How To Play Original on Modern PC

[mdesaleah]

https://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/

Reminder, you can play the original vision of the story, dialogue, and gameplay all on a modern PC.

video below contains story spoilers, so do avoid it if you're new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VKvED76WQ

(a "making of" video of the original game when it released by the devs who made it.)

[Nattmal]

Originally posted by ingi:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

I think he’s just having issues following instructions.

It’s really simple to put Enhanced Edition overall

Did YOU read the sentence I wrote to you correctly?

MY UNCLE TOLD ME CLEARLY AND CLEARLY THAT IT MAKES NO SENSE TO INSTALL OLDER SOFTWARE ON NEWER SYSTEMS:


THAT AGAIN ON A BIG BASIS? LETTERS SO THAT YOU MAY GET THE MEANING BEHIND THEM?

Also, what are you doing in an rmake forum when you've been annoying people here for about 2 months with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Silent Hill 2 enhanced version. This is about the original new game and not about a fan project. I think you're just on the wrong forum here. I felt that way. YOU have been talking badly about everything since 2022, ever since I saw the group here, and are annoying you in a penetrating way with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ enhanced version of silent hill 2. And you don't even react to people who tell you like me, now for the 100th time that it doesn't help. You just don't get into it. but you're totally crazy.

If you scroll up on the right corner there is a button it has written " unsubscribe from discussion ".
No one is engaging with you because of your toxic entitled behavior, you don't need to be here you, are the only one annoying HERE.

It's a small page about the old sh2 version for people that would like to experiment the old one it has the same right to exist as any other conversation, if you can't install it it's on you and only you.

Also for others info. Do not engage with this person, he wants to divert the conversation into chaos and make this discussion close.

Here got your 2 minutes of fame and dopamine.

[ingi]

Originally posted by Nattmal:

Originally posted by ingi:

Did YOU read the sentence I wrote to you correctly?

MY UNCLE TOLD ME CLEARLY AND CLEARLY THAT IT MAKES NO SENSE TO INSTALL OLDER SOFTWARE ON NEWER SYSTEMS:


THAT AGAIN ON A BIG BASIS? LETTERS SO THAT YOU MAY GET THE MEANING BEHIND THEM?

Also, what are you doing in an rmake forum when you've been annoying people here for about 2 months with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Silent Hill 2 enhanced version. This is about the original new game and not about a fan project. I think you're just on the wrong forum here. I felt that way. YOU have been talking badly about everything since 2022, ever since I saw the group here, and are annoying you in a penetrating way with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ enhanced version of silent hill 2. And you don't even react to people who tell you like me, now for the 100th time that it doesn't help. You just don't get into it. but you're totally crazy.

If you scroll up on the right corner there is a button it has written " unsubscribe from discussion ".
No one is engaging with you because of your toxic entitled behavior, you don't need to be here you, are the only one annoying HERE.

It's a small page about the old sh2 version for people that would like to experiment the old one it has the same right to exist as any other conversation, if you can't install it it's on you and only you.

Also for others info. Do not engage with this person, he wants to divert the conversation into chaos and make this discussion close.

Here got your 2 minutes of fame and dopamine.

Actually, what's wrong with you? Is your coat burning or what? I've never been annoyed here in the forum. I think you're doing too well, right?

[mdesaleah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaFfoLR5Yws

It took a bit, as all very detailed analysis often do, but this one is long as it needs to be, and describes really well why someone who's played the Original might not be interested in the remake.

You can obviously still enjoy the remake, but its good to not brush off other perspectives.

[Maximizer]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaFfoLR5Yws

It took a bit, as all very detailed analysis often do, but this one is long as it needs to be, and describes really well why someone who's played the Original might not be interested in the remake.

You can obviously still enjoy the remake, but its good to not brush off other perspectives.

Thanks for sharing. Shame, I didn't caught Vee's live stream about the remake - I heard he ripped it to shreds.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Maximizer:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaFfoLR5Yws

It took a bit, as all very detailed analysis often do, but this one is long as it needs to be, and describes really well why someone who's played the Original might not be interested in the remake.

You can obviously still enjoy the remake, but its good to not brush off other perspectives.

Thanks for sharing. Shame, I didn't caught Vee's live stream about the remake - I heard he ripped it to shreds.

Dont know who that is, but I guess that can happen too.

I'm more indifferent. I see it as an adaptation, and a more shallow one. Kind of a "this is SH2 summarized and filtered through a new lens that misses the point of a lot of the details that added up to make the original so known"

[Maximizer]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by Maximizer:

Thanks for sharing. Shame, I didn't caught Vee's live stream about the remake - I heard he ripped it to shreds.

Dont know who that is, but I guess that can happen too.

I'm more indifferent. I see it as an adaptation, and a more shallow one. Kind of a "this is SH2 summarized and filtered through a new lens that misses the point of a lot of the details that added up to make the original so known"

Add the RE dna on top, now poisoned Silent Hill forever. But where RE almost strikes a silver lining between action and horror, especially RE2 remake (although I don't like modern remakes, they're still commendable, well, except RE3 remake), this one fails to deliver. There's multitude reasons why, like a book can be written on that, but the most stodgily mundane which basically lies on game's surface, "begging" to be criticized, I guess, is the overstretching of the experience (as if more is always better), while overburdening it with unneeded documents, puzzles etc, taking away that main feature some games of old implemented so well - leaving the blank space between the lines for a player to fill them by himself by using his own mind and imagination. For example, the fog which carries another layer of meaning, serving as a symbol of fog in James' mind. such kind of interpretations. I noticed that approach around 2015, maybe slightly earlier, when almost every big game began to appear with a bunch of explanations via in-game documents or other means as if to cover every possible blank space, never allowing the player to invent something of his own. Maybe I didn't word myself clearly enough, but I hope you get what I mean.

[Damp_Surprise]

What?? ^

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Maximizer:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Dont know who that is, but I guess that can happen too.

I'm more indifferent. I see it as an adaptation, and a more shallow one. Kind of a "this is SH2 summarized and filtered through a new lens that misses the point of a lot of the details that added up to make the original so known"

Add the RE dna on top, now poisoned Silent Hill forever. But where RE almost strikes a silver lining between action and horror, especially RE2 remake (although I don't like modern remakes, they're still commendable, well, except RE3 remake), this one fails to deliver. There's multitude reasons why, like a book can be written on that, but the most stodgily mundane which basically lies on game's surface, "begging" to be criticized, I guess, is the overstretching of the experience (as if more is always better), while overburdening it with unneeded documents, puzzles etc, taking away that main feature some games of old implemented so well - leaving the blank space between the lines for a player to fill them by himself by using his own mind and imagination. For example, the fog which carries another layer of meaning, serving as a symbol of fog in James' mind. such kind of interpretations. I noticed that approach around 2015, maybe slightly earlier, when almost every big game began to appear with a bunch of explanations via in-game documents or other means as if to cover every possible blank space, never allowing the player to invent something of his own. Maybe I didn't word myself clearly enough, but I hope you get what I mean.

RE is its own thing. Good as well, but you're right that mixing RE with SH does not end well since they both go for very different things.

RE is the type of game to throw you in and either be a big setpiece game with a lot of combat and big monsters. Or they dump you in a big puzzle-box to solve over time and keep tabs on your resources and what you use them on. Story is not even close to the top of importance, but the characters are fun as big action stars.

SH 1-4 (originals) are really the opposite. The "puzzle-box" isn't really there, its more about solving individual riddles but those riddles are a lot more complex. Monster designs are really good, but they aren't just enemies to get rid off and have fun doing it or avoiding them (they are VERY story relevant instead). There is very little resource managing, or at least a lot less than most RE games, but the focus is MUCH strongly on the story and direction. Unless its the experimental SH4, but even then the resources there are handled with a different intent than a typical RE game.

SH2R is putting an RE/Homecoming filter over the Original SH2. And that throws a lot of people off who have experience actually playing through those SH 1-4 games. So I get what you mean there.

[Nezchrynliir]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

SH2R is putting an RE/Homecoming filter over the Original SH2. And that throws a lot of people off who have experience actually playing through those SH 1-4 games. So I get what you mean there.

I own Homecoming and that game is ok but it suffers a lot of issues, and the game runs like real garbage. This is a part of why the remake of SH2 does not appeal to me even after I tried it once to the end, I did not like Homecoming but it was the only older SH title on steam. They really need to at least launch the HD two pack even if their not the best renditions for people who would rather not download the fan graphics update patch. Also for the sake of video game preservation in libraries, even if your just paying for an overpriced rental.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by Nezchrynliir:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

SH2R is putting an RE/Homecoming filter over the Original SH2. And that throws a lot of people off who have experience actually playing through those SH 1-4 games. So I get what you mean there.

I own Homecoming and that game is ok but it suffers a lot of issues, and the game runs like real garbage. This is a part of why the remake of SH2 does not appeal to me even after I tried it once to the end, I did not like Homecoming but it was the only older SH title on steam. They really need to at least launch the HD two pack even if their not the best renditions for people who would rather not download the fan graphics update patch. Also for the sake of video game preservation in libraries, even if your just paying for an overpriced rental.

Disagree on the HD Collection part.

Nothing is better in comparison to having the only """preservation""" be two infamous beta builds that struggle to represent their original games.

2 and 3 in that collection are ruined. And its a shame that its technically the newest official version of them for those without a PC

[OneTime]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

https://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/

Reminder, you can play the original vision of the story, dialogue, and gameplay all on a modern PC.

video below contains story spoilers, so do avoid it if you're new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VKvED76WQ

(a "making of" video of the original game when it released by the devs who made it.)

You don't know how to get the original digital version? legally?

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by OneTime:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

https://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/

Reminder, you can play the original vision of the story, dialogue, and gameplay all on a modern PC.

video below contains story spoilers, so do avoid it if you're new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VKvED76WQ

(a "making of" video of the original game when it released by the devs who made it.)

You don't know how to get the original digital version? legally?

Digital?

I think the HD Collection is the only way of that, and even then its far from definitive. If you search all of its bugs, and voice acting issues, and crashes due to being a Beta build quickly rushed out and not fixed.

PS2 SH2 and SH3 were never sold digitally.

The Older PC port was never digital either. It was back when PC games were sold physically as the common method.

[OneTime]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by OneTime:

You don't know how to get the original digital version? legally?

Digital?

I think the HD Collection is the only way of that, and even then its far from definitive. If you search all of its bugs, and voice acting issues, and crashes due to being a Beta build quickly rushed out and not fixed.

PS2 SH2 and SH3 were never sold digitally.

The Older PC port was never digital either. It was back when PC games were sold physically as the common method.

Ok Thanks...

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by OneTime:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Digital?

I think the HD Collection is the only way of that, and even then its far from definitive. If you search all of its bugs, and voice acting issues, and crashes due to being a Beta build quickly rushed out and not fixed.

PS2 SH2 and SH3 were never sold digitally.

The Older PC port was never digital either. It was back when PC games were sold physically as the common method.

Ok Thanks...

Im sure fans recommend an easier way to find the old PC port (like Ebay lets say).

But that does require some outside searching on other forums.

But Konami doesnt exactly care for any of their series. They never did, and they definitely still don't. Good games are made inspite of Konami, not because of them. And the more you know about their history, the more that becomes clear.

[Bankruptcy]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by OneTime:

Ok Thanks...

Im sure fans recommend an easier way to find the old PC port.

But that does require some outside searching on other forums.

But Konami doesnt exactly care for any of their series. They never did, and they definitely still don't. Good games are made inspite of Konami, not because of them.

yeah its called having money and buying the original pc disc, or the other choice which is either myabandonware or the internet archive