SILENT HILL 2

SILENT HILL 2

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arewar May 30, 2024 @ 5:10pm
Maria's model changes hurt the narrative
https://imgur.com/a/VGmmLCc

Normally, I really don't care when changes like this are made in games to de-sexualize characters for modern times. I've never complained or even participated in discussions around it before, ever. I often even support them.

And by no means am I saying the new model looks bad. It's cute. But I am saying the choice made around her model are poorly thought out and detrimental.

Maria exists in this game because she is symbolic. She is a manifestation of James' sexual desires and the guilt around those desires. Those desires are symbolic in many ways throughout the entire game and that guilt is one of the things that make this game so impactful.

In my opinion, changing Maria like this is a thoughtless choice that negatively impacts the plot and narrative of the entire story.

It also makes me worried that the developers really didn't understand a lot of what has made SH2 one of the best and most popular horror games ever, and now I'm concerned that a lot of elements around these subtle underlying plotlines that make the game so powerful and important are going to be absent.
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☣Cenobite☣ May 30, 2024 @ 5:15pm 
I completely agree with you but I think in SH2, it was a little bit off the way Maria dressed in the cold foggy town. I think they can still make her act sexualized enough to invoke our thoughts on Maria Mary connection.
☣Cenobite☣ May 30, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
The way she modeled is beautiful enough, Mary always seem to be wearing more traditional clothes so I think we can, as players, can see the difference. Fingers crossed.
Necroth May 30, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Did you just link DbD's Maria model?
Sunsetter May 30, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Inb4 JuSt Go WaTch PorN AlReAdY!
arewar May 30, 2024 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by Necroth:
Did you just link DbD's Maria model?

I picked a random image off google that fully showed her normal outfit. I don't care where it's from. The clothing is accurate.
arewar May 30, 2024 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by ⚝ Cenobite ⚝:
I completely agree with you but I think in SH2, it was a little bit off the way Maria dressed in the cold foggy town. I think they can still make her act sexualized enough to invoke our thoughts on Maria Mary connection.

But that's kind of the point? She wasn't real iirc, she was a figment of James' imagination. So the fact that she was dressed inappropriate for the environment was one of the ways they communicated that symbolism.

Also, wasn't it implied she worked as a stripper in Heaven's Night club? So it's not really inappropriate given that background.
☣Cenobite☣ May 30, 2024 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by arewar:
Originally posted by Necroth:
Did you just link DbD's Maria model?

I picked a random image off google that fully showed her normal outfit. I don't care where it's from. The clothing is accurate.

Tho you should look for the PS2 Maria. Believe me, she looks much much more of a non curvy woman in OG SH2 than DBD.

But as I said, Im all for the beautiful recreation of the bodies. I just think its good enough now.
Necroth May 30, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
Either way, I feel that they modernized her clothing, and she still looks sexy. Nobody wears pink tiger-patterned skirts nowadays, and I think the pink leather jacket is sexier than the original plain jacket.
☣Cenobite☣ May 30, 2024 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by arewar:
Originally posted by ⚝ Cenobite ⚝:
I completely agree with you but I think in SH2, it was a little bit off the way Maria dressed in the cold foggy town. I think they can still make her act sexualized enough to invoke our thoughts on Maria Mary connection.

But that's kind of the point? She wasn't real iirc, she was a figment of James' imagination. So the fact that she was dressed inappropriate for the environment was one of the ways they communicated that symbolism.

Also, wasn't it implied she worked as a stripper in Heaven's Night club? So it's not really inappropriate given that background.

She is actually works there, right. But strippers dont go outside with half naked clothes after their show, they usually wear a similar jacket she wears in the trailer.

And I also think when she falls ill in the later parts, she will remove her jacket too.
TysonL May 30, 2024 @ 9:28pm 
dei
Kai May 30, 2024 @ 9:40pm 
The kind of things that makes me lose trust in a game al together. You know they changed some dialogues and interpretations too if they cant do a simple outfit, for these "mOdErnAudIencEs"
Last edited by Kai; May 30, 2024 @ 9:42pm
Guts May 30, 2024 @ 9:41pm 
What are you talking about? She's completely sexy, she has a beautiful body, a sensual roll, a beautiful ass. The black dress is even better, and E-girl's pink-dyed hair ends are a charm. I'm all wet. I think im James.
medion_no May 30, 2024 @ 9:42pm 
Looks BAD and hurts the original intent of the creators.
nwad May 30, 2024 @ 10:26pm 
This is just another bad, woke remake. Just skip it.
Stigma May 30, 2024 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by nwad:
This is just another bad, woke remake. Just skip it.
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Date Posted: May 30, 2024 @ 5:10pm
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