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vese91 Nov 11, 2024 @ 7:33am
I can't figure out how to enable free sync
Hi guys, I know that this question is not strictly related to Silent Hill 2 Remake, but I have a problem. I do not understand how to activate Free Sync.

GPU: Zotac RTX 3060 Twin Edge 12GB
Monitor: Acer VG270 27" IPS 75Hz

The GPU is connected to the Monitor (which is labelled to have Free-Sync) via one way "DP to HDMI" cable as I've read that Nvidia GPUs enables Free-Sync only via Display Port, but on Nvidia Control panel I still have no option to enable it. Every guide tells me to go on Nvidia Control panel and simply turn it on, but I literally have no option.

Do I necessarily need a G-Sync compatible monitor? On reddit some say that there is no need, but it seems not true.

Any help? Ty!
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Xiaopang Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:06am 
Have you tried using an HDMI port or USB-C port (if your card has one) instead? Those offer G-Sync on my RTX 2070. Never tried DP for that, but according to Nvidia as long as you have DP 1.2a it should be supported for old GTX 1080s. Can't imagine that they would change that for newer cards, but who knows.

You also have to enable Freesync on your monitor. It might not be on by default. If you have a multi-monitor setup, disconnect the second monitor for the time being and see if that helps. Also, your monitor requires at least 48 fps for Freesync to work:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/technologies/freesync/monitors.html

If you can't get this type of performance, then no settings will help you. It will just stay inactive. It should show up as active in the Nvidia Control panel though.

Just in case you're overlooking the option, this is how it looks like in Nvidia Control panel:

https://freeimage.host/i/2TSjGqP

Originally posted by vese91:
Do I necessarily need a G-Sync compatible monitor? On reddit some say that there is no need, but it seems not true.

Naw, you can just play your games without it. I get more screen tearing with it than just enabling VSync. I also can't see any performance benefits. My games don't run faster by not using VSync. Personally, I think it's overrated and just a placebo to have one more useless feature to push on gamers. Your monitor is a good example for that. If you manage more than 48 fps consistently, then turning on VSync will do nothing to your performance.
Last edited by Xiaopang; Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:19am
I Miss Her Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by vese91:
Hi guys, I know that this question is not strictly related to Silent Hill 2 Remake, but I have a problem. I do not understand how to activate Free Sync.

GPU: Zotac RTX 3060 Twin Edge 12GB
Monitor: Acer VG270 27" IPS 75Hz

The GPU is connected to the Monitor (which is labelled to have Free-Sync) via one way "DP to HDMI" cable as I've read that Nvidia GPUs enables Free-Sync only via Display Port, but on Nvidia Control panel I still have no option to enable it. Every guide tells me to go on Nvidia Control panel and simply turn it on, but I literally have no option.

Do I necessarily need a G-Sync compatible monitor? On reddit some say that there is no need, but it seems not true.

Any help? Ty!

Did you check your monitor settings? There will be something in there, although normally it would be on by default.

I have an Asus VG27A and on mine it is under Image --> Adaptive-Sync

If it is disabled then it will not show up as an option in NVCPL. So look in your monitor menu it will be be listed under Image or Gaming or Modes or something like that. If not sure just check every section of the monitor settings or look in your user manual/google your user manual for where it's located.
I Miss Her Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Xiaopang:
Naw, you can just play your games without it. I get more screen tearing with it than just enabling VSync. I also can't see any performance benefits. Personally, I think it's overrated and just a placebo to have one more useless feature to push to gamers.

G-Sync/Freesync is absolutely amazing that is UNDER rated and for surely not "placebo", what's happening is that you are using one or more incorrect setttings so it's likely not even active or if it is the wrong settings defeat the purpose of it but don't feel bad and I'm not trying to be a ♥♥♥♥ to you, they literally made it needlessly complicated when it should just be an off/on feature.

It took me awhile to figure out what was going on and how to use it, after suffering through so much bad advice and misinformation from people that have no idea what they're talking about yet love to spew "advice" and "suggestions" that they copy/pasted from other people that don't know what they're talking about.. /end rant sorry lol still triggers me many years later hah

If your FPS is within Gsync/freesync range & everything is set correctly (Windows/GPU/Monitor/Game) you'll never see tearing and 60FPS on high refresh rates feels and looks amazing. It is night & day. But wrong settings will feel terrible and look terrible as well.

Edit: Not sure why you brought up Vsync or maybe I'm confused but to be clear. When Gsync is correctly set/active & within range it is the only sync method in use.

Gsync/Freesync is the best, most flexible syncing solution available and no other methods, including Vsync disabled, are able to even come close in both the sheer consistency of its frame delivery and input lag reduction.
Last edited by I Miss Her; Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:41am
Xiaopang Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by I Miss Her:
G-Sync/Freesync is absolutely amazing that is UNDER rated and for surely not "placebo", what's happening is that you are using one or more incorrect setttings so it's likely not even active or if it is the wrong settings defeat the purpose of it but don't feel bad and I'm not trying to be a ♥♥♥♥ to you, they literally made it needlessly complicated when it should just be an off/on feature.

No worries, but why do you think it's under rated? If you manage to get 60 fps, why not just use VSync? Achieves the same thing without the headache.
I Miss Her Nov 11, 2024 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Xiaopang:
Originally posted by I Miss Her:
G-Sync/Freesync is absolutely amazing that is UNDER rated and for surely not "placebo", what's happening is that you are using one or more incorrect setttings so it's likely not even active or if it is the wrong settings defeat the purpose of it but don't feel bad and I'm not trying to be a ♥♥♥♥ to you, they literally made it needlessly complicated when it should just be an off/on feature.

No worries, but why do you think it's under rated? If you manage to get 60 fps, why not just use VSync? Achieves the same thing without the headache.

Opps I updated my original post and then got side tracked for a few mins, so you might want to read the edit.

Even in the worst possible cases Gsync/Freesync destroys Vsync. It's not even a fair fight :)
Xiaopang Nov 11, 2024 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by I Miss Her:
Gsync/Freesync is the best, most flexible syncing solution available and no other methods, including Vsync disabled, are able to even come close in both the sheer consistency of its frame delivery and input lag reduction.

lol you sound like Freesync sales man. Also, this is verifiably false. VSync's entire function is to prevent screen tearing and it does it perfectly. Has been doing so since the 90s. Not sure what you mean by "sheer consistency of its frame delivery". Sounds like some words cobbled together without any meaning. Freesync stops working below its range while VSync works down to 1 fps....always.

Fact is, the outcome is the same: a smooth picture. Both technologies achieve that and one isn't "smoother" than the other, so I'm not sure what you're on about with your sales pitch. You're welcome to get into the nitty gritty and explain how it "destroys VSync" from a technical point of few. Don't spare me the details. I work in IT.
I Miss Her Nov 11, 2024 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by Xiaopang:
Originally posted by I Miss Her:
Gsync/Freesync is the best, most flexible syncing solution available and no other methods, including Vsync disabled, are able to even come close in both the sheer consistency of its frame delivery and input lag reduction.

lol you sound like Freesync sales man. Also, this is verifiably false. VSync's entire function is to prevent screen tearing and it does it perfectly. Has been doing so since the 90s. Not sure what you mean by "sheer consistency of its frame delivery". Sounds like some words cobbled together without any meaning. Freesync stops working below its range while VSync works down to 1 fps....always.

Fact is, the outcome is the same: a smooth picture. Both technologies achieve that and one isn't "smoother" than the other, so I'm not sure what you're on about with your sales pitch. You're welcome to get into the nitty gritty and explain how it "destroys VSync" from a technical point of few. Don't spare me the details. I work in IT.

Holy moly..

Doesn't matter what your job is, the questions you asked and the things you've stated in this thread clearly show that you don't understand even the slightest about how even Vsync works or its drawbacks.

So you're asking me to teach you how Vsync works, and it's drawbacks. Then explain how Gsync works, then why & how it is better in every possible situation.

Really?
Xiaopang Nov 11, 2024 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by I Miss Her:
Originally posted by Xiaopang:

lol you sound like Freesync sales man. Also, this is verifiably false. VSync's entire function is to prevent screen tearing and it does it perfectly. Has been doing so since the 90s. Not sure what you mean by "sheer consistency of its frame delivery". Sounds like some words cobbled together without any meaning. Freesync stops working below its range while VSync works down to 1 fps....always.

Fact is, the outcome is the same: a smooth picture. Both technologies achieve that and one isn't "smoother" than the other, so I'm not sure what you're on about with your sales pitch. You're welcome to get into the nitty gritty and explain how it "destroys VSync" from a technical point of few. Don't spare me the details. I work in IT.

Holy moly..

Doesn't matter what your job is, the questions you asked and the things you've stated in this thread clearly show that you don't understand even the slightest about how even Vsync works or its drawbacks.

So you're asking me to teach you how Vsync works, and it's drawbacks. Then explain how Gsync works, then why & how it is better in every possible situation.

Really?

No, I asked you to explain your claim how Freesync "destroys VSync". Unlike you, I know perfectly well how both Freesync and VSync work. Don't act like you know stuff. Remember: by your own admission, you had to find information online how to even utilize Freesync, not even being able to discern good info from bad one. If your competence level is that low, you have no business telling anyone anything about this stuff.

I gave you a shot. All you came back with is word salad. If you want to convince me of your opinion (which I didn't ask for btw, but wth go for it), then you'll have to bring more than your meaningless nonsense. If you can't do that, then I'm not interested in you further derailing this thread. Op asked a question and all you did so far was trolling. If you can't bring anything to the table, then don't expect any more answers.
Last edited by Xiaopang; Nov 11, 2024 @ 9:53am
vese91 Nov 11, 2024 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Xiaopang:
You also have to enable Freesync on your monitor. It might not be on by default. If you have a multi-monitor setup, disconnect the second monitor for the time being and see if that helps. Also, your monitor requires at least 48 fps for Freesync to work:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/technologies/freesync/monitors.html

FreeSync is enabled from the screen menu. Plus it is on the list you posted.

Originally posted by Xiaopang:
Just in case you're overlooking the option, this is how it looks like in Nvidia Control panel:

https://freeimage.host/i/2TSjGqP

That is right the option I'm missing. I do not know what I'm doing wrong ... one thing I've notice is that the Nvidia Control Panel tells "HDMI - HDTV" as type of connection, but shouldn't it be "DP - HDMI"?
Xiaopang Nov 11, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
I'm afraid it won't work for you. According to this KB article NVidia [nvidia.custhelp.com] supports Freesync either via DP 1.2a or HDMI 2.1.

I checked out the specs for your monitor and it only has HDMI 1.4 ports. Many people online complain that DP to HDMI conversion doesn't work with GSync. Apart from that, your video cable could also be a factor if its supported HDMI protocol version was too low, but as it stands, you need a new monitor if your heart is set on GSync/Freesync.

Since your graphics card offers HDMI 2.1, you could also try using an HDMI to HDMI connection, but since NVidia itself says that it requires version 2.1 for the feature that won't do much good either.

But as I explained above, just use VSync. Same result. Not worth buying a new monitor over unless you're looking to a get a new one anyway.
vese91 Nov 11, 2024 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Xiaopang:
I'm afraid it won't work for you. According to this KB article NVidia [nvidia.custhelp.com] supports Freesync either via DP 1.2a or HDMI 2.1.

I checked out the specs for your monitor and it only has HDMI 1.4 ports. Many people online complain that DP to HDMI conversion doesn't work with GSync. Apart from that, your video cable could also be a factor if its supported HDMI protocol version was too low, but as it stands, you need a new monitor if your heart is set on GSync/Freesync.

Yeah I just figure it out a few minutes ago. It is simply not compatible.

Originally posted by Xiaopang:
But as I explained above, just use VSync. Same result. Not worth buying a new monitor over unless you're looking to a get a new one anyway.

V-Sync has to be used to prevent screen tearing when the PC is capable enough to provide stable frame-rate at the chosen threshold, the latter depends on your screen of course. Only in this case, the result will be the same: if the frame-rate goes below the target (e.g., 60 fps) the game stutters.

G-Sync and Free-Sync are meant to prevent both screen tearing and game stuttering even when the frame-rate drops. They have been designed specifically to this purpose.

Adaptive-VSync does a similar job, but it is less effective since it is just a modified version of the regular VSync. I use it Silent Hill 2 Remake and it work fine, but G-Sync and Free-Sync could do better.
Xiaopang Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
I have yet to see VSync to cause stuttering, even if well below the display's refresh rate. Never experienced that in the last 25 years of using it, which is no wonder, because as Nvidia explains it, it's only a result of heavily fluctuating framerate:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200805153420/https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/adaptive-vsync/technology/

Not sure about you, but I can't remember ever having played a game where the framerate jumps around like that. SH2 is certainly not one of those, so GSync will at most just prevent screen tearing, not stuttering.

Originally posted by vese91:
G-Sync and Free-Sync are meant to prevent both screen tearing and game stuttering even when the frame-rate drops. They have been designed specifically to this purpose.

Adaptive-VSync does a similar job, but it is less effective since it is just a modified version of the regular VSync. I use it Silent Hill 2 Remake and it work fine, but G-Sync and Free-Sync could do better.

Adaptive VSync isn't less effective than GSync/Freesync, it IS GSync/Freesync: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/adaptive-vsync/

Wherever you took that info from, it's clearly wrong.
Last edited by Xiaopang; Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:21pm
Weird Potato Nov 11, 2024 @ 5:54pm 
The same way you do it in any other game. Vsync on in driver, VRR on in driver, Vsync off in game.
I Miss Her Nov 11, 2024 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by Xiaopang:
Originally posted by I Miss Her:

Holy moly..

Doesn't matter what your job is, the questions you asked and the things you've stated in this thread clearly show that you don't understand even the slightest about how even Vsync works or its drawbacks.

So you're asking me to teach you how Vsync works, and it's drawbacks. Then explain how Gsync works, then why & how it is better in every possible situation.

Really?

No, I asked you to explain your claim how Freesync "destroys VSync". Unlike you, I know perfectly well how both Freesync and VSync work. Don't act like you know stuff. Remember: by your own admission, you had to find information online how to even utilize Freesync, not even being able to discern good info from bad one. If your competence level is that low, you have no business telling anyone anything about this stuff.

I gave you a shot. All you came back with is word salad. If you want to convince me of your opinion (which I didn't ask for btw, but wth go for it), then you'll have to bring more than your meaningless nonsense. If you can't do that, then I'm not interested in you further derailing this thread. Op asked a question and all you did so far was trolling. If you can't bring anything to the table, then don't expect any more answers.

I'm not trolling I'm being helpful.

You on the other hand are talking out of your ass. You're exactly the kind of person I was talking about earlier.

Not only do you not understand what you're talking about but you're so far out of the loop you don't even realize how silly you sound with almost every comment, like a flat earther trying to sound smart it's comical.

Quick example:

"Adaptive VSync isn't less effective than GSync/Freesync, it IS GSync/Freesync"

That's what you wrote, right? You thought that out and even typed it.

This is what I mean, you're not even close. You don't understand Vsync or Adaptive Vsync never mind Gsync and that one comment proves it and I'm sure there are more in this thread that are equally as moronic.

You're the one trolling, you have to be because nobody is that dense.
Last edited by I Miss Her; Nov 11, 2024 @ 7:08pm
Xiaopang Nov 12, 2024 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by I Miss Her:
I'm not trolling I'm being helpful.

LOL point me to where you're actually contributing to the op's problem.

Originally posted by I Miss Her:

You on the other hand are talking out of your ass. You're exactly the kind of person I was talking about earlier.

Not only do you not understand what you're talking about but you're so far out of the loop you don't even realize how silly you sound with almost every comment, like a flat earther trying to sound smart it's comical.

Quick example:

"Adaptive VSync isn't less effective than GSync/Freesync, it IS GSync/Freesync"

That's what you wrote, right? You thought that out and even typed it.

This is what I mean, you're not even close. You don't understand Vsync or Adaptive Vsync never mind Gsync and that one comment proves it and I'm sure there are more in this thread that are equally as moronic.

LOL And where is your explanation as to why this supposedly is moronic? Don't mind the fact that I'm just quoting Nvidia and even providing a link as a source...

Originally posted by I Miss Her:
You're the one trolling, you have to be because nobody is that dense.

Naw, that's still you. You haven't said a single clever word in the entire thread. Nonsense is all that you produce. You claim a lot and prove nothing. You're the prime example for the Dunning-Kruger effect. Funny that you mention flat earthers. While they are dumb, they at least try to explain why they think the way they think. You can't even do that. You even fail at being a troll lol
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