, but was kinda baffled that the real solution had barely anything to do with all the """hints""" given by the game.
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Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 4:57pm 
Its actually very easy to resolve. I resolved it on 3rd try.

You need to think what does it mean. There is a sun and a moon there. The tree provides a shade from both sunlight and moonlight, no? If not one doth remain in a shade, what does it mean then?

Think.
Last edited by Alabeo; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:01pm
nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by Alabeo:
Its actually very easy to resolve. I resolved it on 3rd try.

You need to think what does it mean. The tree provides a shade, no? If none doth remain in a shade, what does it mean then?

Think.

nope, second from right is still under the tree and the solution needs the grave to go there.

"Think" lmao
Last edited by nomatter; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:04pm
Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by nomatter:
Originally posted by Alabeo:
Its actually very easy to resolve. I resolved it on 3rd try.

You need to think what does it mean. The tree provides a shade, no? If none doth remain in a shade, what does it mean then?

Think.

nope, second from right is still under the tree and the solution needs the grave to go there.

I will give you solution just to this to this then. I won't spoil entire puzzle.

Third slot regardless of side must be empty, directly underneath a tree, which is in a shade, what it means is that whatever is directly under a tree is in a shade.
Last edited by Alabeo; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:06pm
nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
Mate maybe read my post and learn basic English first? I solved it, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In hindisght you can """explain""" everything but this is just a sloppy oversight from the devs.
Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
It's not oversight at all. How can this be oversight, when all it asks of you is to think outside of the box?

You are blaming a game for your inability to think outside the box and use imagination.

I solved it without any guides by simply re-reading the poems.
Last edited by Alabeo; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:08pm
nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by nomatter:
Mate maybe read my post and learn basic English first? I solved it, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In hindisght you can """explain""" everything but this is just a sloppy oversight from the devs.

Why is there no shade right below the moon? Why is there no shade below the sun where a cloud is? Why do the twigs of the tree do not create shade?
nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Alabeo:
It's not oversight at all. How can this be oversight, when all it asks of you to think outside of the box?

I solved it without any guides by simply re-reading the poems.

Yeah I solved it without guides, too. Reread my initial post. Still, half of the "clues" are nonsense and the rest is hilarously vague.
Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by nomatter:
Originally posted by nomatter:
Mate maybe read my post and learn basic English first? I solved it, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In hindisght you can """explain""" everything but this is just a sloppy oversight from the devs.

Why is there no shade right below the moon? Why is there no shade below the sun where a cloud is? Why do the twigs of the tree do not create shade?

Because the largest object in that drawing on the box is the tree itself. It tries to guide you and make you see objects of importance and it encapsulates three slots on the board due to circle. Tree is the biggest object - that means its the most important one. It means that the tree, because its so big, provides the biggest shade. You must think, what this wants from you.

"Three bright coins, three actors in play, yet within the shade, not one doth remain."

Means that none of the actors on the coins were underneath the tree directly. A grave is not an actor, its an object.

So both Man and Snake are not directly under any tree. The Grave is, in fourth slot, second from the right.
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nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:13pm 
The first sentence LITERALLY says there are THREE actors. Mate, you got it right by accident, be proud. This doesn't mean the riddle makes sense.
Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by nomatter:
The first sentence LITERALLY says there are THREE actors. Mate, you got it right by accident, be proud. This doesn't mean the riddle makes sense.
No I'm pretty sure I know how I resolved it and it wasn't an accident, but keep gaslighting me and try keep blaming the game for lack of imagination. I'm done.
nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Alabeo:
Originally posted by nomatter:
The first sentence LITERALLY says there are THREE actors. Mate, you got it right by accident, be proud. This doesn't mean the riddle makes sense.
No I'm pretty sure I know how I resolved it and it wasn't an accident, but keep gaslighting me and try keep blaming the game for lack of imagination. I'm done.

How is it gaslighting when I'm telling you what the game LITERALLY says? lmao.

"Three bright coins, three actors in play, yet within the shade, not one doth remain."

THREE COINS. THREE ACTORS. NONE UNDER SHADE. So why is the grave below the twigs?
Last edited by nomatter; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:17pm
Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:17pm 
Three bright coins, three actors in play,

yet within the shade, not one doth remain.

The one once so gallant had fled from day’s sheen,

as far as he could from the icon of sin.

The one whom he swore to shield in her life,

now lays in a grave, away from his sight.


It all seems clear to me, it points where grave is, it points that none of the actors are in shade, but the last two sentences literally say where a grave is, so three actors, two were alive, one later killed.

Reading comprehension.
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nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Alabeo:

Three bright coins, three actors in play,

yet within the shade, not one doth remain.

The one once so gallant had fled from day’s sheen,

as far as he could from the icon of sin.

The one whom he swore to shield in her life,

now lays in a grave, away from his sight.


It all seems clear to me, it points where grave is, it points that none of the actors are in shade, but the last two literally say where a grave is, so three actors, one was alive, later killed.

Reading comprehension.

Ok this is kinda funny because I'm sure you cannot answer the following questions:

- How do you know where the grave is supposed to be? We already talked about that being under the tree's twigs is "within shade".

- "but the last two literally say where a grave is" loooolllll how? It just says "away from his sight" which is EXTREMELY misleading since the face on the coin is looking right at her in the "correct" solution.

EDIT: I think, since the devs are not natural English speakers, they meant "site" instead of "sight". Although this would have only made this a tiny bit better.
Last edited by nomatter; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:28pm
Alabeo Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:34pm 
Okay so let me break this down.

Three bright coins, three actors in play,
yet within the shade, not one doth remain.

This is supposed to tell you that already none of the "actors" will be in the shade. But what gives, you have three actors.

So you keep reading...

The one once so gallant had fled from day’s sheen,
as far as he could from the icon of sin.

So the man ran away as far as he could from the Day's sheen. So he's under the moon. Because night is opposite to the day. As far as he could from Icon of sin. Snake is an icon of Sin, so as far as he could, that means the snake is in the very last slot to the right, right under the sun.

Then you keep reading...
The one whom he swore to shield in her life
now lays in a grave, away from his sight.

Well, he swore to protect the maiden, right? Well, he run away and now she lays in a grave away from his sight. Given that the man is all the way to the left, in first slot, away from his sight, means that the maiden's grave is actually also away from him to the right, because there are no slots to the left 'away' from him. How you can explain this also, is that the tree makes it "away from his sight", because it blocks his view of the grave, but away also means distance.
Last edited by Alabeo; Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:40pm
nomatter Oct 11, 2024 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by Alabeo:
Okay so let me break this down.
Three bright coins, three actors in play,
yet within the shade, not one doth remain.[/quote]

This is supposed to tell you that already none of the "actors" will be in the shade. But what gives, you have three actors.

So you keep reading...

The one once so gallant had fled from day’s sheen,
as far as he could from the icon of sin.

So the man ran away as far as he could from the Day's sheen. So he's under the moon. Because night is opposite to the day. As far as he could from Icon of sin. Snake is an icon of Sin, so as far as he could, that means the snake is in the very last slot to the right, right under the sun.

Then you keep reading...
The one whom he swore to shield in her life
now lays in a grave, away from his sight.

Well, he swore to protect the maiden, right? Well, he run away and now she lays in a grave away from his sight. Given that the man is all the way to the left, in first slot, away from his sight, means that the maiden's grave is actually also away from him to the right, because he there are no slots to the left 'away' from him. How you can explain this also, is that the tree makes it "away from his sight", because it blocks his view of the grave.

"So the man ran away as far as he could from the Day's sheen. So he's under the moon. Because night is opposite to the day. As far as he could from Icon of sin. Snake is an icon of Sin, so as far as he could, that means the snake is in the very last slot to the right, right under the sun."


No, this doesn't imply that the snake is on the most right spot. This is simple logic and here's information missing. If you're into programming, try to put this into the language called "prolog". This will not parse.

"Well, he run away and now she lays in a grave away from his sight. Given that the man is all the way to the left, in first slot, away from his sight, means that the maiden's grave is actually also away from him to the right, because he there are no slots to the left 'away' from him. How you can explain this also, is that the tree makes it "away from his sight", because it blocks his view of the grave"

This is literaly gibberish. Why to the right? The tree blocking his view or "sight" is a hilariously far fetched interpretation. Other coins could mean they are blocking his sight. Him looking into a different direction could mean "out of his sight". Etc etc.
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