frame gen issues and general fps problems

[Metr0Man]

I have an RTX 4070 oc 16gigs DDR4 ram a Ryzen 7 3800X and playing on a samsung model UN50DU6900FXZA. Frame gen creates these weird textures when i move around almost like a blur but its not even the UI messe up sometime where i will see double of a word. also my fps doesn't reach 60 even with frame gen. is the game just poorly optimized?

[Matariel]

Try this mod from nexus mods, SH2 Essentials - FPS Boost and Graphics Enhancer and download the second file or the third one. Im playing in 4k with a rtx 4060 and a i514400 and help gain 60 fps indoors.

https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthill2/mods/23?callback=in&code=OGYWMTY1NWETNTYZYI0ZYJY1LTLLMJGTZJY4MTEXYJZLYMYX&state=a3ea55b2614348578f088788a07dcd4b&tab=description

[AlisterCat]

The effect you're talking about is ghosting, and I noticed it having not played since they added frame generation. It is currently broken but there is a mod to fix it. You will need to download reshade and this mod, but just follow the instructions. It will completely eliminate this graphical error.

https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthill2/mods/145

[Metr0Man]

Originally posted by AlisterCat:

The effect you're talking about is ghosting, and I noticed it having not played since they added frame generation. It is currently broken but there is a mod to fix it. You will need to download reshade and this mod, but just follow the instructions. It will completely eliminate this graphical error.

https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthill2/mods/145

thank you all so much

[80TCS]

Originally posted by Heavy Purse:

I have an RTX 4070 oc 16gigs DDR4 ram a Ryzen 7 3800X and playing on a samsung model UN50DU6900FXZA. Frame gen creates these weird textures when i move around almost like a blur but its not even the UI messe up sometime where i will see double of a word. also my fps doesn't reach 60 even with frame gen. is the game just poorly optimized?

Why oh why do people insist on using all and every stupid tech fad there is.. is beyond me..
Just drop the "frame gen", it's a stutter mess and adds NO ACTUAL smoothness and adds input latency..

Just follow some optimization guides to get some decent settings, I'm easily getting over 60FPS on a 3070 with a 5800X3D with RT on, RT reflections on windows mod, RT reconstruction, etc.

[Weird Potato]

Originally posted by 80TCS:

Originally posted by Heavy Purse:

I have an RTX 4070 oc 16gigs DDR4 ram a Ryzen 7 3800X and playing on a samsung model UN50DU6900FXZA. Frame gen creates these weird textures when i move around almost like a blur but its not even the UI messe up sometime where i will see double of a word. also my fps doesn't reach 60 even with frame gen. is the game just poorly optimized?

Why oh why do people insist on using all and every stupid tech fad there is.. is beyond me..
Just drop the "frame gen", it's a stutter mess and adds NO ACTUAL smoothness and adds input latency..

Just follow some optimization guides to get some decent settings, I'm easily getting over 60FPS on a 3070 with a 5800X3D with RT on, RT reflections on windows mod, RT reconstruction, etc.

Nonsense. It has its uses, but it's not for reaching 60fps. It's for 60+fps. The input latency it adds wouldnt be distinguishable in a blind test. The thing is it doesn't improve latency. ie: if you used frame gen at 30fps to reach 60fps ( the incorrect way to use it but I digress), you would still have the input lag of 30fps not 60.
You sound angry and jealous. Its understandable because your 3070 can't do frame gen.
The only way you're getting 60+ fps with a 3070 with ray tracing on is at 1080p coz it sure aint at 4k.

[80TCS]

Originally posted by Weird Potato:

Originally posted by 80TCS:

Why oh why do people insist on using all and every stupid tech fad there is.. is beyond me..
Just drop the "frame gen", it's a stutter mess and adds NO ACTUAL smoothness and adds input latency..

Just follow some optimization guides to get some decent settings, I'm easily getting over 60FPS on a 3070 with a 5800X3D with RT on, RT reflections on windows mod, RT reconstruction, etc.

Nonsense. It has its uses, but it's not for reaching 60fps. It's for 60+fps. The input latency it adds wouldnt be distinguishable in a blind test. The thing is it doesn't improve latency. ie: if you used frame gen at 30fps to reach 60fps ( the incorrect way to use it but I digress), you would still have the input lag of 30fps not 60.
You sound angry and jealous. Its understandable because your 3070 can't do frame gen.
The only way you're getting 60+ fps with a 3070 with ray tracing on is at 1080p coz it sure aint at 4k.

Yes, 1080p, that is my monitor's native resolution.. I care much more about FPS than I care about resolution.. It's because resolution can't give you anything worth the money compared to the performance gain when you're talking about INTERACTIVE media.. I care about latency and common sense, not about the "bigger number better". What you gain in clarity at an arm's length away, you lose twice in performance.. and for what.. I can sit 1.5m away from my monitor using a controller and have the same exact clarity that you get at 50cm off your monitor..

Also, yes, frame gen only makes sense at higher FPS.. which.. DEFEATS ITS PURPOSE IN THE FIRST PLACE.. You're getting NO LATENCY IMPROVEMENT and NO ADDED SMOOTHNESS..

If you have a 4K Monitor that ALSO does High refresh.. 120Hz and up.. and need a GPU like a 4090 AND on top of that "NEED" to turn on frame gen.. well, that is HIGHLY INEFFICIENT..

Now if you want the bragging rights and have the money to burn and you want the bragging rights, well then just go ahead, knock yourself out.. But also arguing pro frame gen.. ? That's like.. Having a whole cellar for fine wines, but half of the bottles you fill with cheap beer just to have the bragging rights that your expensive fine wine cellar is full..

[Weird Potato]

lmao cope.

I'm loving 4k HDR gaming on OLED. And no, I don't " need" frame gen. in fact I never use it. I was just correcting misinfo. Enjoy your 1080p cope gaming though.

[80TCS]

Originally posted by Weird Potato:

lmao cope.

I'm loving 4k HDR gaming on OLED. And no, I don't " need" frame gen. in fact I never use it. I was just correcting misinfo. Enjoy your 1080p cope gaming though.

No cope here, I have never mentioned that I wouldn't like HDR for example.. Or OLED.
HDR.. IS a useful metric and enhancement to the image.. Still not as high on my list as performance, but definitely much higher than sheer resolution itself.
OLED is perfect to get those real blacks.. That would probably be even higher on my list than HDR.. But having to manage everything and getting the best results from a limited budget.. yeah, I'll 100% stick to my 360Hz 1080p IPS, thank you very much.

Would I want a 4090, yeah, sure.. Would I overpay for the gains tho.. Surely not.

Also, there is no "misinfo" about framegen in my initial reply. There are only facts.

[Weird Potato]

Well you totally blew it off as crap when its not. It's only crap when not used properly (60+fps). It s added quality bonus, not to REACH 60fps.

[80TCS]

Originally posted by Weird Potato:

Well you totally blew it off as crap when its not. It's only crap when not used properly (60+fps). It s added quality bonus, not to REACH 60fps.

It is though.. I've just said, it adds NOTHING to the perceived experience.. It does not improve LATENCY, which is the most important metric in an INTERACTIVE media and it does not add any PERCEIVED smoothness.. It only takes resources to display a bigger number in the corner of your screen AND introduce more artifacting.. THAT'S ALL framegen is..

Having a high enough FPS to not "need" frame gen, aka, "playable base FPS" renders frame gen USELESS.. It simply DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF ITS EXISTENCE in the first place.. It does not improve your latency, it does not add any smoothness and it is irrelevant when it has to work with base FPS that is not playable to begin with..

Arguing pro frame gen IS COPE..

[Weird Potato]

Huh?? It doesn't add "nothing" though. It LOOKS smoother. The fact it doesnt feel smoother has been addressed in this conversation, repeatedly for some reason, but if you think frame gen doesnt LOOK better you need your eyes checked.

Oh wait, you wouldnt know, your 3070 can't do frame gen.